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woj · 11-07-2008, 06:43 PM

100 dramas...

xsabn · 11-07-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

- Popunders are only displayed for certain countries
- Popunders DO NOT appear for any visitor that comes through an affiliate link
- Popunders DO NOT appear for any visitor carrying an affiliate cookie

I think the country of a visitor is not a reason to do such things. I had sales on AWE from countries i never heard. If you want to be right with your affiliates, and you don't like "certain countries" then give use the option to send this traffic on other places.

I mention AWE is one of the sponsors i really like, despite the 14 days stuff or what other say. But the last marketing AWE is promoting makes me contemplate more ..

br4sco · 11-07-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Dear Affiliates,

I was notified about the concerns/questions you had in regards to the popunders displayed on LiveJasmin.

We understand how valuable your traffic is to you, most of you have been with AWE for a long time and have come to trust, respect and profit off of the way we do business.
Naturally, as in the case of any business, it is nearly impossible to please everyone and we respect and accept the fact that not everyone is interested in working with us.

However, I urge those in doubt to go straight to the source by contacting us and getting relevant answers to your questions.

Our business did not get to where it is today by short-sighted thinking.
If we were in this business for the quick buck we would operate by different values and standards.

I personally commend those who refrain from coming to premature conclusions before getting specific, adequate information about an issue.

Having just returned from a business trip allow me to briefly clarify the methodology by which popunders are currently (and have been) displayed for end users.

- Popunders are only displayed for certain countries
- Popunders DO NOT appear for any visitor that comes through an affiliate link
- Popunders DO NOT appear for any visitor carrying an affiliate cookie

We also respect our end users' need for a pleasant online experience, therefore popunders are only displayed periodically.

Feel free to contact any of our team members directly with any further questions and/or concerns.
In addition, I will check this thread tomorrow.

should have told all the webmasters this before you decided to do it IMO

SmokeyTheBear · 11-07-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

should have told all the webmasters this before you decided to do it IMO

informed webmasters they werent adding popunders to your links ?

or that they were putting popunders on their own traffic

SmokeyTheBear · 11-07-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xsabn

I think the country of a visitor is not a reason to do such things. I had sales on AWE from countries i never heard. If you want to be right with your affiliates, and you don't like "certain countries" then give use the option to send this traffic on other places. ..

how would that help you , they dont have popups on your traffic period.. the popunders are on their own traffic for visitors that DON'T have a cookie set . i.e. they found the site without following anyones link.

dropped9 · 11-07-2008, 08:07 PM

drama time?

See siggy for your MSD Pop up ads!

MoreMagic · 11-07-2008, 10:34 PM

Since when does AWE has there own traffic? From those view failed tgp they had? Every hit that comes to there domains came 1st line from there affiliates.

Now there was still a possibility by a affiliate to turn a visitor into a member (for example by a great review for Livejasmin on your blog) a user is already cookied by there visitor scraper site livesex.

You cant else conclude that they made this to fuck there affiliates over, why would they else do it?

But don't forget 1 thing, every hit, every type in or search at the SE are there because of your affilates, NOT becouse traffic comes falling out of the sky.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

how would that help you , they dont have popups on your traffic period.. the popunders are on their own traffic for visitors that DON'T have a cookie set . i.e. they found the site without following anyones link.

MoreMagic · 11-08-2008, 02:57 AM

up up up for a decent not marketing standard answer.

LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 03:07 AM

lol what a pathetical explanation.And about that fucking 40 min long movies from that shitty tube site ?
This is a fucking unrespect for all AWE webmasters.

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

informed webmasters they werent adding popunders to your links ?

or that they were putting popunders on their own traffic

you need to pop the cock from your mouth

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Since when does AWE has there own traffic? From those view failed tgp they had? Every hit that comes to there domains came 1st line from there affiliates.

Now there was still a possibility by a affiliate to turn a visitor into a member (for example by a great review for Livejasmin on your blog) a user is already cookied by there visitor scraper site livesex.

You cant else conclude that they made this to fuck there affiliates over, why would they else do it?

But don't forget 1 thing, every hit, every type in or search at the SE are there because of your affilates, NOT becouse traffic comes falling out of the sky.

very well put

xsabn · 11-08-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

But don't forget 1 thing, every hit, every type in or search at the SE are there because of your affilates, NOT becouse traffic comes falling out of the sky.

