Serious Matter. Is anyone else being SHAKED down for THOUSANDS by Jupiter Hosting?? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

DeanCapture · 12-19-2008, 09:59 PM

Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host.

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

file with the bbb man... 9K is small claims in many states... it doesn't matter though. File a complaint... 99% of companies settle immediately because its a big deal to have red flags

Deal with the BBB after the matter is resolved if you want, but the first thing to do is use the template I gave you a link for and send off a letter to them. Send the letter registered mail too. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host.

Yeah do this after sending them the letter though and don't post your contract on any more forums......

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Yeah do this after sending them the letter though and don't post your contract on any more forums......

why not? sometimes u need to get some help from other people... i sure needed it. I'm talking SERVAGE indicated to me that I didn't own my site while it was down... that was my income...

This site, for me, helps out and alot of fuckin people listen... If I or anyone else gets screwed it should be heard...

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

why not? sometimes u need to get some help from other people... i sure needed it. I'm talking SERVAGE indicated to me that I didn't own my site while it was down... that was my income...

This site, for me, helps out and alot of fuckin people listen... If I or anyone else gets screwed it should be heard...

I'm not talking about your specific situation here. I'm talking about the situation bonepro is in.

baddog · 12-19-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

So tell me people. This is the question.
I wonder if they can and will take me to court for this?

What day in November did you cancel?

Spunky · 12-19-2008, 10:13 PM

Hope it gets resolved quickly.ridiculous

SuzzyQ · 12-19-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

Ok found the contract.
It was from 2004

Here are some parts i took a screen shot of.

Boneprone,

Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.

baddog · 12-19-2008, 10:17 PM

I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

baddog · 12-19-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Boneprone,

Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.

The first time I read it I thought it meant you can only cancel if you are upgrading.

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

really... i would take care of any complaint asap... maybe cause I just wanna have a good rep

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:21 PM

After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT...

It was a shitty contract from the start.....

It was signed on October 22, 2004..
In the contract it says it auto renews Every year.

I canceled my hosting with them in November...

Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left.

This is what the legal part of the Contract says.

So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00

This is Bullshit............ How shady..............

Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this?

Fucking Jupiter....

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Boneprone,

Paragraph 'C' is strange. Does it mean if you cancel your 'service', they can continue to charge you until THEY find someone who wants the same hosting setup you had?

If that is the case, that is totally fucked up.

Yeah thats what it means.

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:26 PM

"Agreement shall renew automatically for successive one year term. "

I dont see a termination fee but they can charge for the remainder of the term left on the contract?

Which would be uhhhh,

$696.00 X 12 Months = About $9,000.00

Is this just common? It seems so shitty.

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT...

It was a shitty contract from the start.....

It was signed on October 22, 2004..
In the contract it says it auto renews Every year.

I canceled my hosting with them in November...

Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left.

This is what the legal part of the Contract says.

So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00

This is Bullshit............ How shady..............

Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this?

Fucking Jupiter....

Regardless if you think you owe it or not if you take my advice you may end up not having to pay anything at all.

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:27 PM

If I had canceled with them 3 weeks prior on a 10mpbs, $696.00 per month server it would have saved me $9,000.00

And a lot of headache.

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

Exactly.

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Regardless if you think you owe it or not if you take my advice you may end up not having to pay anything at all.

Specifiacally other than stopping with this thread (which I will not) what was your advice?

I mean im being fucked here. I want it to be known. I stuck my reputation out for this company. Worked hard in helping build GFY and even Jupiters Reputation in the Adult Industry and now this happens.

The people who started this contract on me were the owners of GFY and Jupiter. Still are owners of GFY. Granted they arent the ones enforcing this contract's horseshit but they started it.

This just burns in every which way.

Fuck everyone. Really fuck Everyone.

Fuck the Old owners of Jupiter and Fuck Navisite..

Before im done im going to be sure the reputaion of this company is known.

Doctor Dre · 12-19-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Jesus Christ. I dont need this headache...

This all over miscommunication of shutting down a overpriced server?

I was even willing to pay for 2 months of it. Hell Id be willing to pay for the whole 4 months.. But I really shouldnt. This is a FUCKING SHAKE DOWN..

You cant put it any other way.

You shouldn't pay a penny...

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 10:37 PM

This advice:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm

GAMEFINEST · 12-19-2008, 10:38 PM

for the amount of you sales you bought jupiter, this is how they say Thanks ...

JC-OCCash · 12-19-2008, 10:40 PM

Hit me up..I have some info that'll make your head spin.....

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 10:41 PM

BBB is more powerable then you may think...

Just to let you know... I hear you and this forum is meant for threads like this

Drake · 12-19-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

they are hoping that you do nothing and they will get a default judgement against you...

Correct, and it doesn't take an attorney to administer it either. They could put a paralegal to the task.

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-OCCash

Hit me up..I have some info that'll make your head spin.....

Post it.

2012 · 12-19-2008, 10:50 PM

wow, good luck

SuzzyQ · 12-19-2008, 10:50 PM

Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:50 PM

A lot of you guys are talking about defult judgement.
What is your suggestion for avoiding this?

