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Old 11-07-2008, 08:20 PM   #1
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:stop ATT SPONSORS - step inside

I am looking for sponsors whom fit the following criteria. I am asking here because i'm sure other people would be interested in a list as well.

I want sponsors who will let me use full length videos from their members areas ( videos of my choice ) on my tube sites

In return you will recieve the top banner spot on the page with the video
I will not use more than 3 - 10 min + videos from each site.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:24 PM   #2
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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If people offer them oh boy... Will they host them too?
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You will get lots of people that will do this .. They should host the movies too ..
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:35 PM   #5
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You will get lots of people that will do this .. They should host the movies too ..
most of the big sites are doing it already so there shouldnt be much of an issue anyways

and yes hosted ones are preferrable so sponsors can keep their videos at higher quality
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:27 PM   #7
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I am looking for sponsors whom fit the following criteria. I am asking here because i'm sure other people would be interested in a list as well.

I want sponsors who will let me use full length videos from their members areas ( videos of my choice ) on my tube sites

In return you will recieve the top banner spot on the page with the video
I will not use more than 3 - 10 min + videos from each site.
wow,

you'll even give us the top banner spot on the page that our own video is on?

cool, what a super duper great deal, sign me up....
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wow,

you'll even give us the top banner spot on the page that our own video is on?
is there an echo in here or are you practising to be a dull transcriptionist ?

if this is about fucking your mother , don't take it personal... everyone was taking a turn that night and the u-lock was right next to me
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Hey smokey hit me up, I'm sure we can do some business.

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:58 PM   #11
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is there an echo in here or are you practising to be a dull transcriptionist ?

if this is about fucking your mother , don't take it personal... everyone was taking a turn that night and the u-lock was right next to me
a little touchy are we?

I bet you don't have the balls to say that to my face.
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I bet you don't have the balls to say that to my face.
Are you going to whack him with some fish?
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Does top banner mean the only banner?

I think the problem most sponsors have is not being the only advertiser on the page with their video.
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If sponsors take Smokey up on this, allowing a tube to be full of high quality members content then our industry truly is fucked.....
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can i get a pass or do i have to pay for one ?

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I am looking for sponsors whom fit the following criteria. I am asking here because i'm sure other people would be interested in a list as well.

I want sponsors who will let me use full length videos from their members areas ( videos of my choice ) on my tube sites

In return you will recieve the top banner spot on the page with the video
I will not use more than 3 - 10 min + videos from each site.
For you Smokey I would give you access to sites in:

LionDollars

CuriousCash

RevshareRewards

RichCunts

To do that as you wish - KNOW you do things the right way !

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To do that as you wish - KNOW you do things the right way !

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Yeah legal tubes full of 10 + minute members videos is the right way!!!!! WTF are you guys thinking. Slit your own throats and everyone else. Well done...

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Yeah legal tubes full of 10 minute members videos is the right way!!!!! WTF are you guys thinking. Slit your own throats and everyone else. Well done...
Yeah I agree. Surely we give WAY too much away as it is!
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Yeah I agree. Surely we give WAY too much away as it is!
Our enemy is illegal tubes, and here we have sponsors jumping on board to create legal tubes that are equally as bad for the industry. Please have some business sense and keep legal tube vids below 3 mins.

I work with tubes myself and give them hundreds of my 1.5 minute vids and we make tonnes of sales, give them 10+ minute vids and we will make nothing...

I have a feeling Smokey started this thread to see how stupid some sponsors can be...
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If sponsors take Smokey up on this, allowing a tube to be full of high quality members content then our industry truly is fucked.....
the illegal tubesites with all the big traffic are already doing it , you have a choice to have a banner spot or run thru dmca hoops and get no link no watermark, its your choice
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Does top banner mean the only banner?

I think the problem most sponsors have is not being the only advertiser on the page with their video.
i understand that but times are changing, its hard to run a tube site with 1 banner. I try to do everything as up front as possible, there will be other banners , but unlike some tubesites it will be the MAIN banner going to sponsor
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Our enemy is illegal tubes, and here we have sponsors jumping on board to create legal tubes that are equally as bad for the industry. Please have some business sense and keep legal tube vids below 3 mins.

I work with tubes myself and give them hundreds of my 1.5 minute vids and we make tonnes of sales, give them 10+ minute vids and we will make nothing...

I have a feeling Smokey started this thread to see how stupid some sponsors can be...
if we could all abide by some sort of ethics then sure i would agree , under 3 mins is best, but thats simply not the way its going. none of the top "legal" tube sites are playing by those rules
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a little touchy are we?

