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Anthony · 11-03-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

I mean seriously get real im here talking about legit sites with real content that have real concerns (I spend over 30k a week in updates and been doing so for many years) and you are bringing your BS tours here that tell a surfer its free and bill him 90 bucks I mean come on, and figuring out ways to make sites work better means im not successful?

So you come here yelling how we would all be shocked on the numbers you do blah blah blah and you pay 75 pps.

If you would take the time to read what was written rather then jumping and repeating the word hard drive over and over again as if thats what this thread is all about maybe you would learn something and youd be able to run a legit site and invest real money in content and get a few signups here and there (and be able to use good well respected billers).

Struck a nerve with you, did I? You just made more excuses why your sales suck.

My sales aren't legit, my biller isn't legit, I don't make real money, I don't invest real money, I use cross sales, all I say is Hard Drives, I trick the surfer with free memberships, can you use any more excuses? Your reading comprehension is atrocious, it's tantamount to selective reading. It's no wonder why some of the bigger program owners don't post here anymore. Instead of working your business, you have idiots who scream at their loudest why theirs suck.

BVF · 11-03-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

(I spend over 30k a week in updates and been doing so for many years)

I've been spending 50-100 a week on updates and been doing so for many years...

cherrylula · 11-03-2008, 06:35 AM

great thread.

BV · 11-03-2008, 09:16 AM

this thread got all fucked up

just like our industry

FlexxAeon · 11-03-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

this thread got all fucked up

just like our industry

i was gonna say that, but didnt feel lik ei had the 'juice' to do so

lets get back to biz/brainstorming people. this thread has already cost me 3-4 URL's i need ideas for more

natas · 11-03-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

I've been spending 50-100 a week on updates and been doing so for many years...

testpie · 11-03-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

where they going to get that on a tube site ?

From you after you've finished paying to make it.

Nautilus · 11-03-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by testpie

From you after you've finished paying to make it.

So true.

Cherry7 · 11-03-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by testpie

From you after you've finished paying to make it.

Not at the quality we are going to supply it at....

There are some that don't care what it looks like, 10 year old porn ripped from a DVD on to flash...
And a lot who have no choice, the 90% with no CC.

But there are plenty of customers who are prepared to pay for quality and something different may I dare say creative?

This is a problem across all media, try making a political documentary, see who pay to watch that... Advertising falling on TV etc

The erotic is having it easy, it is the easest piece of culture to sell if it has sex in it.

Some race to the bottom more and more channels made for less and less money...but then HBO will make less but better...

Also a little confession I don't like porn. I mean I don't think its wrong, but its just boring...
I reckon there is percentage who like it because its "dirty" and forbidden ...hence the arms race to be more shocking, anal douple penitration etc...

But thats not in the end what is about...to the person who doesn't think sex is bad , whose dad didn't wack him when he was wackin, so to speak.. porn doesn't offer much..

I think there is a whole new audience out there of inteligent men women and couples who want something a bit more classy to spice up their lives ...

Something the wife can put on to wake up pops after a hard day at work...

Without censorship and with independent income even the modest amounts we are making at the moment we are having a lot of fun making films that no one else thinks of making, like a short film based on Guy de Maupassant story...

Peter Romero · 11-03-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Not at the quality we are going to supply it at....

...hence the arms race to be more shocking, anal douple penitration etc...

Douple penetration? What's that? Suction cups on nipples pokin yer eyes out?

kahell · 11-03-2008, 06:54 PM

now we are really talking porn biz in this tread

BV · 11-03-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

have you checked message boards recently? tons and tons of sites where people talk about user and passes and people asking for PM's to trade stuff, I run a ppv site if brute force and shit was the case id be in serious trouble as people would be using up others peoples minutes or getting new minutes etc

Tons of people trade or give out their info to others like its ok to do

password boards? not in the last few months specifically on purpose, i don't feel the need.

proxypass takes care of that part for me

all of my members that have had their password killed has had an easy password or is one of those people that uses the same password on everything

once i generate them a new "harder" password they are good to go and do not have any further problems

most of them are very agitated and concerned at first because when they get blocked on my site they get a special warning page explaining what happened and why they are blocked

once i explain to them what happened they understand

cheers,
bv

MandyBlake · 11-03-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

So then how do you explain all those diamonds that Mandy Blake was wearing at The Atlanta Forum? "chuggin along" ??? Mandy is the prettiest BBW on the web. Don't poormouth us Tony. I know you have a small fortune stashed away.

all what diamonds???? i have one ring...not nearly enough! lol
thank you robbie!

BV · 11-03-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm also pretty sure I know what I"m doing, as I"ve been running a 75PPS promo for the last 3 months, you don't do that if you don't know how to "tweak" your sites for conversions.

I've bought nothing but off the shelf content, and as one friend from an established program told me, I hit numbers that took them 3 years to get too. blah blah blah.....

Anthony,

In my book you are part of the problem.
How much tweaking does it take to bury some pre checked cross sales underneath your submit button in tiny 8pt text?

You are not about retention and keeping a customer and making him happy.

You just want to pop them hard make your money and cross sell or upsell them somewhere else.

Yah a great way to make money and pay out $75.00 per sale. (at the expense of jading a customer for life)

Answer this: If I sent you 100 sales and they all my sales unchecked the cross sales, are you going to still pay me 75 bucks a pop?

hell no......

What now?

testpie · 11-04-2008, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Not at the quality we are going to supply it at....

I don't quite get your argument here.

If you mean that the video/audio quality is going to be so high that the file size is going to prohibit a tube owner from being able to feasibly download and rip it, then surely your members would have similar problems and would either complain or go elsewhere.

If you mean that the content is unique enough to attract surfers away from most other sites, and give you a competitive edge, then surely it's in the interest of a major tube owner to signup for a month, rip your content, upload it to their site, cancel the membership and begin to rake in traffic to their site using your content - hence removing your unique selling point?

Cherry7 · 11-04-2008, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie

I don't quite get your argument here.

If you mean that the video/audio quality is going to be so high that the file size is going to prohibit a tube owner from being able to feasibly download and rip it, then surely your members would have similar problems and would either complain or go elsewhere.

If you mean that the content is unique enough to attract surfers away from most other sites, and give you a competitive edge, then surely it's in the interest of a major tube owner to signup for a month, rip your content, upload it to their site, cancel the membership and begin to rake in traffic to their site using your content - hence removing your unique selling point?

We are supplying our films at the highest bitrate we can and stereo sound, and soon as DVD images, the quality I have seen on the free sites has been very poor. Our films can be almost a gig in size.

You may be right and the stealing of our films becomes a problem, then we will take measures to protect our new productions.

EscortBiz · 11-04-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Struck a nerve with you, did I? You just made more excuses why your sales suck.

My sales aren't legit, my biller isn't legit, I don't make real money, I don't invest real money, I use cross sales, all I say is Hard Drives, I trick the surfer with free memberships, can you use any more excuses? Your reading comprehension is atrocious, it's tantamount to selective reading. It's no wonder why some of the bigger program owners don't post here anymore. Instead of working your business, you have idiots who scream at their loudest why theirs suck.

again you are a scammer plain and simple, you started a few months ago and its obvious you have no clue or care about long term business, you have one concern how can I rob the surfer to pay the affiliate.

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