Livejasmin Pop Under Part 2 - We try again to explain!

[Tjeezers]

OKe so i try again to explain, cause smokeythebear tried to put up a smoke curtain on the previous thread, and he does not understand how it works, or whatever we explain.

So Step 1, you send traffic on your affiliate link. Visitor clicks and goes to livejasmin, so far so good, a cookie has loaded, for a whole 14 days.
Then... the client goes the next day to www.Livejasmin.com, cause he simply reminds the name, and he DOES SEE the popup, no matter what. ( this is cause you dont send him on your tracked link, but he still has your cookie )

Now, smokeythebear said, Hee it is not on your affiliate link, so what is your problem
Well here is the problem:

When you reffer a client for 14 days, he should be able to NOT see the popup for 14 days also right? But no, this is NOT happening.
So i again re-open the discussion, affiliate traffic is being taken by AWE. This pop under does NOT come when your visitor keeps clicking your affiliate link from of your site. But according the terms, 14 day cookie, he should NOT see the popunder also for 14 days. Here is where it goes wrong, and we do not get satisfaction on the AWE forum about this.

This is how it should be, when client loads your 14 day cookie, he should visit the next day livejasmin.com ( he types it in his browser ) and NOT see a popup.

It is time to put some pressure on this issue, cause it is not being resolved till sofare

Thanks for reading

[$5 submissions]

You guys should also put that in your terms.

[dropped9]

I predict lots of views and funny dudddys in this thread,,,

[dropped9]

[d-null]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

You guys should also put that in your terms.

you seem to think that sex2have is with livejasmine

[pornguy]

Now I know why so many people are looking for a new cam program..



we have one!!!! ICQ me.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by Headless

I predict lots of views and funny dudddys in this thread,,,

[Pete-KT]

if its tracking the affiliate code, IT SHOULD NOT SHOW THE POPUP if the affilaite is being paid out on CONSOLE FREE traffic

[IllTestYourGirls]

Uh on another one of these threads

[xsabn]

where is first part? someone deleted the thread?

[MoreMagic]

let me help you search THREAD

Originally Posted by xsabn

where is first part? someone deleted the thread?

[mikeyddddd]

[aico]

Why you send traffic to them is beyond me, when there are soooo many other cam sponsors that offer lifetime revshare. For instance the one in my sig.

[The Duck]

shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaady

[MoreMagic]

What do you think about spending years in your network with 1000's of handmade pages as longterm investment not going to quick change.

Originally Posted by aico

Why you send traffic to them is beyond me, when there are soooo many other cam sponsors that offer lifetime revshare. For instance the one in my sig.

[aico]

Originally Posted by MoreMagic

What do you think about spending years in your network with 1000's of handmade pages as longterm investment not going to quick change.

say huh?

[Mickey_]

Dear Harry,

I have been patient and polite but i think your outbursts are getting a bit inappropriate.

#1 Popunders have been around in the industry forever

#2 Popunders are NOT SHOWN if the user is sent through an affiliate link OR if a user carries an affiliate ID and that is how it's been from the start

You told me you were able to make the popunder pop even though you had an affiliate cookie. Our devs immediately tested on numerous machines, in numerous countries using different configurations/browsers and could NOT reproduce what you described. At that point I asked you for details. You said you would send. I am still waiting. No email, but there's a thread. This tells me you're merely looking for drama. If you'd like to send me information about the issue you experienced and the details i asked you for feel free to.

I don't appreciate the fact that you're fully aware we operate in the EU yet you start a thread like this at night. You are a loyal affiliate and it does not go unnoticed, however I truly believe you're misplacing your resources and effort in this case.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

#2 Popunders are NOT SHOWN if the user is sent through an affiliate link OR if a user carries an affiliate ID and that is how it's been from the start

I think what he's saying is that even though my affiliate cookie is loaded today, someone just going to the site tomorrow still gets the popup which means the cookie was dropped.

How about this though: if someone goes to Livejasmin and signs up and becomes a member, you get sales for the initial 2 weeks that they're a member? Or just for when they have a cookie on their system? What about if that same person comes back now under a different cookie and logs in with their account, who gets the commission, or does nobody get the commission?

[Tempest]

Niiicceeeeee.... popup goes to a free porn site.. fuck.. why does anyone keep promoting these guys...

[jmcb420]

I would never promote Livejasmin. I value my surfers and the pop-ups are BS.

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

I think what he's saying is that even though my affiliate cookie is loaded today, someone just going to the site tomorrow still gets the popup which means the cookie was dropped.

[LatinCams]

Try us.

Revshare means by us REALLY LIFETIME converting up 1:44

Joust give a try with a few clicks

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Try us.

Revshare means by us REALLY LIFETIME converting up 1:44

Joust give a try with a few clicks

since you are here spamming your link why dont you answer the same question.

