ha ha ha, Porn sluts complaining about new girls flooding the industry

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

and driving "wages" down

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Gettin in the biz
Current mood: aggravated

ok, so its annoying enough that every other day I get an email about 'how do i get in the biz'. OMG, stop writing me to ask that stupid question!!!! do your research yourself, go see an agent. Read AVN for a list of agents. FUCK! leave me alone!!!! I dont have time for that shit.

And now is really not the best time to be entering the industry. Its dead, the economy is fucked in general, what makes you think you can come in and ruin it for everyone else, by accepting half of the going rate - thank you dumb bitches for totally screwing it for the old school girls who actually have some business sense - and know when they're being totally degraded and chewed up and spit out with little to show for it. Not to mention the brand new porn girls taking away the meaning of the word 'feature dancer' by taking gigs for an 8th of a 'real' pornstars' rate.

I know times are tough, but lets not get crazy and just start giving away ourselves for nothing! This is a business like any other business, and it's such a shame we will never have a union like SAG to protect us.

Moral of this story, dont fucking ask me how to get in the business - especially dont join my pornstars for planet earth page to ask me such questions. And all you new talent, stop lowering your standards. We are all worth far more than what we get. And for you to go way lower than what was once considered standard, your just turning this industry into trash like the whole world already thinks it is. And you my friends, are trash, for letting people take advantage of you like that.

[_Richard_]

isn't that a forum link?

[kristin]

That's funny ...

[Sly]

LOL. A union like SAG... LOL. And where would that money come from?

[SmokeyTheBear]

i bet she was on the rag when she wrote that.

She gets mad that people ask her how to get in the biz , then blasts them for not doing research.. umm i think thats what they were doing when they asked you.

Heres an idea if she reads this, maybe if things aren't going so well she should use her anger for profit. Teach other girls how to get into porn, or just write out an article about why not to get into porn and copy and paste it to all those annoying bitches who are undercutting you.

[bobby666]

that's right mr.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i bet she was on the rag when she wrote that.

She gets mad that people ask her how to get in the biz , then blasts them for not doing research.. umm i think thats what they were doing when they asked you.

Heres an idea if she reads this, maybe if things aren't going so well she should use her anger for profit. Teach other girls how to get into porn, or just write out an article about why not to get into porn and copy and paste it to all those annoying bitches who are undercutting you.

Yep. and not to mention that people are getting tired of seeing the same shit every fucking place.

Anal girls DVD All the same girls
BIG TITS DVD 50% of the same girls
hardcoreDVD all the same girls.

And over and over and over. On one site they are a houswife on the next a Model trying to break into the biz, on anohter they are bosses of a large company that need cock and it goes on and on.

Its about time the industry realizes that they need some new faces. And why NOT save some cash at the same time.

[Kudles]

Dumb suts!!!

[JP-pornshooter]

monica mayhem..
i guess she forgot how easy she has it.. get laid 3 or 4 times each week and make $200k a year.. how terrible.

[Kelli58]

I seen that on one of the gossip sites a few days about Monica Mayhem and how she complains a lot. I think it was LukeisBack.com that was talking about it.

[Feynman]

This is an eloquent example of economic theory in action. Offer and demand sets the exact/true market value of any given product.

The original write is, of course, absolutely wrong. The value of the service they offer is not higher than, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL, the lowest bid for it. If by "we are all worth far more than what we get", she means economic value, she is dead wrong. If she means that the cost of partaking in that industry is too high for the return she gets, it's her judgment call, she just has to exit the market if she is not happy with it. Apparently, it seems that many do not share her opinion, and thus deeply undercut her rates.

Fifteen years ago, a mere titty pic would earn you a fortune. Today, taking into account the volume of material already produced that can easily be reused and the greater acceptability of the trade, the average market value of the typical piece of product has fallen dramatically.

There are only two ways to change that: either to cartelize the business or to make it illegal. The diamond industry succeeded at the former, the recreational drugs industry succeeded at the latter.

Cartelizing the industry is impossible to achieve for an information-based product that gets transacted via the internet where everyone and their 15 y.o. brother can launch an operation.

Making it illegal makes it hugely profitable, but also very risky for the non-connected which becomes the cannon fodder of the police industry, and changes the demographic of the people operating within. I am not sure most people presently in the industry would enjoy that. And again, because our industry is information-based and travels cross-jurisdiction, making it illegal will not bring the profit expected.

