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Old 04-13-2009, 02:37 AM   #1
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Arlington, Va. -- Captain Richard Phillips is now safe and healthy aboard the USS Boxer after Navy Seals launched a rescue attempt that ended when snipers killed three pirates in three shots, all direct hits to the head.

Vice Admiral William Gortney, Commander of Navy's 5th Fleet, told journalists at the Pentagon Sunday evening a decision was made to take the shots after the pirates were spotted pointing an AK-47 into the back of Captain Phillips.

As soon as the shots were fired, Navy Seals "scurried down" a tow line attached to the lifeboat, and were the first to get to Phillips. They surveyed the scene and found three dead pirates. Phillips was alive, although tied up.

The fourth pirate, who is now in U.S. custody, left the lifeboat hours earlier with the understanding he would negotiate from on board the USS Bainbridge, the massive Navy destroyer that shadowed the lifeboat for several days.

It soon became clear the younger pirate was simply turning himself in and had no intention of going back to lifeboat, according to defense officials.

Shortly after the Seals reached Captain Phillips, a Navy RIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) approached the life boat and safely escorted Phillips back to the Bainbridge. He has since undergone a medical exam and had the chance to take a shower.

According to Admiral Gortney he's healthy and unharmed.

The scene got "tenuous" according to one official, shortly after the three pirates agreed to let the Bainbridge tow their boat. The sea conditions were worsening and the lifeboat was "floundering" before pirates acknowledged that by establishing a tow, it would be a smoother ride.

But sometime soon after the boats were hooked together, shots were fired from the lifeboat and the pirates were seen holding a gun to Captain Phillips back. Acting on a standing order from President Obama to move in when Phillips was in "imminent danger" snipers were ordered to fire.

They established clear head shots on all three pirates. One of the pirates was visible through the front window, and the other two were revealing their heads through the top hatch, presumably to get fresh air. It would be their last breath.

It was an extremely happy ending to a story that doesn't often end well. Just last week the French lost one hostage after their Navy raided a hijacked sailing yacht.

Admiral Gortney left with a warning that today's outcome could lead to more violence in future hijackings, perhaps in the form of retaliation for losing three of their own.
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amzing how 5 of em so easilly did what they did on such a massive ship , how they boarded and all that shit...
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Imagine sitting there in a boat all tied up when 3 heads explode next to you. Yeesh!

Do these pirates sail through some ripple in time or something?
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stupid question, are these pirates, just people that take ships, or do they have pirate swords, like captain hook
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stupid question, are these pirates, just people that take ships, or do they have pirate swords, like captain hook
Somali fishermen with AK's and RPG's.
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i don't understand how pirates can take over such a massive ship.
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i don't understand how pirates can take over such a massive ship.
They have small, faster boats.
They have weapons, some of which could be dangerous even to a ship.
People on board such ships typically do not have weapons - something about safe passage rules and stuff.
Huge body of water everyone is using with way to many ships to protect even a majority from possible attack.
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What we need is a President with balls.

These pirates fired off mortals at plane with a US official on it, and then promised us that the United States is now "enemy number one". We should go in there with guns blazing and take over the country. Let it be known that if anyone fucks with the United States, well, their entire country will pay for it.
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What we need is a President with balls.

These pirates fired off mortals at plane with a US official on it, and then promised us that the United States is now "enemy number one". We should go in there with guns blazing and take over the country. Let it be known that if anyone fucks with the United States, well, their entire country will pay for it.
wonder what will happen to the 250 other people being held hostage now
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I like how these pirates are pissed off that something like this happened to them. What the fuck do they expect when they storm on ships and take hostages? Seriously. Now they are all butthurt and acting like the US did something fucked up.
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These pirates fired off mortals at plane with a US official on it, and then promised us that the United States is now "enemy number one". We should go in there with guns blazing and take over the country. Let it be known that if anyone fucks with the United States, well, their entire country will pay for it.
You do understand how idiotic that makes you sound right?
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You do understand how idiotic that makes you sound right?
ummm you're actually surprised by his comments? this wouldnt be the first comment that made him look like a complete fool.
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ummm you're actually surprised by his comments? this wouldnt be the first comment that made him look like a complete fool.
I do not have time to catch everyones idiotic responses in threads and I do not read every thread on GFY. I do not think he is a pattern idiot, whom I typically just ignore.
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i don't understand how pirates can take over such a massive ship.
i was thinking the same.... but they prob went in under cover of night and somehow grappeled on and climbed? the crew was small the ship was massive so they could have easily snuck on
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There was no other choice in this situation and it was handled the best it could, but when you hear the details, it's not as awesome as it sounds.

