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Old 12-01-2008, 08:27 AM   #1
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software for editing videos

hi,
whats the best (/easy & quick to use) software for basic video editing?

(Just small things, eg, bluring out parts of the image, adding text. nothing fancy. just need a bit more than i can do in windows movie maker)
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:34 AM   #3
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:06 AM   #4
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Yep, vegas. Their demo is 15 days I think so you can do it all free within that time. Personally I got the platinum pro pack. Excellent software.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:10 AM   #5
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i would take adobe premiere works great. i also use vegas but i had some problems with the output.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:44 AM   #6
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Another vote for Vegas. But be forewarned, blurring parts of video is not as easy as it would appear.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:05 AM   #7
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Sony Vegas is cheaper, but I prefer Adobe Premiere Pro. You can download trials of both and see which you like.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:21 AM   #8
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i could suggest to you is vegas
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:52 AM   #9
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guess it will be vegas...

but so many options...
Vegas Movie Studio 9 Platinum Pro Pack
Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Edition
Vegas Movie Studio
Vegas Pro

Are they all basically the same (just the studio/platinum ones more advanced features?)
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:03 AM   #10
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studio 12 from Pinnacle. As easy as it gets.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:17 AM   #11
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blurring out video isn't really "basic" editing but

How to Blur/Black-out Nudity using Virtualdub

Software used:
Virtualdub (1.7.2)
Filter: logoaway (v4.01)
Filter: logo
Filter: Fill
Avidemux (2.4)
Gimp (2.2)

Alternatives to consider before beginning:
* Clipping out the entire frames with corresponding audio.
* Maintaining audio with a black screen.
* Using the VD Zoom filter to zoom away from undesired images.

I. SET UP YOUR VIDEO SEGMENTS

Create folders: Final-edit, Edit(1-?), Post-edit(1-?)

A. Make an unedited copy (Virtualdub)
- Ctrl+O -> Original.avi
- File -> File Information == Note your codec settings
- Video -> Direct Stream Copy
* Mask the entire segment with edits.
- Save = Edit\Unedited.avi

B. Separate it into work segments (Virtualdub)
- Ctrl+O -> Edit\Unedited.avi
* Mask each segment and save each as Edit\01-(whatever)

Each blur area requires its own segment. Usually these will be defined by shots or revealing/covering movements. Each section with no editing also requires its own segment. For example I will separate the first camera shot as 01 for editing, I won't edit anything on the next camera shot or two and make it 02, I'll edit the next shot as 03 and the next shot as 04, and I'll split the last shot and won't edit the first part 05, but I will edit the middle part 06, but not the last part 07. Also, since the blocks are static, if there is a lot of movement, you may wish to segment the movement multiple times to limit the size of the block.

II. SET UP YOUR BLOCKING FILTER

OPTION 1 Blur rectangles (Virtualdub)
(Blur advantage, limited to rectangle, easy--my pick)

- Ctrl+O -> Edit\01.avi
- Video -> Full Processing Mode
* Video -> Filter -> Add -> logoaway
- Click "Show Preview"
* Define your box location:
- Modify "Logo Border Position" X = Left parameter, Y = Top Parameter
- Modify "Logo Border Size" X = Width, Y = Height

You will want to scroll through the video and adjust your rectangle so that it contains the blocked images as they move through the time frame.

OPTION 2 Solid color rectangles (Virtualdub)
(Traditional, easy)

- Ctrl+O -> 01.avi
- Video -> Full Processing Mode
* Video -> Filter -> Add -> fill
- In the lower left-hand corner select your color (typically black).
* Define your box location:
- Click on the each side of the display pane to drag vertical/horizontal parameters to the box.

You will want to scroll through the video and adjust your rectangle so that it contains the blocked images as they move through the time frame.

OPTION 3 Definable block space = solid or semi-transparent (Virtualdub, Avidemux, GIMP)
(Definable space, no blur available, requires detailed image manipulation)

Create an overlay image template: (Virtualdub or Avidemux)
- Ctrl+O -> 01.avi
- Virtualdub = Video -> Filter -> DeLogo (1.3.2) -> Show preview -> Scroll to image to block -> In the filter dialog, click "Save Frame" in the Analysis row. Cancel the filter.
Avidemux = Scroll to the the image to block. File -> Save -> Save BMP image/Save JPEG image.

If the object moves about you may want to take multiple snapshots.