If the IP-tracing anonymity-denying scheme that is presently pushed by the U.N, helped by the U.S. NSA and China (strange bedfellows proving once more that most of Earth's governments are stealth dictatures), come into effect, the newly dictatorial clamp on the technology will make it possible to re-criminalize porn effectively and restore legal-risk-induced high profit margins.

I don't claim to understand the finer details, but the profit motive of your Telcos corporation is probably the main counterbalancing force preventing the politicians to jump in on the illegal porn racket. Be kind to your telcos, they might be your only truly powerful friends, the last guardians of some of your few remaining freedoms...

The US govt made the mistake to repeal prohibition in the thirties, and thus killed a golden goose. They are not about to do that mistake again with drugs, and would grasp at the first occasion of creating a similar high-profit racket in other fields.

[Kevin Marx]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Yep. and not to mention that people are getting tired of seeing the same shit every fucking place.

Anal girls DVD All the same girls
BIG TITS DVD 50% of the same girls
hardcoreDVD all the same girls.

And over and over and over. On one site they are a houswife on the next a Model trying to break into the biz, on anohter they are bosses of a large company that need cock and it goes on and on.

Its about time the industry realizes that they need some new faces. And why NOT save some cash at the same time.

agreed. Any time I can save money, I am happy to do it. If I can get the same quality for less then why not? A fucking union would be crazy.....

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

monica mayhem..
i guess she forgot how easy she has it.. get laid 3 or 4 times each week and make $200k a year.. how terrible.

I get laid 3-4 times a week, but I am paying for it.... what am I doing wrong? LOL

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i bet she was on the rag when she wrote that.

She gets mad that people ask her how to get in the biz , then blasts them for not doing research.. umm i think thats what they were doing when they asked you.

Heres an idea if she reads this, maybe if things aren't going so well she should use her anger for profit. Teach other girls how to get into porn, or just write out an article about why not to get into porn and copy and paste it to all those annoying bitches who are undercutting you.

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit. Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit. Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

Careful that timesucking dipshit may be the next owner of most of the programs on the web. Some people just need a little push, and then it starts to click.

[tony286]

hard times people will go price shopping.

[Persius]

lol thats a good one

[LisaWP]

Next thing you know, a high price call girl will write a blog bitching about street walkers and their $25 blowjob bringing down the wages for all working girls.

Porn Union? Bring in the scabs.....

LOL That was a poor choice of words

Scabs & vaginas are NOT two great tastes that taste great together

[mvee]

Originally Posted by LisaWP

Next thing you know, a high price call girl will write a blog bitching about street walkers and their $25 blowjob bringing down the wages for all working girls.

Porn Union? Bring in the scabs.....

LOL That was a poor choice of words

Scabs & vaginas are NOT two great tastes that taste great together

gross..

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit. Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

Spoon feed a business plan? Here, I'll give it away to anyone who wants it for free:

1. Have a Vagina.
2. Sell use of that Vagina.

Business plan done.

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Careful that timesucking dipshit may be the next owner of most of the programs on the web. Some people just need a little push, and then it starts to click.

Do you really think so? I seriously cannot imagine anyone with the potential to succeed writing an email to anyone asking "how can I do what you do?!" without bothering to take any initiative themselves first. But maybe you're right. Perhaps I should start writing emails like that myself.

[seeric]

pussy rules the world. its brought down entire countries and governments. people kill for it. people pay for it. if you got one and can't live a phat lifestyle, move somewhere to sell the pussy at a higher price. the world's full of places.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Biddy

Dumb suts!!!

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Spoon feed a business plan? Here, I'll give it away to anyone who wants it for free:

1. Have a Vagina.
2. Sell use of that Vagina.

Business plan done.

If it were as easy as that, all pornstars would have nice cars and pay their rent on time.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by kristin

That's funny ...

I am a bit surprised she would be that big of a bitch to people asking her how to get into the industry. If she wants them to not get used up and earn a good rate than she she point them in the right direction. I have had men and women ask me how to break in the industry and I give them a list of agencies to contact. No need to be rude to anyone asking for some advice.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit. Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

Ya know...I've read a few of your recent posts and it's clear to me that your attitude sucks ass. It seems that you think women in this industry are all victims or some bullshit like that.

Asking "how do I get into the business" is FAR from asking for a business plan. Most brand new girls have never heard of AVN and don't know shit about what is a real agency and what is a scam. All Monica has to do is refer them to an agency, collect her referral fee, then move the fuck on.