The pirates shot were 17 and 19 respectively. Their boat had totally lost power and they agreed to have the U.S. destroyer tow them back to calmer waters. The third pirate actually went aboard the destroyer to collect supplies and have a wound on his hand stitched up.

So basically two teen age pirates where shot while aboard a powerless boat while being towed by a U.S. destroyer.

These pirates were obviously clueless and had no military training, or any training whatsoever.

Like I said, there was no other way to handle this and the innocent hostage was secured alive so it was a victory. It's just the whole thing sort of feels hollow.

P.S. The reason the pirates can take over a big ship is because the captain and crew are told to not engage the pirates or fight the pirates in any way. That's also why they don't hire security or carry guns on the ships.

These pirates are bumbling idiots. During a recent ransom payment, several drowned when their tiny boat capsized while trying to pick up the money. The only reason they can hijack ships is because the crews have orders to not fight back.
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What we need is a President with balls.

These pirates fired off mortals at plane with a US official on it, and then promised us that the United States is now "enemy number one". We should go in there with guns blazing and take over the country. Let it be known that if anyone fucks with the United States, well, their entire country will pay for it.
We've tried it once. Cost us 19 lives, 2 helicopters, and an intense night of fighting that I cant forget no matter how hard I try. Hundreds and hundreds of Somalis killed. At least I got a nice collections of medals for it.

The sad thing is, we went there on a humanitarian mission to help them. Somalia has no government, its a state of anarchy and the one with the most guns is the leader for the moment. The pirates are thugs and there is no government backing them, and no government to stop them.
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P.S. The reason the pirates can take over a big ship is because the captain and crew are told to not engage the pirates or fight the pirates in any way. That's also why they don't hire security or carry guns on the ships...

These pirates are bumbling idiots...The only reason they can hijack ships is because the crews have orders to not fight back.
The ships are also massive and have a crew of 20 or so.
They are not really told not to engage the pirates, they do have water cannons they can attempt to use and have. They just are well people working on a ship and under the assorted international maritime laws/treaties/etc. are not allowed to be armed as ports do not allow in armed ships.

The pirates are about the same as the underage drug dealers we have in the US with gangs. They are young, uneducated, poor, take all of the risk, and are funded by others. Then of course they get to keep next to nothing in our terms (30 US a month is a lot in that country for many on the coast). So you just have assorted warlords taking advantage of the situations, in essence their country is very much like a US ghetto. Just on a much larger scale - take a few blocks out of Detroit or whatever shit hole location in the US and expand it to the size of their country.

Of course using the military to go in and take out the assorted warlords who are funding the pirates and controlling all of the assorted shit happening in that country would of course accomplish nothing more than a warm feeling for all of a few weeks before that vacuum was refilled by new warlords. We see how well it works here with how we deal with city gangs.

They will begin to adapt. The one that got the huge payoff was the insurance that this will only get worse - not blowing the skulls off of three pirates. Other countries and people showed them that what the were trying works at least some of the time, and now at least one tribe/clan/whatever has millions to work with and that buys a lot of poor ass kids who will risk everything along with a boat to put them in.
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There was no other choice in this situation and it was handled the best it could, but when you hear the details, it's not as awesome as it sounds.

The pirates shot were 17 and 19 respectively. Their boat had totally lost power and they agreed to have the U.S. destroyer tow them back to calmer waters. The third pirate actually went aboard the destroyer to collect supplies and have a wound on his hand stitched up.

So basically two teen age pirates where shot while aboard a powerless boat while being towed by a U.S. destroyer.

These pirates were obviously clueless and had no military training, or any training whatsoever.

Like I said, there was no other way to handle this and the innocent hostage was secured alive so it was a victory. It's just the whole thing sort of feels hollow.

P.S. The reason the pirates can take over a big ship is because the captain and crew are told to not engage the pirates or fight the pirates in any way. That's also why they don't hire security or carry guns on the ships.

These pirates are bumbling idiots. During a recent ransom payment, several drowned when their tiny boat capsized while trying to pick up the money. The only reason they can hijack ships is because the crews have orders to not fight back.
Most people don't seem to fully understand just what kind of people those pirates are.

