How I think the Amero will play out

[jwerd]

This isn't for those that want to watch and get their news from the TV and not something besides CNN or Faux news. Just a warning.
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Been reading a lot and doing research of my own and I think I've finally figured out how the Amero is going to play out. How they could possibly pass it off.

Take the dollar. The buying power of the dollar is no where near what it was in the 50s and 60s, and that can attribute to the inflation level that has rose over the years and other things.

So, since we already know the dollar is no longer backed by anything, spending can only weaken it further and further. I think with all the bail outs and all this "money out of thin air" we can officially say goodbye to the dollar. Now it's time to usher in something new. But see, since the masses still think the Fed Reserve is Federal and part of the Govt, they can create another currency out of thin air... and buy back the dollars at whatever rate they choose.

Sound a like plan, huh? Discuss

[The Duck]

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Going further they will merge NAU, EU and APEC. Welcome to George Orwells 1984.

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by kandah

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Exactly...

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by kandah

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Going further they will merge NAU, EU and APEC. Welcome to George Orwells 1984.

And so the question remains, what can WE do about it? I've heard all sorts of things like building this world where there is no longer a profit system, everyones equal, yada yada. But I'm thinking of right here and now.... aside from an all out assault on the banksters, that is...

[Malicious Biz]

Paranoid, Xenophobic Conservatives that fear change and progress for all mankind ITT

Keep hanging on to the old ways, it seems to be going swimmingly

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Paranoid, Xenophobic Conservatives that fear change and progress for all mankind ITT

Keep hanging on to the old ways, it seems to be going swimmingly

I figured you'd jump in the thread. Make sure when they inject that little chip in you that you understand it's merely for your safety and to combat terrorism. If you get kidnapped, they can find you, see

Btw, I see how you roll in your other thread.... this will be my only response to you homie ;)

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Paranoid, Xenophobic Conservatives that fear change and progress for all mankind ITT

Keep hanging on to the old ways, it seems to be going swimmingly

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by lamerhooD

I figured you'd jump in the thread. Make sure when they inject that little chip in you that you understand it's merely for your safety and to combat terrorism. If you get kidnapped, they can find you, see

Rome is burning and you're playing a fiddle made of Paranoia.

[WarChild]

Yeah you guys got it all figured out. Please.

[iMind]

Originally Posted by lamerhooD

I figured you'd jump in the thread. Make sure when they inject that little chip in you that you understand it's merely for your safety and to combat terrorism. If you get kidnapped, they can find you, see

Btw, I see how you roll in your other thread.... this will be my only response to you homie ;)

Just block his ass like I did.

He's a fucking tool.

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Rome is burning and you're playing a fiddle made of Paranoia.

Rome is burning by design, another empire is laying dormant in the shadows ready to be installed.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by AnalProbe

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html

Cliff Notes: Let North America completely collapse because, well, we wouldn't want to be treasonous, now would we? Also: Progress is the devil.

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Yeah you guys got it all figured out. Please.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by kandah

Rome is burning by design, another empire is laying dormant in the shadows ready to be installed.

Yes, "They" again. "They" have pulled the strings while lurking in the shadows, right?

The paranoia plays on.

[WarChild]

You just don't understand that there's no way to force Canada in to it. How are you going to make Canada use the Amero? We'd never have it.

Kandah's just a silly kid playing at grown up games. Don't be part of his madness guys, really.

[cykoe6]

We are all a little stupider for having read this thread.

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Yes, "They" again. "They" have pulled the strings while lurking in the shadows, right?

The paranoia plays on.

They have only been working in the shadows if all the information you get is from the mainstream media. Go outside that realm and you will see it's all very open. Even a 13 year old could connect the dots at this point.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by kandah

They have only been working in the shadows if all the information you get is from the mainstream media. Go outside that realm and you will see it's all very open. Even a 13 year old could connect the dots at this point.

Yes, everyone tune into 911insidejobbuilderbergilluminati.blogspot.com for the truth. Right Kandah?

There's no such thing as bad information in your world is there? as long as it fits within your preconcieved notions of powerful boogey men lurking in the shadows it must be true right?

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You just don't understand that there's no way to force Canada in to it. How are you going to make Canada use the Amero? We'd never have it.

Kandah's just a silly kid playing at grown up games. Don't be part of his madness guys, really.

That's cool you are entitled to your opinion but I urge you to just please check out the other side of the coin, you might be suprised that what I have been saying is not just conspiracy nutjob bullshit.

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You just don't understand that there's no way to force Canada in to it. How are you going to make Canada use the Amero? We'd never have it.

