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Old 12-19-2008, 05:35 PM   #51
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Good luck getting it worked out. It looks like a speculative money grab.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:41 PM   #52
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Is he for sure?
Ill contact him. was it a similar situation?

Please people if you know of any stories or others with issue let me know. Either on this post or private via icq.

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Im trying to look all over this document to see where it would say anything about a termination fee and how they could possibly get it to equal $5,000.00
It also says if you tell them 45 days ahead of time the contract won't be renewed. But it renews every year. So if you signed up jan first of 03 then canceled 45 days ahead of the yearly renewal date they can't even charge you any fee at all.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:42 PM   #54
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Im trying to look all over this document to see where it would say anything about a termination fee and how they could possibly get it to equal $5,000.00
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if customer seeks to terminate prior to the full term, customer acknowledges and agrees that it shall pay jupiter the full vale of the term, calculated as the monthly recurring fees multiplied by the total months in the term.
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and they autorenew you for 12 months
and you have to give 45 days notice before the end of your previous term to stop the auto renew

seriously fucked up contract, but you agreed to pay them for the full year if you cancel anytime within that 45 days of that year.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:42 PM   #55
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Hope ya get it worked out Bone. Doesn't surprise me that some shady hosting company is trying to take you for money though - these are tough times buddy. Everybody whose hosting with Jupiter should keep an eye on this thread. Hopefully the powers to be won't delete it or ban you for starting it.... but ya' just never can tell with this crew
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:48 PM   #56
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I left them back in November... Gave notice and left.
I get a december bill along with November. I tell them Ive left again and close everything.. No servers or BW being used..

Then the next month January I get another bill.
Then Feb another. I tell them again. Ive left close and stop billing.

March I get another bill.

Not to mention this is for a 10mpbs P4 server at $696.00 a month
So its adding up. $ 4,649.49 to be exact..

I tell them im not going to pay this. We need to work something out. I have emails and copies of support tickets.

They say not only are you going to pay this, but we are going to charge you a FEE as well!

A $5,000.00 Termination fee.

So you owe us $9,000.00

Im thinking WTF. This is a fucking shakedown.
Shady collection agents call all the time...
I tell them to fuck off and this is not legit.

Now an attorney in my home town is wanting, or I should say threating to take me to court.

I say again, what the fuck?
assuming that you setup the contract in january 1
it all comes down to exactly what day in november did you cancel

after the 15 you missed the 45 day notification date and your hosting contract auto renewed and you own them a full years hosting fees plus the two months previous

before the 15th you got under the 45 day autorenewal , and you only owe them the two months that are covered by the 45 days notice.

that of course if you can prove you sent them written notice. and weather email constitutes written notice.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:03 PM   #61
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That's some shady shit right there, I'm so glad we never went with Jupiter when they hounded us for our business.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:12 PM   #62
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I am not sure why you are so worried. I would just not pay them. I doubt they pursue a lawsuit for that amount. It sounds like they are just shaking you down to me.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:18 PM   #63
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I helped build GFY. Some of you may doubt that but I did.

What I am doing here now my just get me banned.

But FUCK THEM..

And FUCK you if you want to sell me out over this.. My days at GFY may be limited if I speak out about this.

So if you want feel free to say your goodbyes to me now.

Fuck you if you think you can just shake ME down.
Do it. Fuck them. Someone rips you like that, fuck 'em.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:21 PM   #64
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BP I just sent you an icq, I was having problems with them too, they have a very difficult time reading and understanding English, we were in shitty situation and trying to deal with it, I would ask questions, or make statements but they'd basically say "Fuck you, pay me!" in a nice way without addressing any questions/concerns

Anywayys, I was with them, locked into their stupid contract also, and they were SHIT host since day 1 when I signed on with them, they made a LOT of false promises

I can support you if possible in ANY possible way about this, I even contacted the BBB in case they really expected me to pay them their bogus "termination fees", and hosting bills for shitty services
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:27 PM   #65
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god damn man... 5k termination fee? That's got to be illegal.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:27 PM   #66
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:27 PM   #67
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section d)

and they autorenew you for 12 months
and you have to give 45 days notice before the end of your previous term to stop the auto renew

seriously fucked up contract, but you agreed to pay them for the full year if you cancel anytime within that 45 days of that year.
This is why I read the fine print, when signing my name.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:37 PM   #68
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call your state BBB. Many states have passed laws against this kind of contract because cell phone companies were trying this crap.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:35 PM   #71
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I signed the contract on Oct 22, 2004.