Most of them are not evil, scheming criminal masterminds. They're young men living in abject poverty, on the brink of starvation, with zero options and no future.

Few people realize that piracy in Somalia started after the government collapsed and international companies started fishing and dumping waste illegally in Somalian waters, basically plundering the resources of people who had virtually nothing to start with. Somali fishing boats were actually destroyed by foreign fishermen because they didn't want any competition.
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These pirates fired off mortals at plane with a US official on it, and then promised us that the United States is now "enemy number one". We should go in there with guns blazing and take over the country. Let it be known that if anyone fucks with the United States, well, their entire country will pay for it.
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Ok.

wtf is this from?

omg. what movie is this from?
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:56 AM   #45
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Most people don't seem to fully understand just what kind of people those pirates are.

Most of them are not evil, scheming criminal masterminds. They're young men living in abject poverty, on the brink of starvation, with zero options and no future.

Few people realize that piracy in Somalia started after the government collapsed and international companies started fishing and dumping waste illegally in Somalian waters, basically plundering the resources of people who had virtually nothing to start with. Somali fishing boats were actually destroyed by foreign fishermen because they didn't want any competition.
glad you're so understanding

hope you're on the next ship
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:57 AM   #46
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Most people don't seem to fully understand just what kind of people those pirates are.

Most of them are not evil, scheming criminal masterminds. They're young men living in abject poverty, on the brink of starvation, with zero options and no future.
Agreed. But it doesn't make hi jacking boats OK. Unfortunately the consequences are high.

I don't know why people are getting all 'America Fuck Yeah!' over this. It's really sad that our highly trained and expensive military is being used to stop a bunch of teen age thugs on a car jacking spree
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:16 AM   #47
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Agreed. But it doesn't make hi jacking boats OK. Unfortunately the consequences are high.
I don't think people can afford to care anymore about whether something is "ok" or not if they don't have anything to eat, and no "ok" way to get out of their situation.

If your family was starving to death, would you just accept it and wait to die? Or would you choose to do something that is definitely both immoral and risky, but might just save your family?

And if you had to pick a target for kidnapping, wouldn't the people who have been dumping nuclear waste(!) on your shores for over a decade be at the very top of your list?
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:20 AM   #48
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:27 AM   #49
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Somali pirates hijack 4 ships, take 60 hostages

Somali pirates captured four more ships and took more than 60 crew members hostage in a brazen hijacking spree, while the American captain who escaped their grip planned to reunite with his crew and fly home Wednesday to the United States.

The latest seizures were the Lebanese-owned cargo ship MV Sea Horse, the Greek-managed bulk carrier MV Irene E.M. and two Egyptian fishing boats. Maritime officials said the Irene carried 21 to 23 Filipino crew and the International Maritime Bureau reported 36 fishermen, all believed to be Egyptian, on the two boats.

It was not known exactly how many crew the Sea Horse had, but a ship that size would probably need at least a dozen sailors.

NATO spokeswoman Shona Lowe said pirates in three or four speedboats captured the Sea Horse off Somalia's eastern coast on Tuesday -- an attack that came only hours after the Irene was seized in a rare overnight raid in the nearby Gulf of Aden.

The two Egyptian fishing boats were hijacked in the gulf off Somalia's northern coast but it was not clear if those attacks came Monday or Sunday.

The Gulf of Aden, which links the Suez Canal and the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean, is one of the world's busiest and most vital shipping lanes, crossed by over 20,000 ships each year. It has been at the center of the world's fight against piracy.

A flotilla of warships from nearly a dozen countries has patrolled the Gulf of Aden and nearby Indian Ocean waters for months. They have halted many attacks on ships this year, but say the area is so vast they can't stop all hijackin
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:28 PM   #50
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I don't think people can afford to care anymore about whether something is "ok" or not if they don't have anything to eat, and no "ok" way to get out of their situation.

If your family was starving to death, would you just accept it and wait to die? Or would you choose to do something that is definitely both immoral and risky, but might just save your family?

And if you had to pick a target for kidnapping, wouldn't the people who have been dumping nuclear waste(!) on your shores for over a decade be at the very top of your list?
I thought the Somali pirates lived like pimps when they're onshore. Anyway, that's what I read somewhere.

Your view is extremely left, and I think you'd be congratulating the trigger man if the captain of that ship was a family member.

No matter what the root cause of the pirates is, it doesn't mean we should just be nice to them. We should scuttle all of their ships to send a message.
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