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Old 09-18-2008, 07:21 AM   #1
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IF McCain loses....

I know that all the staunch conservatives here are 100% certain he's going to win,

but indulge for a moment... IF he were to lose... Whom do you think would be the Republican nominee in 2012?


I have an idea who it might be but I'm interested in what everyone else thinks first.
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I know that all the staunch conservatives here are 100% certain he's going to win,

but indulge for a moment... IF he were to lose... Whom do you think would be the Republican nominee in 2012?


I have an idea who it might be but I'm interested in what everyone else thinks first.
no question about t .. it will be Sarah Palin
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Sarah Palin with Gov Christ as her VP.
I could see that. She'll have 6 years experience at that point. Crist is a good pick for a key battleground state
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They'd have to change the constitution. he's not a natural citizen
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They'd have to change the constitution. he's not a natural citizen
I think if they want him bad enough they will find a way to do just that.

Many say the notion is ridiculous and will never happen, I say it's possible.
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actually, i am going to run... i figure i know about as much as sarah palin.. i will fight for whoever can pay me the most money.. i will tell the people i am going to fuck them, but i will be upfront about how and when i fuck them..

i will abolish all taxes and run the country right into the ground. i will declare war and bomb any country that has a negative image of the US, but i will actually take all their assets after they are defeated.. venezuala would be first on my list, followed by iran, and saudi arabia..

the way i see it, why waste time fucking up the US... lets go full speed to the bottom..

once we are at rock bottom, there is no where to go but up...

so, who's going to be the first to donate to my campaign....
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I think if they want him bad enough they will find a way to do just that.

Many say the notion is ridiculous and will never happen, I say it's possible.
I don't think it ridiculous. Just difficult. basically take a 2/3 vote by Congress and Senate. You can do it in the states but that is difficult too. The problem I see is Republicans don't even have a majority and nowhere near 2/3. It would be pretty transparent what they were up to. Can't imagine enough Dems going along with it to get a 2/3 majority.
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"John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[6] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[7] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[8] However, the question as to whether or not he is a citizen from birth cannot be answered by this law because (1) it took effect after his birth and (2) it does not state that the person's citizenship was acquired at birth, only that they are a citizen by means of the law's establishment (and, hence, at the time the law takes effect). Indeed, the law in 1936 stated that all persons born to two US citizen parents outside the "limits and jurisdictions of the United States" are citizens at birth, but the problem is that the Panama Canal Zone was explicitly excluded. (8 U.S.C. 173 (1925): "The term 'United States' shall be construed to mean the United States, and any waters, territory, or other place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, except the Isthmian Canal Zone.") The status of Mr. McCain's citizenship at birth nonetheless remains unsettled.[9]"

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Dont worry, when mccain wins this board wont be around for any i told you so's.
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"John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[6] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[7] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[8] However, the question as to whether or not he is a citizen from birth cannot be answered by this law because (1) it took effect after his birth and (2) it does not state that the person's citizenship was acquired at birth, only that they are a citizen by means of the law's establishment (and, hence, at the time the law takes effect). Indeed, the law in 1936 stated that all persons born to two US citizen parents outside the "limits and jurisdictions of the United States" are citizens at birth, but the problem is that the Panama Canal Zone was explicitly excluded. (8 U.S.C. 173 (1925): "The term 'United States' shall be construed to mean the United States, and any waters, territory, or other place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, except the Isthmian Canal Zone.") The status of Mr. McCain's citizenship at birth nonetheless remains unsettled.[9]"

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yeah I've read that before. There's no doubt about Arnold though. he has a funny accent.
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You really should have been around in 2004. It was cute then, you just look like a Loon now though.
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Palin will never be the Republican nominee for president.

If McCain loses, her star is going to flame out when she has been vetted by the press and public.

If McCain wins, she will be forced to resign as VP (ie Agnew) due to the allegations currently facing her in Alaska which will lead to criminal charges.

The person McCain picks to replace Palin will become the second president (Ford) to assume office without being elected when McCain dies of natural causes before his term is complete. That person (probably Tom Ridge) will be the Republican nominee in 2012.
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Sarah Palin's 15mins is up..her poll numbers are free falling

As for 2012.If Obama wins he'll be a 2-term president so it won't matter who runs
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Palin will never be the Republican nominee for president.