What happens when a surfer goes thru an affiliate link to your site then the next day clears their cookies and goes back to your main site without an affiliate id ?

I will guess first then you can tell me if i am right. you take 100% and that surfer will never get signed up thru another affiliate ever again .. right ?

so in other words you are worse than awe ?

thanks for playing

[SmokeyTheBear]

the issue was resolved , you got an answer , you didnt like it, keep starting threads and you will be banned from gfy. end of story.

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

since you are here spamming your link why dont you answer the same question.

What happens when a surfer goes thru an affiliate link to your site then the next day clears their cookies and goes back to your main site without an affiliate id ?

I will guess first then you can tell me if i am right. you take 100% and that surfer will never get signed up thru another affiliate ever again .. right ?

so in other words you are worse than awe ?

thanks for playing

Dont Pick on me. I dont give a fuck about AWE or what their doing and have not posted anything about saying is wrong or not. They have their business and can run it as they wish. But im here for MY business and if i see is a good oportunity then i post.

And about ur question IPs are also saved so u get ur money for sure. And also if the member continues buying credits with the same USERNAME that he signed on the first time with u, than u get money everytime that USER or USERNAME gets credit. Thats how it is at our place. SO SORRY NO UR NOT RIGHT

[aico]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

What happens when a surfer goes thru an affiliate link to your site then the next day clears their cookies and goes back to your main site without an affiliate id ?

As with AWE, most cam sites require the surfer to create a free account, you no longer need an affiliate code to track how much that surfer spends when they have a username in the database.

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by aico

As with AWE, most cam sites require the surfer to create a free account, you no longer need an affiliate code to track how much that surfer spends when they have a username in the database.

Exactly thats what i meant

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Dont Pick on me. I dont give a fuck about AWE or what their doing and have not posted anything about saying is wrong or not.

Pretty low to spam your product in a thread like this which is specifically on livejasmin.
WG

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by aico

As with AWE, most cam sites require the surfer to create a free account, you no longer need an affiliate code to track how much that surfer spends when they have a username in the database.

Yeah but with AWE, if that person clears their cookies OR if they take longer than 2 weeks then I don't think anyone ever makes sales from them again. That's the worst thing about it, sure the cookie is there for 2 weeks, but then after that cookie is gone I don't think ANYONE can make money off of that guy except for AWE.

I always thought that if the person signed up with the cookie on their system now all sales under that username go to the affiliate but I don't believe that this is the case.

Surfer signs up --> does initial load --> $8.99 --> 3 weeks later does another load --> $0

And I think no matter what as long as the guy already has an account no affiliate will get credit for him unless it was the affiliate that originally sent him AND it was within the 14 days.

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Pretty low to spam your product in a thread like this which is specifically on livejasmin.
WG

whatever.... read the last thread about same Topic and see how many of the BIG NAMES (sorry for not mentioning) were there "spamming" (if u call it so).

And I have not even said anything positive or negative about AWE, understand I dont care.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Dont Pick on me. I dont give a fuck about AWE or what their doing and have not posted anything about saying is wrong or not what their doing. They have their business and can run it as they wish. But im here for MY business and if i see is a good oportunity then i post.

you posted in a drama thread about your competition , its low class.. you will always get "picked on" if you do it.

Originally Posted by LatinCams

And about ur question IPs are also saved so u get ur money for sure. And also if the member continues buying money with the same USERNAME that he signed on the first time with u, than u get money everytimes that USER or USERNAME gets credit. Thats how it is at our place. SO SORRY NO UR NOT RIGHT

ok let me be very clear and you with your answer. If i am an affiliate and i send a surfer thru my affilaite link and they decide not to buy and the come back 6 months later and manually type in your domain name i will get credit ? yes or no

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Yeah but with AWE, if that person clears their cookies OR if they take longer than 2 weeks then I don't think anyone ever makes sales from them again. That's the worst thing about it, sure the cookie is there for 2 weeks, but then after that cookie is gone I don't think ANYONE can make money off of that guy except for AWE.

your plain wrong, the whole point of the 14 day cookie/revshare is that other webmasters get a chance to convert the same user , so 30 affiliates can each make money of the same surfer

Originally Posted by moeloubani

And I think no matter what as long as the guy already has an account no affiliate will get credit for him unless it was the affiliate that originally sent him AND it was within the 14 days.

wrong

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

your plain wrong, the whole point of the 14 day cookie/revshare is that other webmasters get a chance to convert the same user , so 30 affiliates can each make money of the same surfer


wrong

i had a friend that used my link to go and sign up, a couple of months later he told me he wants to do cams again, so i give him a link, he clicks on it, logs in and signs up - 0 commission

a month later he asks to do it again, i give him a link, he clicks, 0 commission

so im not sure how you could say wrong, because ive actually seen it go down.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

whatever.... read the last thread about same Topic and see how many of the BIG NAMES (sorry for not mentioning) were there "spamming" (if u call it so).

everyone calls it so . and yes we would be most interedted to hear about these so called "big names" that were spamming that thread ?