Canceled in November.

They kept billing me for that month, the next and the next few after I canceled.

Then slapped on this Termination fee of 5k
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BP I just sent you an icq, I was having problems with them too, they have a very difficult time reading and understanding English, we were in shitty situation and trying to deal with it, I would ask questions, or make statements but they'd basically say "Fuck you, pay me!" in a nice way without addressing any questions/concerns

Anywayys, I was with them, locked into their stupid contract also, and they were SHIT host since day 1 when I signed on with them, they made a LOT of false promises

I can support you if possible in ANY possible way about this, I even contacted the BBB in case they really expected me to pay them their bogus "termination fees", and hosting bills for shitty services
I dont think you have my right icq man.
There was a fake boneprone hitting people up a few years ago with a bogus icq.

My icq is 66883099
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BP I just sent you an icq, I was having problems with them too, they have a very difficult time reading and understanding English, we were in shitty situation and trying to deal with it, I would ask questions, or make statements but they'd basically say "Fuck you, pay me!" in a nice way without addressing any questions/concerns

Anywayys, I was with them, locked into their stupid contract also, and they were SHIT host since day 1 when I signed on with them, they made a LOT of false promises

I can support you if possible in ANY possible way about this, I even contacted the BBB in case they really expected me to pay them their bogus "termination fees", and hosting bills for shitty services
So what ever happened?
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Its been over a year now. One year of dealing with the bullshit.

Now I have some local attorney trying to serve me to take me to court.
Why would they want to take it this far is beyond me.

I even wrote them trying to settle. Hell Ill pay to get this over with. But im not paying the shit termination fee. Like I said it was bad enough I was paying $696.00 for 10mpbs a shit P4 Server.

Ill pay two out of the four months they are trying to shake me for after I canceled. Thats it. Hell im even willing to pay up to four.

But they want more. Much more.
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So tell me people. This is the question.
I wonder if they can and will take me to court for this?

Also am I out of line here for not wanting to pay them? Pay them for hosting after I left.
Pay them a termination Fee that is $5000.00

I wonder if they honestly think this is legit. Or if this is just a shakedown.
Either way its disturbing.

Not sure what my next move is.

But I had to take this public.
Ive been dealing with this for 1 Year.
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likewhoa did this when they went under, tried to get money from people

After they shut down they still tried getting money?
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So tell me people. This is the question.
I wonder if they can and will take me to court for this?

Also am I out of line here for not wanting to pay them? Pay them for hosting after I left.
Pay them a termination Fee that is $5000.00

I wonder if they honestly think this is legit. Or if this is just a shakedown.
Either way its disturbing.

Not sure what my next move is.

But I had to take this public.
Ive been dealing with this for 1 Year.
that termination fee would be good for hookers
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3 years ago my friend "The Fly" was banned for speaking out about this company.

I didnt back him... Let him get banned from GFY. Granted the company was then owned by Ray and Lensman and I never had issue with them. I considered Lensman a friend. Truthfully I did. Now he may have never seen me as that but I did...

But now looking at this contract and if it is indeed legit and its them that got me in this shit, the old Jupiter and not this new Navisite with this SHIT contract then fuck. Im not sure what to say. Other than im disapointed.

I made a mistake in chosing my friends. I made a mistake not listening to others and The Fly and sticking by this company as they banned anyone who spoke out against them. I turned the other cheek and never gave any of these complaints a second thought. As many of you may being towards me right now.

I always had the highest respect for Both Ray and Lensman as well as all the Jupiter Crew. But im starting to question all that now if this contract is indeed legit and it was they that got me into this.

I hate to whine and bitch but I feel betrayed.

By everyone there.
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Im wondering if this "Attorney" that is sending me letters is really an Attorney or just some collection agent playing the shake down game.