You are right, I don't understand how... And I hope you are right, that you'd never have it or accept it. But I think if the plan is going to go forward, details about *how* will soon unfold. But that's if.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by kandah

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Going further they will merge NAU, EU and APEC. Welcome to George Orwells 1984.

Orwell only missed it by a few years

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Yes, everyone tune into 911insidejobbuilderbergilluminati.blogspot.com for the truth. Right Kandah?

There's no such thing as bad information in your world is there? as long as it fits within your preconcieved notions of powerful boogey men lurking in the shadows it must be true right?

No, just do some research on the bilderberg group, council on foreign relations, trilateral commision, project for a new american century.

In David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" he admits that he is part of a secret cabal working to destroy the United States and create a new world order.

Here is the direct quote from his book pg. 405

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller

All world leaders talking about a new world order, what do you think it means? Do you think it means nothing? They are telling us their plans to our face.

[Malicious Biz]

You can build up all the "evil" boogeymen you want. The world is changing Kandah, and there is nothing that your rightwing conservative fear mongering can do about it.

[GAMMA303]

Originally Posted by kandah

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Going further they will merge NAU, EU and APEC. Welcome to George Orwells 1984.

Big Brother here we come!

[The Duck]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

You can build up all the "evil" boogeymen you want. The world is changing Kandah, and there is nothing that your rightwing conservative fear mongering can do about it.

Right wing conservative fear mongering?

I am not even going to bother writing a reply.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by kandah

Right wing conservative fear mongering?

I am not even going to bother writing a reply.

It's no big secret that this whole conspiracy horseshit was born out of conservative movements in the 50's

From the John Bircher Society to Alex Jones... All Conservative Nutjobs. And most of their paranoia is directed at left-wing liberalism. If you had a half a brain you could see that for yourself.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You just don't understand that there's no way to force Canada in to it. How are you going to make Canada use the Amero? We'd never have it.
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why not? You think Harper wants none of it? You know alot about the subject? Its being pushed heavily by major American and Canadian Think Tanks.. like the fraser institute.. http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/1999/1...ncy991005.html

[xxxdesign-net]

LOL at Maliciousbiz... I would have sworn you were being sarcastic in the other thread... shit you were not I guess you read all the links you posted and are eating it up like a sucker.. Did you study the European Union model before wishing for a North American Union? You know they are trying hard to get a unified European Union constitution? You want to get rid of the US constitution?

And may I add, you talk about crazy conspiracy theories and all but that North Americna Union you want so badly... isnt that also considered a conspiracy theory? Please enlight me...

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

You know they are trying hard to get a unified European Union constitution? You want to get rid of the US constitution?

I want prosperity for this nation and the entire world as a whole. Regional Unionizing is a proposed solution to the problems that have been plaguing us. I find it interesting because the same ol same has done nothing but to continue impoverishing the peoples of the world and I think it's high-time for a change

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

And may I add, you talk about crazy conspiracy theories and all but that North Americna Union you want so badly... isnt that also considered a conspiracy theory?

No, it's an actual solution to the problem that is explained in great detail.. Not an "evil plot" unlike the conspiracy theorist would have you believe.

Speaking of which.. What are their proposed solutions? Do they have any?

Of course not. Because solving the problem would cut into their Conspiracy Video, Book, And Lecture Fee Income. They will continue to fearmonger for profit like they've done for decades now.

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Please enlight me...

You sound as if you've been "enlightened" more than enough by Alex Jones and others of his ilk.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

I want prosperity for this nation and the entire world as a whole. Regional Unionizing is a proposed solution to the problems that have been plaguing us. I find it interesting because the same ol same has done nothing but to continue impoverishing the peoples of the world and I think it's high-time for a change

But you know nothing about how the problems came about it seems... You also seem to be under the impression that were are not run by crooks and liars but by good decent public SERVANTS who only want the best for all humans... Awww what a delightful sweet soul! lol And just like any good koolaid drinker, any proposition of CHANGE will light you up and make you hope, no matter where the change is applied..

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

But you know nothing about how the problems came about it seems... You also seem to be under the impression that were are not run by crooks and liars but by good decent public SERVANTS who only want the best for all humans....

Of course not there are crooks and bandits everywhere. But, I also see no reason to believe that the powers that be are evil criminals that are hell bent on enlaving humanity either.

I happened to believe that humans are essentially good at their core and not horrible blood thirsty monsters.. so why would my feelings about one change just because that human went onto be elected?

I refuse to live in fear and paranoia of someone just because they won an election.. lol.

[onwebcam]

Malicious Biz there has been a solution proposed. In fact it's an act proposed by Ron Paul. And there is also a solution proposed for a world currency by both Gordon Brown and Silvio Berlusconi. Gordon Browns is the same thing we have now, a banker controlled system (the same people running things now) and what Silvio Berlusconi Prime Minister of Italy and conspiracy nutjob like me is proposing is a bank for the people of the world controlled by the people of the world.