"How do I build a house?" is not the same as "How do I get into the house building business."

Read, comprehend, then STFU if you still don't get it.

[D Ghost]

nothin like a good hater

[FreeHugeMovies]

What Old Ass Scarlet was that?

[stev0]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit. Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

Business plan? lol. I'm sure she put a lot of effort and time educating herself on how to get pounded on camera. Essentially you're comparing a skilled tradesman to a prostitute

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Do you really think so? I seriously cannot imagine anyone with the potential to succeed writing an email to anyone asking "how can I do what you do?!" without bothering to take any initiative themselves first. But maybe you're right. Perhaps I should start writing emails like that myself.

Are you serious? People ask questions all the time when getting into a business... why would you not ask others how they got started? Yeh, you do need to take initiative and move on your own... but asking others for a little tidbit here and there is not such a bad thing.

Many very successful people in this industry today have asked incredibly "stupid" questions right here on GFY. I remember when hahaha was trying to figure out how to shoot content and was asking questions... LOL... that seemed to work okay for him.

[DAMNMAN]

Originally Posted by Sly

LOL. A union like SAG... LOL. And where would that money come from?

The porn union would be what? SCAG????

[Big Red Machine]

A recession will create alot more people willing to do porn.(for less $) People aren't going to care about the stigma when they are hungry.

[BradM]

Trixie is an extremely angry and bitter person - everyone knows that Aaron

[The Duck]

What do you expect.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Trixie

Just like writing to a contractor and asking "how do I build a house" would be fucking retarded.

yup because contractors dont build houses .

now if you asked a contractor how to get into the contracting business it would be perfectly reasonable .

Originally Posted by Trixie

Writing to someone and asking them to spoon feed you a business plan, etc. is NOT doing research, it's being a lazy-ass, timesucking dipshit

i agree, i didn't realise they asked to be spoon fed a business plan , i assumed they just wanted some pointers , mostly because the quote never said anything about being spoonfed anything , infact spoons were never mentioned. i believe the quote was "How do i get into the biz" , its something i am often asked and i often ask of others, and one of the first things i say is " it's not as easy as it sounds , you should probably start with doing some research on your own , then if you have some specific questions , i would be happy to answer them for you"

Perfect example. i asked a buddy the other day who is a repo guy the exact same question, not because i want to be a repo guy but more because i was curious about how they operate.

Anyways i think some people need to chill out a bit and relax, life shouldn't be so stressfull and angry.

[NE1469]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Ya know...I've read a few of your recent posts and it's clear to me that your attitude sucks ass. It seems that you think women in this industry are all victims or some bullshit like that.

Asking "how do I get into the business" is FAR from asking for a business plan. Most brand new girls have never heard of AVN and don't know shit about what is a real agency and what is a scam. All Monica has to do is refer them to an agency, collect her referral fee, then move the fuck on.

"How do I build a house?" is not the same as "How do I get into the house building business."

Read, comprehend, then STFU if you still don't get it.

Wow..you just described 90% of baddogs posts or threads.

[NaughtyRob]

The funny thing is I know a model that is 18, brand new, in LA right now booked fucking SOLID and booked all next month. It all depends on the girl.

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Ya know...I've read a few of your recent posts and it's clear to me that your attitude sucks ass. It seems that you think women in this industry are all victims or some bullshit like that.

Asking "how do I get into the business" is FAR from asking for a business plan. Most brand new girls have never heard of AVN and don't know shit about what is a real agency and what is a scam. All Monica has to do is refer them to an agency, collect her referral fee, then move the fuck on.

"How do I build a house?" is not the same as "How do I get into the house building business."

Read, comprehend, then STFU if you still don't get it.

You must not get as many stupid emails as I do or as as most women in this industry do who have more public personas. And anyone who can "read and comprehend" a morsel of what I post and believe would recognize that I would never say women in this industry are all victims so shut the fuck up yourself, fat ass.

Women aren't stupid bitches for not wanting to hold some clueless cunt's hand via email and show them the way to the money and they have every reason to complain about desperate whores selling it on the cheap.

It always fucking amazes me when some pompous fucknut on a board named "go fuck yourself" complains about someone's "bad attitude". Put me on ignore if you want me to STFU.