Nevertheless he reprensents Navisite/Jupiter so I hold them responsible.
The letter you got would be from a collection attorney. They could possibly put a lien against your home or something like that. You need to immediately demand, IN WRITING, proof that you owe this debt to them. They may not still have the contract. If they can't provide proof then they can get fucked. Do not talk to them on the phone. Don't use email. Do it the old fashioned way and document everything. I would also kill this thread since you basically admit to owing them money and hope they didn't see it...

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The letter you got would be from a collection attorney. They could possibly put a lien against your home or something like that. You need to immediately demand, IN WRITING, proof that you owe this debt to them. Do not talk to them on the phone. Don't use email. Do it the old fashioned way and document everything. I would also kill this thread since you basically admit to owing them money and hope they didn't see it...
I dont admit I owe them.

I canceled the hosting. Left...

They tried billing me month after month after month after month after I left and told them multiple times I was gone and to stop.

Can and will this collection agent attorney go this far? Or does he just want to shake me down for a settlement on something he paid pennies on the dollar for?
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Yes, they sometimes file lawsuits for large amounts of money like this. You need to send them a letter telling them to prove you have this debt. You can probably find an example letter online somewhere and just fill in the blanks. Seriously though... kill this thread
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oh jesus... believe me I know about host/servers gettin ya by the balls. Mine almost fucked me big time... still working on it...

You, I believe, own you sites via registrars and solely getting possibly fucked by a hosting company... juniper. i read your documents and there is no way a judge will let that fly. Many states small claims are 10k or less... some 3k... either way... it is not worth their time.

I assume the entity does not exist any longer because you could also file complaints with the BBB.

Keep posting things like this and it will all work out... remember... don't pay a dime and it's still yours
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:29 PM   #89
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I honestly wouldn't worry. They are not going to find an attorney in your area and file suit against you over that amount and with no case. Tell the collection agency to stop contacting you. They are required by law to stop all correspondence.

It's just a desperate attempt by a company to hopefully nab a few bucks. Companies like this are usually in financial trouble. I would be surprised if they weren't out of business next year.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:34 PM   #90
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:35 PM   #91
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I honestly wouldn't worry. They are not going to find an attorney in your area and file suit against you over that amount and with no case. Tell the collection agency to stop contacting you. They are required by law to stop all correspondence.

It's just a desperate attempt by a company to hopefully nab a few bucks. Companies like this are usually in financial trouble. I would be surprised if they weren't out of business next year.

Its a real attorney in my area though.
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Holy fuck... $90 a meg? You should change your tagline to "More money than God" if you can afford hosting at $90 a meg. Good god.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:43 PM   #93
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Holy fuck... $90 a meg? You should change your tagline to "More money than God" if you can afford hosting at $90 a meg. Good god.
Yeah its not as if they didnt already make money off me.
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Can and will this collection agent attorney go this far? Or does he just want to shake me down for a settlement on something he paid pennies on the dollar for?
Oh and if you settle with the collection agency, you can kiss your credit rating good bye.
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Its a real attorney in my area though.
i'm tap dancin around a fucking registrar who can't communicate, respond via emails, tickets, etc. It's like they just completely disregard the english language... SERVAGE... that is.

Don't worry about attorney's calling you... i've had so many attorney's in the past and there is NO WAY they would call me over a couple K problem. YOURE gettin calls by some thugs...

File with BBB... https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx
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Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm

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3 years ago my friend "The Fly" was banned for speaking out about this company.
I remember The Fly - he was a cool cat. I never knew why he got banned but what your saying makes perfect sense. Doesn't surprise me a bit that Lens would ban someone for something as petty as this.
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i'm tap dancin around a fucking registrar who can't communicate, respond via emails, tickets, etc. It's like they just completely disregard the english language... SERVAGE... that is.

Don't worry about attorney's calling you... i've had so many attorney's in the past and there is NO WAY they would call me over a couple K problem. YOURE gettin calls by some thugs...

File with BBB... https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx
They are accusing me for $9,000.00

Not just chump change. I think some shit attorney may think they can get some cash on this.
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Its a real attorney in my area though.
they are hoping that you do nothing and they will get a default judgement against you...
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They are accusing me for $9,000.00

Not just chump change. I think some shit attorney may think they can get some cash on this.
file with the bbb man... 9K is small claims in many states... it doesn't matter though. File a complaint... 99% of companies settle immediately because its a big deal to have red flags
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