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Old 09-21-2008, 06:20 AM   #1
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If American taxpayers are being forced to pay for a 1 TRILLION dollar bailout .......

for fuck's sake sheep stand up and demand that of that TRILLION dollars your governmnt commits to spend at least ONE MEASLY BILLION dollars for full scale forensic investigations and IRS audits of every single last stock holder, director, management, employees of the corrupt companies you've been forced to bail out.

it's absolutely sickening to know that there are thousands of these white collar criminals who have walked off with millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions and some billions in this con game.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:34 AM   #2
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:38 AM   #3
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youre a moron
what are "IRS audits of every single last stock holder" going to proof/ show / reveal?
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:43 AM   #4
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youre a moron
what are "IRS audits of every single last stock holder" going to proof/ show / reveal?
yes i'm a moron - the point of IRS audits is that when the government wants to go after anybody it's much easier to get somebody shady on their taxes than anything else

the point here is to put those who made out like thieves in this debacle and those that will do it again on notice that one way or another that justice will be served

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In all honesty, it's much easier to strongarm people who don't have the money to fight it. Hell, Ken Lay even figured a way out - he died.

We can only hope the same for similar.
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for fuck's sake sheep stand up and demand that of that TRILLION dollars your governmnt commits to spend at least ONE MEASLY BILLION dollars for full scale forensic investigations and IRS audits of every single last stock holder, director, management, employees of the corrupt companies you've been forced to bail out.

it's absolutely sickening to know that there are thousands of these white collar criminals who have walked off with millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions and some billions in this con game.
Your title is a little incorrect as they have asked to be able to borrow up to $ 11 Trillion

So Mutt, how high do you think this will go before they stop giving up the money???

God Daaaaaaaaamn
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:09 AM   #7
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD....next give me a nice draft and a couple more wars and I will be able to say I TOLD U SO for the next decade.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:14 AM   #8
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Socialism is bad right comrades?
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Told you capitalism dosent work.
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Told you capitalism dosent work.
I dont see where capitalism is? Im guessing you think this is what the free market looks like too
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I dont see where capitalism is?


This is what happens when you have no regulation.

Capitalism is dead.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:31 AM   #12
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there is not really too much too expose . . laws have many loopholes . . ; big companies use them .. they got it trown back in to their faces!


I like it .. hope AIG now has to SELL Manchester United . .. to some Arab Prince


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But we're not being forced to pay for a 1 trillion dollar bailout.

The Chinese are going to pay for it and then my kids and grandkids are going to have to pay them back + interest.

Get your facts straight mang.
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This is what happens when you have no regulation.

Capitalism is dead.
No regulation? Thats funny. WTF do you think the FED is? They are the regulators who have over regulated the market manipulating with false interest rates that are not in line with the market.
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No regulation? Thats funny. WTF do you think the FED is? They are the regulators who have over regulated the market manipulating with false interest rates that are not in line with the market.
Few years ago everyone was complaining about red tape and that there needs to be less regulation. Look what has happened now, there needs to be MORE regulation, not less.

This is proof capitalism dosent work
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:41 AM   #16
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btw read this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven..._b_127016.html
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for fuck's sake sheep stand up and demand that of that TRILLION dollars your governmnt commits to spend at least ONE MEASLY BILLION dollars for full scale forensic investigations and IRS audits of every single last stock holder, director, management, employees of the corrupt companies you've been forced to bail out.

it's absolutely sickening to know that there are thousands of these white collar criminals who have walked off with millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions and some billions in this con game.
The stock owners didn't get bailed out.. they got fucked over. Not only did they lose their money, they now also get to pay for the bail out right beside you.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:44 AM   #18
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greed is a serious problem within the capitalistic system
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Few years ago everyone was complaining about red tape and that there needs to be less regulation. Look what has happened now, there needs to be MORE regulation, not less.

This is proof capitalism dosent work
There has been more regulation than ever. This is NOT capitalism.
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Are you seriously trying to tell me the USA is not capitalist?