I bet you don't have the balls to say that to my face.
do you have anything worthy to bet ? How about that boat in your avatar, i'll take that
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the illegal tubesites with all the big traffic are already doing it , you have a choice to have a banner spot or run thru dmca hoops and get no link no watermark, its your choice
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if we could all abide by some sort of ethics then sure i would agree , under 3 mins is best, but thats simply not the way its going. none of the top "legal" tube sites are playing by those rules
"All the big tube sites are doing it, so I guess I should do it too!"

Wow, a lot of respect is being lost in this thread...
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Wow, a lot of respect is being lost in this thread...
thats reality josh, sorry to break it to you, you have lost respect for reality , so have i , but i roll with it

The cat ( tube) is out of the bag , we can't stick it back in, the biggest legal adult sites right now are tube sites, my surfers and your surfers know where to find full length videos for free , so do you try to adapt or do you stick with your mgp's ?

I dont see what the dilema is , i want sponsors who WANT to display their full length videos, if you want to try a different strategy then thats fine too, i wouldnt lose respect for you.
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the only real argument against it is the dillution of content that like it or not is already taking place
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thats reality josh, sorry to break it to you, you have lost respect for reality , so have i , but i roll with it

The cat ( tube) is out of the bag , we can't stick it back in, the biggest legal adult sites right now are tube sites, my surfers and your surfers know where to find full length videos for free , so do you try to adapt or do you stick with your mgp's ?

I dont see what the dilema is , i want sponsors who WANT to display their full length videos, if you want to try a different strategy then thats fine too, i wouldnt lose respect for you.
Actually, yes, I adapted, not help out by giving out free porn too... I went to a niche I'm very good with, and have had success with in the past, because it has more to offer then a huge archive of porn videos, interaction with the models, custom photoshoots based on what the customer wants. I'm selling more then pictures and videos.
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thats exactly what i am talking about

You adapted to that some people adapted to tubes.

I'm not looking for sponsors who DON'T want to participate i am looking for sponsors who do. Sponsors are already GIVING away this content, you and i cant stop sponsors from giving away free content , we cant , if they want to give it away we cant do a thing to stop them , but don't get offended if i take some.
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if we could all abide by some sort of ethics then sure i would agree , under 3 mins is best, but thats simply not the way its going. none of the top "legal" tube sites are playing by those rules
Show me a legal tube that has full length members vids provided by sponsors...
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thats exactly what i am talking about

You adapted to that some people adapted to tubes.

I'm not looking for sponsors who DON'T want to participate i am looking for sponsors who do. Sponsors are already GIVING away this content, you and i cant stop sponsors from giving away free content , we cant , if they want to give it away we cant do a thing to stop them , but don't get offended if i take some.
You think the amount of tube sites out there right now giving 3+ minute videos away isn't bad enough you gotta add to it?
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While I do not like the idea giving away longer videos for free, I do not disagree with Smokey's stance on this because if a sponsor is willing to do it, that's there own prerogative. Smokey is not stealing the videos like some of the big tubes do, he's getting permission to use them from the sources, which I don't see anything wrong with. Yes, it's not going to help others in the short term or long term who are trying to sell the same stuff but you have to either adapt fully in this business also or you're fucked.

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While I do not like the idea giving away longer videos for free, I do not disagree with Smokey's stance on this because if a sponsor is willing to do it, that's there own prerogative. Smokey is not stealing the videos like some of the big tubes do, he's getting permission to use them from the sources, which I don't see anything wrong with. Yes, it's not going to help others in the short term or long term who are trying to sell the same stuff but you have to either adapt fully in this business also or you're fucked.
I dont' have an issue with Smokey it's the idiot sponsors who go along with this. Why do you think the sponsor will only get one banner?? that's cause Smokey knows he will make no sales via the sponsor he needs dating banners to make $$$ He will get a tonne of traffic due to having a site full of the best stuff that he can take from members areas but will be making his money from dating sites.

Edit, now that I think about it I do have a problem with Smokey. Why not let the sponsors give you the vids they wish to give away, why do you have to have access to rape the best vids you can find? Why?? because you want to make it even harder to upsell to the paysites but easier to upsell to dating sites. Thats why!!
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I dont' have an issue with Smokey it's the idiot sponsors who go along with this. Why do you think the sponsor will only get one banner?? that's cause Smokey knows he will make no sales via the sponsor he needs dating banners to make $$$ He will get a tonne of traffic due to having a site full of the best stuff that he can take from members areas but will be making his money from dating sites.