[kane]

Here is how it will play out.

1.Obama surrounds himself with some very strong economic minds (he is already doing this)

2. Together they get a plan in place to help turn the economy around. The economy is a cyclical thing anyways so there are always downturns. This one was aided by other forces and combined we have hit a real rough spot. The economy starts to regain its strength. Unemployment drops and things start to look up.

3. More spending occurs, but not a lot of spending cuts to offset it. This helps us to stay in debt.

4. As our economy rebounds so does the world's. Everyone is starting to feel more at ease and everything is back to "business as usual." We can stop worrying about the economy and get back to important things like if gays should be married or if I should be allowed to watch Max Hardcore piss in a girl's mouth.

5. As the worldwide economy continues to grows we borrow more and more money from China. We need this money to pay for all of our new projects.

6. In 5-6 years there is another cyclical economic downturn. because there was little or no regulation on the current bailout there were not many fundamental changes to how our financial industry works so as the economy slides, so does it. We need money then to bring us out of it and China makes us a deal we can't refuse. Not because it is a good deal, but because by then we will have huge debt, so much worthless cash in circulation and a failing economy that we will have no other choice.

7. I go to my local bank and trade in all my American Greenbacks for smooth, cool Chinese yen and I receive a free T-shirt that simply says "Owned" on it.

Then again maybe Obama's people will not just figure out how to get us out of this mess, but also how to sustain growth for a long period of time while reducing debt and cutting spending.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by kandah

First they collapse the dollar, then the american empire goes, as solution they will offer the north american union and the amero.

All according to a strategy called problem-reaction-solution where they create a problem, wait for a reaction from the people demanding a solution which they then offer. Of course the solution was already planned when they created the problem.

Going further they will merge NAU, EU and APEC. Welcome to George Orwells 1984.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

I happened to believe that humans are essentially good at their core and not horrible blood thirsty monsters.. so why would my feelings about one change just because that human went onto be elected?


I refuse to live in fear and paranoia of someone just because they won an election.. lol.

Malicious Biz in a nutshell !! Thanks for explaining...

You refuse to believe your leaders (which goes well beyond one elected human as you put it) could be selfish greedy, corrupted, power hungry bastards/criminals who are only in it for themselves and dont care one bit about you...because otherwise youd experience fear and paranoia right? Ok, enjoy your NAU and dont take off those rose tinted glasses you seem to have on...

And you obviously know nothing about history to say that crap about most humans (in position of power, since thats what we are talking about yes?) being essentially good at their core...

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Malicious Biz there has been a solution proposed. In fact it's an act proposed by Ron Paul.

If you think that rolling back our economy to the 1900's, burying the US's head in the sand foriegn policy-wise, and allowing libertarianism to run wild is workable solution today you are sadly mistaken. You think corporations controlling the government is bad now? Hand the keys over to a paleo-conservative/libertarian and see what happens.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

And there is also a solution proposed for a world currency by both Gordon Brown and Silvio Berlusconi. Gordon Browns is the same thing we have now, a banker controlled system (the same people running things now) and what Silvio Berlusconi Prime Minister of Italy and conspiracy nutjob like me is proposing is a bank for the people of the world controlled by the people of the world.

So you support Ron Paul and the exact opposite of what Ron Paul believes at the same time? Makes sense to me.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

You refuse to believe your leaders (which goes well beyond one elected human as you put it) could be selfish greedy, corrupted, power hungry bastards/criminals who are only in it for themselves...because otherwise youd experience fear and paranoia right? Ok, enjoy your NAU sucker!

Not surprising, but you seem to have missed my point completely. HUURRR

[DWB]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You just don't understand that there's no way to force Canada in to it. How are you going to make Canada use the Amero? We'd never have it.

Kandah's just a silly kid playing at grown up games. Don't be part of his madness guys, really.

Think about 2 years ago. If I told you the USA was going to be in the state it is in now, you would laugh at me.

2 years from now, maybe only 1, it is possible the Canadian currency goes belly up. It happened to Argentina. Why can't it happen to Canada? Who would have ever thought last year that the USA would be on the brink of financial collapse?

All I'm saying is, ANYTHING is possible. I would not put too much stock into thinking that there would be nothing in it for Canada. Today maybe not. But next year... who knows?

[Darkland]

While this might all be a real possibility, what no one is looking at is WHY create another currency? People are use to using their credit or debit cards these days.

Some people, like me, never even see real money. I get a piece of paper with a dollar amount written on it, I give it to my bank and they give me another piece of paper that tells me another dollar amount that is in my bank account.