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

yup because contractors dont build houses .

now if you asked a contractor how to get into the contracting business it would be perfectly reasonable .


i agree, i didn't realise they asked to be spoon fed a business plan , i assumed they just wanted some pointers , mostly because the quote never said anything about being spoonfed anything , infact spoons were never mentioned. i believe the quote was "How do i get into the biz" , its something i am often asked and i often ask of others, and one of the first things i say is " it's not as easy as it sounds , you should probably start with doing some research on your own , then if you have some specific questions , i would be happy to answer them for you"

Perfect example. i asked a buddy the other day who is a repo guy the exact same question, not because i want to be a repo guy but more because i was curious about how they operate.

Anyways i think some people need to chill out a bit and relax, life shouldn't be so stressfull and angry.

Perhaps she was just ranting and didn't have time to mess around with the delightful nuances and subtleties you mentioned. Judging from context clues, I'm guessing she gets a lot of these types of emails from women acting helpless and dumb. But yeah, maybe in her case it's as easy as Aaron said where all she needs to do is direct her to an agency and I simply put my own spin and "bad attitude" on it based on the scads of emails I get from women who think I have time to tell them how to build their own porn sites.

Being curious about someone's job is one thing, especially if you're friends with them and face to face and want to learn more, but having strangers write to you asking for mommying is a different thing.

[fujiko]

Hardly see any new girls.. Its mostly always the same chix
Anyways, thanx for the post. itwas funny

[tony286]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If it were as easy as that, all pornstars would have nice cars and pay their rent on time.

I found girls in adult blow cash at a rate that is amazing. When I worked in the jack shack business I worked with a girl that made big bucks and it was all cash. The girl didnt do drugs or gamble but loved to shop. The first of every month she was complaining she couldnt pay her rent.

[alias]

Good post Feynman.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by WarChild

1. Have a Vagina.
2. Sell use of that Vagina.

Business plan done.

Don't forget Number 3 of course!

3. Profit!

[Voodoo]

Yeah... PornGod forbid new girls come in and drive talent prices back to a reasonable amount! PFFFFFFT!

[PornstarXS]

when did pussy become a commodity? god bless (if you believe in that god junk) these girls. but seriously whats that old line, now that we know what you are it's all about negotiating the price. a $2 whore is no better than a $2000 whore, no better than a whore who marries an old wizened bastard for his money. no pussy or cock is the holy grail (what i say about woman also goes for men, but in porn you'd have guys work for free because we're just stupid and horny lol). it's all about Adam Smith's 'invisible hand' (my elective history course in University of my useless architectural degree lol)

"The theory of the Invisible Hand states that if each consumer is allowed to choose freely what to buy and each producer is allowed to choose freely what to sell and how to produce it, the market will settle on a product distribution and prices that are beneficial to all the individual members of a community, and hence to the community as a whole. The reason for this is that greed will drive actors to beneficial behavior. Efficient methods of production will be adopted in order to maximize profits. Low prices will be charged in order to undercut competitors. Investors will invest in those industries that are most urgently needed to maximize returns, and withdraw capital from those that are less efficient in creating value."

the days of jenna jameson are over and any of these studios paying these pornstars big bucks for exclusive contracts end up being suckers. as much as men love some pretty chicks it's always about hey what's new in the neighborhood. now if these new girls will take it in the ass for $200 hey whose stopping them, maybe they like it in the ass and it's what makes them happy. then that's what the invisible hand has chosen, otherwise if the established pornstars dont have director boyfriends then you better be in hot demand. But that hot demand will eventually diminish. and forget about SAG or unions - unions make people lazy, there's no fear of competition - unions are what have killed industries like the automotive sector. They complain about the actresses undercutting their value, oh well, it happens with webmaster programs as well. You have one of the biggest affiliate programs creating tube sites and putting up their competition full length vids while monitoring their own content on other sites. you also have cam/dating sites supporting illegal tube sites, you have webmasters falling for $100 trial payouts while programs upsell up the wahzoo in their members area. what can you really do, you can waste your breath complaining but life isnt fair. you either get creative, work harder, work smarter, or charge less. isnt that what the invisible hand is all about?

thank you for shopping our quickie mart, come again

[NickB.]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Spoon feed a business plan? Here, I'll give it away to anyone who wants it for free:

1. Have a Vagina.
2. Sell use of that Vagina.

Business plan done.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

God damn thank for putting a massive smile on my face man

[Valkyria Studios]

Is it that time of the month ......

[andy83]

haha

[John-ACWM]

It seems it's raining sluts...

[jaYMan]

Originally Posted by tony404

I found girls in adult blow cash at a rate that is amazing

i can vouch for that =)

funny how quick a bitch is broke!
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