Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host.

Deal with the BBB after the matter is resolved if you want, but the first thing to do is use the template I gave you a link for and send off a letter to them. Send the letter registered mail too. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!

Yeah do this after sending them the letter though and don't post your contract on any more forums......

why not? sometimes u need to get some help from other people... i sure needed it. I'm talking SERVAGE indicated to me that I didn't own my site while it was down... that was my income...

This site, for me, helps out and alot of fuckin people listen... If I or anyone else gets screwed it should be heard...

I'm not talking about your specific situation here. I'm talking about the situation bonepro is in.

What day in November did you cancel?

Hope it gets resolved quickly.ridiculous

Boneprone,

Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.

I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

The first time I read it I thought it meant you can only cancel if you are upgrading.

really... i would take care of any complaint asap... maybe cause I just wanna have a good rep

After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT...

It was a shitty contract from the start.....


It was signed on October 22, 2004..
In the contract it says it auto renews Every year.

I canceled my hosting with them in November...

Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left.

This is what the legal part of the Contract says.

So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00

This is Bullshit............ How shady..............


Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this?

Fucking Jupiter....

Yeah thats what it means.

"Agreement shall renew automatically for successive one year term. "


I dont see a termination fee but they can charge for the remainder of the term left on the contract?

Which would be uhhhh,

$696.00 X 12 Months = About $9,000.00

Is this just common? It seems so shitty.

Regardless if you think you owe it or not if you take my advice you may end up not having to pay anything at all.

If I had canceled with them 3 weeks prior on a 10mpbs, $696.00 per month server it would have saved me $9,000.00

And a lot of headache.

Exactly.

Specifiacally other than stopping with this thread (which I will not) what was your advice?

I mean im being fucked here. I want it to be known. I stuck my reputation out for this company. Worked hard in helping build GFY and even Jupiters Reputation in the Adult Industry and now this happens.

The people who started this contract on me were the owners of GFY and Jupiter. Still are owners of GFY. Granted they arent the ones enforcing this contract's horseshit but they started it.

This just burns in every which way.

Fuck everyone. Really fuck Everyone.

Fuck the Old owners of Jupiter and Fuck Navisite..

Before im done im going to be sure the reputaion of this company is known.

You shouldn't pay a penny...

This advice:

for the amount of you sales you bought jupiter, this is how they say Thanks ...

Hit me up..I have some info that'll make your head spin.....

BBB is more powerable then you may think...

Just to let you know... I hear you and this forum is meant for threads like this

:2 cents:

Correct, and it doesn't take an attorney to administer it either. They could put a paralegal to the task.

Post it.

wow, good luck

Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

A lot of you guys are talking about defult judgement.
What is your suggestion for avoiding this?


I think I iwll be taking Ethersync's advice. Thank you.
He says:


"Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm
"

hey people! you dont have my icq i guess!

its 66883099

Someone else must be playing boneprone

Can someone please give me SuzzyQ's icq???

I never got your icq. I dont think you have my icq. Id like to hear what you have to say.

Boneprone, 424555637.. im on right now

oh jesus... again...

don't pay a dime... this is hitting home if ya know what i mean

Id be VERY surprised if they pay over 25.00, and probably down closer to 20.00 :2 cents:

Tell them you need proof that you owe them.. its that simple.. If they dont give it to you in 30 days, you pay nothing.. If they keep calling, writing, without giving proof, file harrasement charges.

This is a really shitty situation.

It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back.

Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth.

If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense.
If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving.

Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you.

Seriously dude you just need to chill out and talk to a lawyer.

I doubt a such contract is even legal, this kind of product devaluates a lot... you can get a 30mbits server for 200 a month now.

That's some fucked up shit yo

keep me qued in on this one... I wanna know the outcome.

Well it looks like 5k is for the remainder of the year.
The contract auto renews every october. I left in November.

So for the year its 12months X $697.00 = About $9,000.00

Thats how they get it.

You definitely need to take that contract to your attorney and let him/her look it over.

Even if you signed it, sometimes shit in contracts are so onerous that it voids the whole thing.
Either way, a phone call from a competent attorney might grease the wheels for a settlement of less than $9000, especially if it saves them from having to go to court and then pursue you via a collections agency.

Yeah, it sounds like they really care about the BBB's stamp of approval. When was the last time you checked with the BBB before using a service?

Im sure it is legal.

Its wrong, but its legal. Its a contract. I signed it and didnt read it. If I had I would have closed my server down 3 weeks earlier and would have saved $9,000.00

not about suzy... this whole fuckin bullshit about oweing money... this is my biz too

every time

Here is the process:

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/rebu...idationBig.gif

Go to the link below for more information. You might even want to get some advice there bonepro.

http://debt-consolidation-credit-rep...play.php?f=180

Really? What host are you using that is listed with the BBB?

There's another forum dedicated to webhosting, huge one. Most host out there have reps that post there. I've noticed most of the host out there will defend themselves if there's something bad posted about them there. Most webmasters probably know the forum I'm talking about. If you don't know give me your ICQ and I'll tell ya the url. You would be able to warn more people and might get more answers there...

not hosted there.. never was, but I called them yesterday to find out what the fuck they think they're doing hitting me multiple times from each ip in their subnet

I have read every fuckin post on this thread... I have also delt w/ host companies keeping my site for ransom... and still paying for it. You can always open a case if BBB doesn't have it on file... this is fucking bullshit and when this thread ends I hope boneprone gets justice... meaning...

NO more fucking contacts, emails, etc. to say he owes money. I've dealt with this bullshit and now will make it a priority that this shit happens no more.

BTW...

GFY is HOSTED at Jupiter Hosting.

FYI.