Use the template to define an overlay image: (GIMP)
- Load your snapshot.
* If you made more than one snapshot. Use "File -> Open as Layer" to stack secondary snap shots on the first. "Ctrl+L" to open the Layer dialog. Reduce the opacity of the secondary layers so that you can see the movement path of the images to block.
* Layer -> New Layer -> Transparency
- Use the lasso to define your object.
- Use the paint bucket to fill it with the color you wish to overlay.

To make the overlay semi-transparent: (GIMP)
- Layer -> Transparency -> Color to Alpha (Click on the bar to select the alpha color)

Use this reference to determine what color value to set to alpha:
Fill color: Alpha color: Transparency:
Dark value - Light value = Very Dark Transparency
Light value - Lighter value = Dark Transparency
Dark value - Darker value = Light Transparency
Light value - Dark value = Very Light Transparency

You may need to go back and change your fill color a few times.
You can also duplicate the transparency layer to darken it further or change the opacity in the Layers dialog to make it more transparent.

Finalizing the overlay image: (GIMP)
- Using the Layers dialog, delete your snapshot layer(s).
- Shift+Ctrl+S -> Select file type (By Extension) -> tga

Overlay the image: (Virtualdub)
- Ctrl+O -> 01.avi
- Video -> Full Processing Mode
* Video -> Filter -> logo
- Logo image -> Select your overlay image
- Check the "Enable per-pixel alpha blending..."
- "Show Preview" to verify it looks like you want it.


***** SAVE THE SEGMENT (Virtualdub)

- Video -> Compression
If you have space, select Uncompressed (we'll compress later).
If you don't have space, select and configure the codec to the original file's settings.

- Audio -> No audio (we'll add it in at the end)

- Save all the modified segments with the same name in \Post-edit\ Folder.


III. COMBINING SEGMENTS

Combining Video (Virtualdub)
- Once you have all the segments completed, move the unmodified segments into \Post-edit\ Folder.
- Ctrl+O -> Post-edit\01.avi
- File -> Append Avi segment -> Post-edit\02.avi
- Virtualdub will also automatically add on Post-edit\03-?? as long as there is no interruption in the numbering.
- If you already compressed to save space Video -> Direct Stream Copying
If you had space and it's all uncompressed Video -> Compression = Select and configure the codec according to the original file settings.
- Ctrl+Shift+S -> Final-edit\02.avi (Additional edits will continue in even numbers.)
* If you wish to use this edited portion by itself, skip ahead to follow the Restoring Audio steps using the "Unedited.avi".


IV. PUTTING EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER

Make pre- and post- sections in a \Final-Edit\ Folder (Virtualdub)

- Video -> Direct Stream Copying
- Ctrl+O -> Original.avi
* Mask the everything before the edit.
- F7 -> Final-edit\01.avi
* Mask the everything after the edit (or before the next edit).
- F7 -> Final-edit\03.avi

If there are multiple edits, the unmodifed intra-sections and final unmodified section will follow using odd numbering.

Combing Final Video (Virtualdub)

- Ctrl+O -> Final-edit\01.avi
* File -> Append Avi segment -> Final-edit\02.avi
- Virtualdub will also automatically add on Final-edit\03-?? as long as there is no interruption in the numbering.
- F7 -> Final-Edit-no-audio.avi

Restoring Audio (Avidemux)
- Make sure Audio drop down box on the left says "Copy"
- Ctrl+O -> Original.avi
- Ctrl+Alt+S -> Original audio.mp3 (or ac3)
- Ctrl+O -> Final-Edit-no-audio.avi
- Audio -> Main Track -> Audio Source -> External MP3 (or AC3)
- External file -> Original audio.mp3 (or ac3)
- Make sure Video drop down box on the left says "Copy"
- Save -> Original Edited.avi

If you are modifying the length of any of the edited portions, you should use "source audio" for pre- post- unedited sections.
Then skip "Combining Final Video" and do the "Restoring Audio" procedure above on each "Unedited.avi" and restore it to each of the finished edited sections.
You can then follow the "Combining Final Video" procedure to finish up.
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Old 12-02-2008, 05:40 AM   #12
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I thought it would be a *lot* easier than that :P. I was imagining just dragging a box.

i'll have a play. doesn't look too hard, just a bit of a pain to do lol.

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Old 12-02-2008, 06:11 AM   #13
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nice find smokey
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:12 AM   #14
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I thought it would be a *lot* easier than that :P. I was imagining just dragging a box.

i'll have a play. doesn't look too hard, just a bit of a pain to do lol.

cheers
blurring in vegas is nowhere near as hard as Smokey's method. By comparison it's a cake walk.
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