Well said

LatinCams · 11-08-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

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LatinCams · 11-08-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

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dav3 · 11-08-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinCams

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LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinCams

Try us. - 1 year cookies - 20 - 25% lifetime revshare - No Tubesites - No scaming of ur visitors - converts 1:44

In this moment you have only 2 models online

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br4sco · 11-08-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

how would that help you , they dont have popups on your traffic period.. the popunders are on their own traffic for visitors that DON'T have a cookie set . i.e. they found the site without following anyones link.

Hey dumb ass the cookie's are cleared every 14 days. Are you retarded or something ? Is that so hard to understand ?

LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

hey dumb ass the cookie's are cleared every 14 days. Are you retarded or something ? Is that so hard to understand ?

lol

bump for more!!!!!

GirlsOnYou · 11-08-2008, 10:09 AM

There are an hour long videos like the popular "Virtual Sex with Jesse Jane" at http://community.livesex.com/free/video/4443.html too, another tube with stolen content hiding behind dmca.

I think that AWE is free to do those popunders at their site to surfers without an affiliate link and without a cookie, but lol I don't get why they want to hurt their own business with that tube site. A couple of text ads to cams sites in a tube site like that are going to convert a very low percentage of users.

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SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

you need to pop the cock from your mouth

you need to watch what you say and whom you say it to.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

Hey dumb ass the cookie's are cleared every 14 days. Are you retarded or something ? Is that so hard to understand ?

everyone seems to understand it but you.. who gets the referall if surfer has no cookie and goes to livejasmin. ? it wasnt you before and it isnt you now and it isn't that way with ANY revshare sponsor. what part of that are you not getting ?

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 10:22 AM

for all the little cockgobblers whining, GO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO PROMOTE

Kudles · 11-08-2008, 11:29 AM

Thats weird

LatinCams · 11-08-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveSandra

In this moment you have only 2 models online

.If you bring at least ten models online in every moment at day , i will create 4 performer accounts for 4 of my models as well.

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LatinCams · 11-08-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dav3

Sorry there are no models available at the moment. Our models would be more than happy to please you a little bit later.

Read my post on top

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br4sco · 11-08-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

everyone seems to understand it but you.. who gets the referall if surfer has no cookie and goes to livejasmin. ? it wasnt you before and it isnt you now and it isn't that way with ANY revshare sponsor. what part of that are you not getting ?

i see plenty of adult sponsers with ref codes to sites with popups and shit like this, but they give you a choice to advertise that for more money or not to advertise sites like that for less money. they didnt post this anywhere, and just did it. I dont EVER promote sponsers with popups or popunders or any other kind of pop.

point of the matter is, i send them MY traffic and if the 14 days expire and they decide just to type in livejas domain name and get hit by one of these popups and get cookie'd under awe's tubesite for the PPS i lose my person after that EVEN if he comes back to my site. I think thats what everybody is trying to explain to you and you seem to be the only one that doesnt get it.

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you need to watch what you say and whom you say it to.

sorry if my words are making you upset where ever your at, but with responses like your's im sure your used to it by now

or maybe not

LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 02:14 PM

BUMP BUMP

Enoy it:

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

i see plenty of adult sponsers with ref codes to sites with popups and shit like this, but they give you a choice to advertise that for more money or not to advertise sites like that for less money. they didnt post this anywhere, and just did it. I dont EVER promote sponsers with popups or popunders or any other kind of pop.

i dont think you quite get it, there are no popups on YOUR links , they are on NO cookie links i.e. no ref code typeins basically to the main page

You wouldnt have got a cut anyways the ONLY difference is if one of your customers whom you referred came back to live jasmin a month later lets say signed up under awe , after another 14 days if they somehow managed to find it back to your site without an awe cookie, you missed out on a signup , thats a huge freakin leap ...

If i were awe i would do away with the whole 14 day cookie shit , and go with straight revshare but hey i'm not awe and i dont have the most succesfull cam business on the net, maybe theres a reason.

if i were awe i would send over callgirls to give you bj's as you check your stats but hey i don't make the rules.

most big sponsors cut you out for main page traffic because thats not where your links go to.

heres what a nastydollars site looks like with YOUR ref code looks like if you go to the main page

www.tunaparty.com/?id=br4sco

wow look at that they swap out the ref code for their own ref code on almost every link, highway robbery , links dont go to that url its their traffic

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

sorry if my words are making you upset where ever your at, but with responses like your's im sure your used to it by now

or maybe not

i never get upset i have kids

. Just giving you a heads up to watch your mouth.

dav3 · 11-08-2008, 03:26 PM

stop or my epeen will shoot!!!

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think you quite get it, there are no popups on YOUR links , they are on NO cookie links i.e. no ref code typeins basically to the main page

well like i said before, i dont promote any sponsers that do popups to any other site other then the one i am sending my traffic to, its that simple! They do that for reason and i think most people who are reading this understand the reason .