BUT IT IS NOT. It is all just a bunch a numbers in a computer being added and subtracted.

So my question is, Why would they go to all the trouble to create another tangible currency when they could much easier institute a "Credit System"? And such a system would make it much easier for a government to track the activities of its citizens.

Just my

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Not surprising, but you seem to have missed my point completely. HUURRR

nah i undertand you think theres small time crooks everywhere... but im not referring to small time crooks.. Im talking about hardcore crooks working to empower themselves and only themselves and dont give a damn about you... But that you refuse to even consider because as you said, you dont want to live in fear... np

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

nah i undertand you think theres small time crooks everywhere... but im not referring to small time crooks.. Im talking about hardcore crooks working to empower themselves and only themselves and dont give a damn about you... But that you refuse to even consider because as you said, you dont want to live in fear... np

Here read the first sentence again with the most important part in bold for your convenience.

Originally Posted by me

Of course not there are crooks and bandits everywhere.

Power does not equal criminality. Most don't run for office to become criminal dictators.. but to do what they think is right.
If you believe otherwise you're completely and irreversibly paranoid and misanthropic.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Think about 2 years ago. If I told you the USA was going to be in the state it is in now, you would laugh at me.

2 years from now, maybe only 1, it is possible the Canadian currency goes belly up. It happened to Argentina. Why can't it happen to Canada? Who would have ever thought last year that the USA would be on the brink of financial collapse?

All I'm saying is, ANYTHING is possible. I would not put too much stock into thinking that there would be nothing in it for Canada. Today maybe not. But next year... who knows?

Well, for one thing, Canada is a sparsly populated resource rich country.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

why not? You think Harper wants none of it? You know alot about the subject? Its being pushed heavily by major American and Canadian Think Tanks.. like the fraser institute.. http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/1999/1...ncy991005.html

Harper has a minority goverment. He's one no confidence vote away from being out of power. Now having just won an election that's not going to happen any time soon, but turn the population against himself is suicide.

You have to understand that although Canada doesn't have a really strong national culture, all Canadians agree on one thing. That one thing is that we're not Americans.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

If you think that rolling back our economy to the 1900's, burying the US's head in the sand foriegn policy-wise, and allowing libertarianism to run wild is workable solution today you are sadly mistaken. You think corporations controlling the government is bad now? Hand the keys over to a paleo-conservative/libertarian and see what happens.

So you support Ron Paul and the exact opposite of what Ron Paul believes at the same time? Makes sense to me.

I posted three options that have presented. You said noone has put any options on the table. I know which option is the bad one. Ron Pauls isn't only logical solution presented. I also know the people that caused this mess are going to have a very big influence on which way we go. And if the masses aren't educated then we will be sent in the wrong direction. Just like we already have.

All you have to do is ask yourself two questions. Would we be doing the world better by blowing up buildings and killing people all over the place. Or do we use those people to build that perfect picturesque world you and most wish for us? I can tell you what my answer is and I can tel you what theirs is.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I posted three options that have presented. You said noone has put any options on the table.

No I didn't. I said no Conspiracy Theorists have. And when I say Conspiracy Theorists people like Berlisconi aren't who I have in mind. Not that I know much about his politics but anyway...

Originally Posted by you again

All you have to do is ask yourself two questions. Would we be doing the world better by blowing up buildings and killing people all over the place. Or do we use those people to build that perfect picturesque world you and most wish for us? I can tell you what my answer is and I can tel you what theirs is.

We are on the completely wrong track, That much I think we can be in complete agreement on.

[onwebcam]

You should look into it. After you do I'll tell you who made the plan.. This should be fun. That is if you don't figure it out in your research.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You should look into it. After you do I'll tell you who made the plan.. This should be fun. That sis if you don't figure it out in your research.

Lemme Guess. International Banker / Illuminati / Other shadowy boogeymen right?

I've heard it all before. You're not going to say anything I've not already seen.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Harper has a minority goverment. He's one no confidence vote away from being out of power. Now having just won an election that's not going to happen any time soon, but turn the population against himself is suicide.

You have to understand that although Canada doesn't have a really strong national culture, all Canadians agree on one thing. That one thing is that we're not Americans.

But it is the Liberals of Paul Martin who started this push toward a North American Union in 2005 with the introduction of Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America... This is not a Harper thing.. Of course this will be sold to the population as the only option possible, calamities will otherwise happen... The current financial meltdown will certainly help them make their case...

[onwebcam]

No you're wrong. Try again. If you don't know about something then how can you say its not the right way to go?

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

If you don't know about something then how can you say its not the right way to go?

Start making a point. I don't have all night to beat around the bush with you.