Edit, now that I think about it I do have a problem with Smokey. Why not let the sponsors give you the vids they wish to give away, why do you have to have access to rape the best vids you can find? Why?? because you want to make it even harder to upsell to the paysites but easier to upsell to dating sites. Thats why!!
Again, no sponsor has to allow Smokey what he's requesting if they don't want to, like it or not this is going on with many sites and Smokey is definitely not one of the first to request these and definitely won't be the last.
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Again, no sponsor has to allow Smokey what he's requesting if they don't want to, like it or not this is going on with many sites and Smokey is definitely not one of the first to request these and definitely won't be the last.
What legal tubes are full of full length vids from members areas??
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You think the amount of tube sites out there right now giving 3+ minute videos away isn't bad enough you gotta add to it?
the tube sites giving away 3 minute videos are few and far between and those videos were already being watched in video format via mgp's far before tube sites.

All the big legal adult tube sites are running full scenes, if you can get them to stop then by all means go for it , but they are already dilluting the content pool.

As an affiliate of some of the sponsors providing these big tube sites with full length scenes , i am forced to compete with the available content in the sponsors webmasters area, usually these are short scenes not full length scenes. How am i supposed to promote a sponsor with 2 minute videos when the most popular adult sites are giving away full length scenes ?
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What legal tubes are full of full length vids from members areas??
That is a dumb question considering if the sponsor allows him to do it and all similar videos on his tube are also approved by the sponsor then his full length video tube is now a legal tube
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That is a dumb question considering if the sponsor allows him to do it and all similar videos on his tube are also approved by the sponsor then his full length video tube is now a legal tube
True, what are the tubes that have full length members clips given to them by sponsors??
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True, what are the tubes that have full length members clips given to them by sponsors??
http://www.redtube.com/13697

nicole graves shapcash

http://www.redtube.com/49

my first sex teacher - naughty america

http://www.redtube.com/14492

twistys - twistcash

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on a sidenote those sponsors submitted those vids themselves, so they had to title , describe and submit them , i am saving these sponsors all the trouble of having to go through that process and offering to do that part myself.
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Why do you think the sponsor will only get one banner?? that's cause Smokey knows he will make no sales via the sponsor he needs dating banners to make $$$ He will get a tonne of traffic due to having a site full of the best stuff that he can take from members areas but will be making his money from dating sites.
Tube sites generate sales for paysites, even with 10 minute videos. Not at the ratios you're used to from 1999, but they do.
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http://www.redtube.com/13697

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http://www.redtube.com/49

my first sex teacher - naughty america

http://www.redtube.com/14492

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on a sidenote those sponsors submitted those vids themselves, so they had to title , describe and submit them , i am saving these sponsors all the trouble of having to go through that process and offering to do that part myself.
So Redtube is your example of a legal tube working with sponsors using full length members vids?? At least the sponsors are able to upload the vids they wish to release. It seemed you were saying the cats out of the bag and there are many legit tubes doing this already. Which ones are they? tube8 youporn pornhub?
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Tube sites generate sales for paysites, even with 10 minute videos. Not at the ratios you're used to from 1999, but they do.
Not the ratios were used to from 1999 to early 2008. We had a great model with mgps tgps raking in tonnes of $$$ now short sighted peeps are ruining the ratios (and they will get much worse) by giving away longer and longer vids.

It's one thing for illegal tubes like redtube to get away with it, but for sponsors to actually be stupid enough to perpetuate the problem is beyond belief...
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So Redtube is your example of a legal tube working with sponsors using full length members vids?? At least the sponsors are able to upload the vids they wish to release. It seemed you were saying the cats out of the bag and there are many legit tubes doing this already. Which ones are they? tube8 youporn pornhub?
i'm not going to babysit you thru a linklist i have better things to do , look around yourself , you asked a question i gave you the answer. I gave you sponsors that submitted full length porn movies to tube sites from their members areas , exactly what you asked for .
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i'm not going to babysit you thru a linklist i have better things to do , look around yourself , you asked a question i gave you the answer. I gave you sponsors that submitted full length porn movies to tube sites from their members areas , exactly what you asked for .
Fair enough, I surf tubes daily and havent come accross what your talking about. Sorry to seem like i'm busting your balls, I know your going with the flow and not doing anything dodgy, I'm just surprised any sponsors would take you up on this, and it's them that annoy me!!
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Fair enough, I surf tubes daily and havent come accross what your talking about. Sorry to seem like i'm busting your balls, I know your going with the flow and not doing anything dodgy, I'm just surprised any sponsors would take you up on this, and it's them that annoy me!!
i am kinda annoyed also , i would love everything to stay the same but at the same time adapt or die. They are trying something different love it or hate it. Everyone is sort of in 3 different areas right now in porn.

1 those moving to the tubes
2 those going another direction
3 those waiting out the storm

most people are #3's right now
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