If McCain loses, her star is going to flame out when she has been vetted by the press and public.

If McCain wins, she will be forced to resign as VP (ie Agnew) due to the allegations currently facing her in Alaska which will lead to criminal charges.

The person McCain picks to replace Palin will become the second president (Ford) to assume office without being elected when McCain dies of natural causes before his term is complete. That person (probably Tom Ridge) will be the Republican nominee in 2012.
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LOL. As if i wasnt around in 04. You know nothing about current events in our industry? Do you know who is in court right now getting net neutrality struck down? Keep wearing your blinders. But i guess your right in the fact that Playboy will be able to pay enough to keep this board up if they choose but I can tell you your proggie will be one of the first to go with teen in the name. tool.
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LOL. As if i wasnt around in 04. You know nothing about current events in our industry? Do you know who is in court right now getting net neutrality struck down? Keep wearing your blinders. But i guess your right in the fact that Playboy will be able to pay enough to keep this board up if they choose but I can tell you your proggie will be one of the first to go with teen in the name. tool.
You're so slow you might actually quality for goverment dissability.

Let me lay out my five point plan for exposing your stupidity.

1) I've said it before, I'll say it again. I don't own Teen Cash.
2) I'm Canadian. US Laws and regulations aren't the same for me as they are for you. 2257 who???
3) We heard crying and whining that Bush would destroy Adult from 2000-2004. We're still here.
4) The terror and panic reached an all time high when we HAD to get John Kerry elected, or face extinction. We're still here.
5) Just curious, is not even on the ballot and no hope in hell almost a win for Ron Paul or does that kind of math only work in primaries?
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Even if McCain wins he's there will be anew GOP nominee in 2012. McCain is only serving 1 term. Palin aint getting shit. Romney and Huckabee will for sure run again. Crist might make a run. Jeb Bush? I doubt it. Unless the GOP is stupid enough to think America is ready for more Bushes.
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Most American's can't even understand his accent. Never going to happen.
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Let me lay out my five point plan for exposing your stupidity.

1) I've said it before, I'll say it again. I don't own Teen Cash.
2) I'm Canadian. US Laws and regulations aren't the same for me as they are for you. 2257 who???
3) We heard crying and whining that Bush would destroy Adult from 2000-2004. We're still here.
4) The terror and panic reached an all time high when we HAD to get John Kerry elected, or face extinction. We're still here.
5) Just curious, is not even on the ballot and no hope in hell almost a win for Ron Paul or does that kind of math only work in primaries?
I hear ya..We all know Bush didnt follow through with many of his promises to the evangelicals...you are crazy if you dont understand the Mccain who still wants to ban MMA (watch sportscenter) and Palin who wanted to ban books are not the nearly as socially liberal as Bush.

You are also crazy if you dont think porn banned at the ISP level wont fuck with Canada. LOL.
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Depends on how good / bad Obama does...if he turns out to be a great President they'll throw anyone into the race.

If Obama sucks, which could be the case (I wonder if Hillary would try to get the nomination no matter what in 2012), I can see them going with Mitt Romney Or Rudy Giuliani. Rudy Giuliani's hatchet job of the Dems at the RNC definitely gave him some brownie points for a future run.

I think Palin will be a non-factor if she doesn't win now with McCain...her star status will fade fast.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:18 AM   #42
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palin is even worse than mccain with her god gibberish, shes even worse than bush... if mccain and palin win this election the us and the rest of the world is fucked.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:25 AM   #43
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:31 AM   #44
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"John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[6] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[7] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born ? albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[8] However, the question as to whether or not he is a citizen from birth cannot be answered by this law because (1) it took effect after his birth and (2) it does not state that the person's citizenship was acquired at birth, only that they are a citizen by means of the law's establishment (and, hence, at the time the law takes effect). Indeed, the law in 1936 stated that all persons born to two US citizen parents outside the "limits and jurisdictions of the United States" are citizens at birth, but the problem is that the Panama Canal Zone was explicitly excluded. (8 U.S.C. 173 (1925): "The term 'United States' shall be construed to mean the United States, and any waters, territory, or other place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, except the Isthmian Canal Zone.") The status of Mr. McCain's citizenship at birth nonetheless remains unsettled.[9]"

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that's bs.. children born of soldiers are considered citizens
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:09 PM   #49
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