The only other cam sponsor i saw respond was webcams.com and they were called into the thread multiple times with similar accusations.

So please refresh our memory to these sponsors please.

p.s. if anyone wants the simple answer i will tell you now to avoid the hassle , There were no other cam sponsors who spammed that thread.

[longdongsilver]

Regarding AWE

If someone signs up using your affiliate link and becomes an active member with AWE, and they watch some cams for a few weeks, then they go on vacation or are busy and don't login for a few weeks. Do they remain your member? ie do you still get paid for their use of the cams system? If not when they log back in and start using their account again who does take what was previously yours?


In the past i'd heard different accounts of this, and i'm still not sure to push cams or AWE on the basis of this.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

i had a friend that used my link to go and sign up, a couple of months later he told me he wants to do cams again, so i give him a link, he clicks on it, logs in and signs up - 0 commission

a month later he asks to do it again, i give him a link, he clicks, 0 commission

so im not sure how you could say wrong, because ive actually seen it go down.

very simple explanation. cookies are not overwritten. if your friend visited someone else's link code in the month after they signed up thru you , they have someone else's cookie and thus they got paid for the signup not you. after 14 days your cookie is clear , if they visit someone elses link and get a cookie then they visit your ref code you wont get the credit.

if you want to do a true test tell them to type javascript:alert(document.cookie) in their address bar after they visit your link to ensure you are in the cookie

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by longdongsilver

Regarding AWE

If someone signs up using your affiliate link and becomes an active member with AWE, and they watch some cams for a few weeks, then they go on vacation or are busy and don't login for a few weeks. Do they remain your member? ie do you still get paid for their use of the cams system? If not when they log back in and start using their account again who does take what was previously yours?


In the past i'd heard different accounts of this, and i'm still not sure to push cams or AWE on the basis of this.

i dont work for awe but i will give you my opinion.

After your cookie is clear ( 14 days ) if the user came straight back to the site the ref $ would now go to awe until the user gets a cookie set from another awe affiliate.

Don't let these cheesy awe bash threads put you off, 99% of them are started by people who already promote awe as their main cam sponsor and they continue to do so after, usually its just a slow week and they want someone to blame.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

whatever.... read the last thread about same Topic and see how many of the BIG NAMES (sorry for not mentioning) were there "spamming" (if u call it so).

And I have not even said anything positive or negative about AWE, understand I dont care.

Sounds more that you're desperate for business rather than carrying a professional image.
WG

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

very simple explanation. cookies are not overwritten. if your friend visited someone else's link code in the month after they signed up thru you , they have someone else's cookie and thus they got paid for the signup not you. after 14 days your cookie is clear , if they visit someone elses link and get a cookie then they visit your ref code you wont get the credit.

if you want to do a true test tell them to type javascript:alert(document.cookie) in their address bar after they visit your link to ensure you are in the cookie

oopsie daisies my apologies, i thought the cookies were overwritten

thats not too bad then i guess

[longdongsilver]

thanks for the explanation of this, i understand the cookie will have worn off. However AWE should still be able to tell that it is one of my members since the user and pass they have chosen will stay the same and that should be tied to my affiliate account.

It's almost totally unfair if my understanding of it is correct. I think they should stay yours unless after 14days another affiliate pushes them to the site, even then i think 14days is quite a short period, a lot of people take 3 week vacations or more. Why should AWE after 14days just collect the next X years revenue from this person? I mean the person who signed up may never go to AWE in any other route than a direct type in for the next 10years or whatever and pump $100000's on cams?

Anyway i guess i have to read all the cams sites tos to see what's going on out there.

I only have so much ad space so maybe stick with dating over cams for now.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by longdongsilver

thanks for the explanation of this, i understand the cookie will have worn off. However AWE should still be able to tell that it is one of my members since the user and pass they have chosen will stay the same and that should be tied to my affiliate account.

It's almost totally unfair if my understanding of it is correct. I think they should stay yours unless after 14days another affiliate pushes them to the site, even then i think 14days is quite a short period, a lot of people take 3 week vacations or more. Why should AWE after 14days just collect the next X years revenue from this person? I mean the person who signed up may never go to AWE in any other route than a direct type in for the next 10years or whatever and pump $100000's on cams?

Anyway i guess i have to read all the cams sites tos to see what's going on out there.