If they did rev share for life then all the big webmasters with tons of traffic would gain the most and have all the buyers locked in. Im sure the reason AWE is number 1 in cams is for the reason they have the 14 day cookie and their webmaster tools. It gives smaller webmasters a chance to make good websites that retain good traffic and make them sales.

Your acting like your on the AWE payroll or something

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i never get upset i have kids

. Just giving you a heads up to watch your mouth.

look man im sorry if i offended you to the point where your on the edge of your chair about to pull out your hair or something. If the whole thing of me watching my mouth is a threat then please by all means, go ahead and post what you would do to me? Bot Net? Come to florida? lol Ive heard it all before and been through alot when it comes to a bot net.

Were you the guy on ICQ asking which websites were mine? haha

If thats the case go ahead and login to IRC packet away

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

stop or my epeen will shoot!!!

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by br4sco

Were you the guy on ICQ asking which websites were mine? haha

nope i wouldnt need to donald, you are with awe

br4sco · 11-08-2008, 05:49 PM

John Marco · 11-08-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Lol i suppose you don't know about the tricks they do/did.

our tricks are to have the best conversions, the most fair payouts, and the best promo tools by far in our new affiliate program

http://www.webcams.com/affiliate/

LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John Marco

our tricks are to have the best conversions, the most fair payouts, and the best promo tools by far in our new affiliate program

http://www.webcams.com/affiliate/

Let`s see how it`s work webcams for me

LoveSandra · 11-08-2008, 07:30 PM

lol

THE POP-UP DISSAPEAR!

MoreMagic · 11-08-2008, 11:34 PM

lol I think they realize that I where right and also type-in, search and bookmark traffic is there because of us.

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Originally Posted by LoveSandra

lol

THE POP-UP DISSAPEAR!

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2008, 11:44 PM

its still there if you visit with no cookie no ref code just as it was before

LoveSandra · 11-09-2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

its still there if you visit with no cookie no ref code just as it was before

Yep.Same shit.

MoreMagic · 11-09-2008, 08:52 AM

It stopped yesterday, I checked without cookies. Now its back again. Seem that some people at AWE are smarter then other.

Tjeezers · 11-09-2008, 09:15 AM

All in all...

Still no answer WHY THE POPUP is there.
But i assume Smokey The Bear will have a answer

Tjeezers · 11-09-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by John Marco

our tricks are to have the best conversions, the most fair payouts, and the best promo tools by far in our new affiliate program

http://www.webcams.com/affiliate/

i am for sure NOT ... let me repeat ... NOT ... impressed by your tools.
Not at all...There is always room for improvement, changing the layout is not helping.
You have to check functionality and test it out on 1000 and 1 way.

Its a good thing you improve step by step...

SmokeyTheBear · 11-09-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

All in all...

Still no answer WHY THE POPUP is there.
But i assume Smokey The Bear will have a answer

You do know why, the answer is on page #2, you just like repeating yourself

for anyone else that got this far but missed the response, there are no popups on affiliate links , the only time a user gets a popup is if they have no cookie and visit the main url with no ref code. i.e. it's their own trafic , own site

MoreMagic · 11-09-2008, 10:08 AM

It's not there own traffic and never have be there own traffic.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You do know why, the answer is on page #2, you just like repeating yourself

for anyone else that got this far but missed the response, there are no popups on affiliate links , the only time a user gets a popup is if they have no cookie and visit the main url with no ref code. i.e. it's their own trafic , own site

SmokeyTheBear · 11-09-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

It's not there own traffic and never have be there own traffic.

oh yes your right , their domain isn't their's, you own a piece because you are an affiliate , thus you own livejasmin thus this is all your fault.

give it a break , what a fucking moronic conclusion .

I hate to break it to you but yes it is THEIR TRAFFIC and site, they can do what they want with it, and they are, deal with it or go cry somewhere else like mr wiley

br4sco · 11-09-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

oh yes your right , their domain isn't their's, you own a piece because you are an affiliate , thus you own livejasmin thus this is all your fault.

give it a break , what a fucking moronic conclusion .

I hate to break it to you but yes it is THEIR TRAFFIC and site, they can do what they want with it, and they are, deal with it or go cry somewhere else like mr wiley

I dont know if you work for AWE or not , but if you do they better put a leash on you before you make them look very bad

and for the record my name is Donald Wiley , what the fuck are you going to do? fucking nothing, so i suggest you shut your fucking mouth , fucking loser

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