They nationalize the losses and privatize the earnings so you all get fucked over.

WAKE UP
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The stock owners didn't get bailed out.. they got fucked over. Not only did they lose their money, they now also get to pay for the bail out right beside you.


AIG is the world largest insurance company . . them going bankrupt without be the beginning of the end .. .


.GOV had to do SOMEthing . .and they did . . .
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fucked over ? ? how ? please elaboratE .. . AIG going bankrupt would have been a better deal +?
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.GOV had to do SOMEthing . .
How about learning something about economics and writing/changing policies so their freinds can get rich why USA slowly dies. That would be something.
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No regulation? Thats funny. WTF do you think the FED is? They are the regulators who have over regulated the market manipulating with false interest rates that are not in line with the market.
Your argument doesn't pass the smell test.

Sorry.

This unfortunately, just like in the 1930's, is a case of the government having to save capitalism from itself.

Adam Smith is dead, Karl Marx is dead, long live Keynes.
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Are you seriously trying to tell me the USA is not capitalist?

They nationalize the losses and privatize the earnings so you all get fucked over.

WAKE UP
apparently you dont understand capitalism because you just proved how this is not capitalism.
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How about learning something about economics and writing/changing policies so their freinds can get rich why USA slowly dies. That would be something.


if no one has money who be buying your products ?? cause I sell things .. I be rich man . .I be having many companies . .but no one has money to buy my stuff ? ? ?

that make no sense to me . .
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Your argument doesn't pass the smell test.

Sorry.

This unfortunately, just like in the 1930's, is a case of the government having to save capitalism from itself.

Adam Smith is dead, Karl Marx is dead, long live Keynes.
Yup just like the 30s when the FED ADMITS to fucking with the market and causing the great depression Thanks for proving my point.
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Yup just like the 30s when the FED ADMITS to fucking with the market and causing the great depression Thanks for proving my point.
You believe the federal reserve caused the great depression?

Ummmm ok....I am officially not reading or responding to anything you post in these threads anymore.

It would be the equivalent of arguing with someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job or that the CIA killed Kennedy....my time would be better spent sticking sharp objects into my retina.

kthxbai
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You believe the federal reserve caused the great depression?

Ummmm ok....I am officially not reading or responding to anything you post in these threads anymore.

It would be the equivalent of arguing with someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job or that the CIA killed Kennedy....my time would be better spent sticking sharp objects into my retina.

kthxbai
ummmm ok Big Ben said it himself.

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ummmm ok Big Ben said it himself.

forgot the link
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exactly. i remember Lenny2 is a big fan of Greenspan who helped a lot to estabilish current mess

but actually, if regulators were doing their thing and politicians werent corrupt, we wouldnt get into this situation.
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i saw this on CNN , i think US government must check the contract seriously before it's to late.. 2 last giant investor bank convert to retail banks... oh my....
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So True! Yes, it is bad. What ever happened to capitalism? We force it to everyone around the world.
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there is not really too much too expose . . laws have many loopholes . . ; big companies use them .. they got it trown back in to their faces!


I like it .. hope AIG now has to SELL Manchester United . .. to some Arab Prince


lolz!
AIG has a 4 year shirt deal with Manchester United. Malcolm Irving Glazer holds controlling stakes in the club, not AIG.
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back in the day investing in the stock market was just a little more safe than going to the race track and usually blow all your hard earned money, and thats how it should be..
now they put in a little government oversight and some rules, it becomes "corporate" and all of a sudden, gambling is now called "investing in the market" and people are recommended to put their retirement funds into such "investments"...
dont get fooled..
Think about it once. The corporate structure is build so that the owners are personally protected, it is called the "corporate shield", personal money/assets are safe even if the corporate company you own 100% goes into the toilet...
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keynesian economic theories have been exposed as invalid for the most part. assumptions such as full employment simply do not exist in the real world. instant price adjustments, etc. have all proven to not be realistic.
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