I only have so much ad space so maybe stick with dating over cams for now.

unfair ? there is no "fair" in this biz. The whole point of the system is to let affiliates share the signups, love it or hate it. I understand where your coming from and all i can recommend is giving them a try, if your not making more money on that adspot then don't use them. pretty simple logic, unless the sponsor is doing something unethical or illegal.

[br4sco]

Originally Posted by longdongsilver

thanks for the explanation of this, i understand the cookie will have worn off. However AWE should still be able to tell that it is one of my members since the user and pass they have chosen will stay the same and that should be tied to my affiliate account.

It's almost totally unfair if my understanding of it is correct. I think they should stay yours unless after 14days another affiliate pushes them to the site, even then i think 14days is quite a short period, a lot of people take 3 week vacations or more. Why should AWE after 14days just collect the next X years revenue from this person? I mean the person who signed up may never go to AWE in any other route than a direct type in for the next 10years or whatever and pump $100000's on cams?

Anyway i guess i have to read all the cams sites tos to see what's going on out there.

I only have so much ad space so maybe stick with dating over cams for now.

They have a good setup, it gives everybody a chance to make money on the clients buying cam shows, not just one person who has mega traffic and gets everybody cookied under their PSID by sending 20,000 UN's a day or something. the popunder thing tho is not fair IMO BECAUSE if somebody promotes them under PPS instead of REVS ... THEN nobody can make money from that client anymore and it all goes to AWE and thats what is happening on the free site that gets poped up, they have alink going back to livejasmin thats PPS instead of REV.

This will just cause people to stop sending as much traffic IMO

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you posted in a drama thread about your competition , its low class.. you will always get "picked on" if you do it.

Ok then please do what u have to do and keep "Picking" on us, because since u start it more and more Affiliates have signed up with us.

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

ok let me be very clear and you with your answer. If i am an affiliate and i send a surfer thru my affilaite link and they decide not to buy and the come back 6 months later and manually type in your domain name i will get credit ? yes or no

If he registered for FREE and 6 months later log in and buy Creds with that Username......Yes u would get ur money.......is called a DB, somebody wrotte the concept before here the quote to remind u:

Originally Posted by aico

As with AWE, most cam sites require the surfer to create a free account, you no longer need an affiliate code to track how much that surfer spends when they have a username in the database.

[seeandsee]

somebody should check my sig

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

everyone calls it so . and yes we would be most interedted to hear about these so called "big names" that were spamming that thread ?

The only other cam sponsor i saw respond was webcams.com and they were called into the thread multiple times with similar accusations.

So please refresh our memory to these sponsors please.

p.s. if anyone wants the simple answer i will tell you now to avoid the hassle , There were no other cam sponsors who spammed that thread.

U keep posting and posting without reviewing or reading at all. Let me help U refreshing ur memory, and hope at one time ull say Ok ur right and i was wrong since u have REQUIRE so many explanations which I have given, even thought I owe u nothing.

Originally Posted by Jayvis

Yoooo br4sco, check out my sig. $150 pps, who wouldn't want that kind of money? Feel free to hit me up if you need anything, I'll be around all day.

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Sounds more that you're desperate for business rather than carrying a professional image.
WG

What is unprofessional about giving another option, or doing a promo.

Unprofessional would be to comment in that issue or say negative things about that company which I have not at all.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Ok then please do what u have to do and keep "Picking" on us, because since u start it more and more Affiliates have signed up with us.

lol they all say that

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

If i am an affiliate and i send a surfer thru my affilaite link and they decide not to buy and the come back 6 months later and manually type in your domain name i will get credit ? yes or no

Originally Posted by LatinCams

If he registered for FREE and 6 months later log in and buy Creds with that Username......Yes u would get ur money.......is called a DB, somebody wrotte the concept before here the quote to remind u:

so in short you cant answer a simple yes/no question , why because you know the answer is no. I didnt say anything about registering , you told me you track by ip address not username , so now you are a liar as well, your cred is skyrocketing

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Let me help U refreshing ur memory,

so when you say "see how many of the BIG NAMES (sorry for not mentioning) were there "spamming" "

what you meant to say was 1 other sponsor also spammed the thread, "big names" is plural meaning MORE than 1 other sponsor spammed the thread.

I hope you have learned some new english today and perhaps even some understanding of ethics..

[MoreMagic]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

understanding of ethics..

Home hope that AWE is going to learn that soon to.

[LatinCams]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so when you say "see how many of the BIG NAMES (sorry for not mentioning) were there "spamming" "

what you meant to say was 1 other sponsor also spammed the thread, "big names" is plural meaning MORE than 1 other sponsor spammed the thread.

I hope you have learned some new english today and perhaps even some understanding of ethics..

that one and the one u mentioned is how much ?

1+1=2

Really u post joust for posting, and yes I really hope to learn a lot from U and from ignorance. How many languages do u speak by the way ?



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