I think I iwll be taking Ethersync's advice. Thank you.
He says:

"Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem.....

Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm
"

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

hey people! you dont have my icq i guess!

its 66883099

Someone else must be playing boneprone

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It *MIGHT* be a loophole for you to work with....

Can someone please give me SuzzyQ's icq???

I never got your icq. I dont think you have my icq. Id like to hear what you have to say.

SuzzyQ · 12-19-2008, 11:01 PM

Boneprone, 424555637.. im on right now

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:11 PM

oh jesus... again...

don't pay a dime... this is hitting home if ya know what i mean

stickyfingerz · 12-19-2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

Yeah its not as if they didnt already make money off me.

Id be VERY surprised if they pay over 25.00, and probably down closer to 20.00

Puremeds-J · 12-19-2008, 11:13 PM

Tell them you need proof that you owe them.. its that simple.. If they dont give it to you in 30 days, you pay nothing.. If they keep calling, writing, without giving proof, file harrasement charges.

Snake Doctor · 12-19-2008, 11:19 PM

This is a really shitty situation.

It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back.

Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth.

If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense.
If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving.

Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you.

Doctor Dre · 12-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Seriously dude you just need to chill out and talk to a lawyer.

I doubt a such contract is even legal, this kind of product devaluates a lot... you can get a 30mbits server for 200 a month now.

BAKO · 12-19-2008, 11:24 PM

That's some fucked up shit yo

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

Can someone please give me SuzzyQ's icq???

I never got your icq. I dont think you have my icq. Id like to hear what you have to say.

keep me qued in on this one... I wanna know the outcome.

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

This is a really shitty situation.

It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back.

Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth.

If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense.
If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving.

Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you.

Well it looks like 5k is for the remainder of the year.
The contract auto renews every october. I left in November.

So for the year its 12months X $697.00 = About $9,000.00

Thats how they get it.

Snake Doctor · 12-19-2008, 11:26 PM

You definitely need to take that contract to your attorney and let him/her look it over.

Even if you signed it, sometimes shit in contracts are so onerous that it voids the whole thing.
Either way, a phone call from a competent attorney might grease the wheels for a settlement of less than $9000, especially if it saves them from having to go to court and then pursue you via a collections agency.

baddog · 12-19-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

really... i would take care of any complaint asap... maybe cause I just wanna have a good rep

Yeah, it sounds like they really care about the BBB's stamp of approval. When was the last time you checked with the BBB before using a service?

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Seriously dude you just need to chill out and talk to a lawyer.

I doubt a such contract is even legal, this kind of product devaluates a lot... you can get a 30mbits server for 200 a month now.

Im sure it is legal.

Its wrong, but its legal. Its a contract. I signed it and didnt read it. If I had I would have closed my server down 3 weeks earlier and would have saved $9,000.00

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

keep me qued in on this one... I wanna know the outcome.

not about suzy... this whole fuckin bullshit about oweing money... this is my biz too

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah, it sounds like they really care about the BBB's stamp of approval. When was the last time you checked with the BBB before using a service?

every time

Ethersync · 12-19-2008, 11:31 PM

Here is the process:

Go to the link below for more information. You might even want to get some advice there bonepro.

http://debt-consolidation-credit-rep...play.php?f=180

baddog · 12-19-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

every time

Really? What host are you using that is listed with the BBB?

cess · 12-19-2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

I mean im being fucked here. I want it to be known.

There's another forum dedicated to webhosting, huge one. Most host out there have reps that post there. I've noticed most of the host out there will defend themselves if there's something bad posted about them there. Most webmasters probably know the forum I'm talking about. If you don't know give me your ICQ and I'll tell ya the url. You would be able to warn more people and might get more answers there...

spacedog · 12-19-2008, 11:38 PM

not hosted there.. never was, but I called them yesterday to find out what the fuck they think they're doing hitting me multiple times from each ip in their subnet

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Really? What host are you using that is listed with the BBB?

I have read every fuckin post on this thread... I have also delt w/ host companies keeping my site for ransom... and still paying for it. You can always open a case if BBB doesn't have it on file... this is fucking bullshit and when this thread ends I hope boneprone gets justice... meaning...

NO more fucking contacts, emails, etc. to say he owes money. I've dealt with this bullshit and now will make it a priority that this shit happens no more.

BTW...

boneprone · 12-19-2008, 11:43 PM

GFY is HOSTED at Jupiter Hosting.

FYI.

12-19-2008, 09:59 PM	#101
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Bone - you should hit every single adult webmaster board that you can find and post about how Jupiter is trying to cheat you out of money and how difficult they are to do business with. If I were doing business with Jupiter, this would be enough for me to wanna find another host. __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

12-19-2008, 10:13 PM	#107
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,906	Hope it gets resolved quickly.ridiculous __________________ *Skype : Spunky GFY*

12-19-2008, 10:21 PM	#112
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,411	After talking to some friends of mine in the hosting biz, it looks like this IS LEGIT... It was a shitty contract from the start..... It was signed on October 22, 2004.. In the contract it says it auto renews Every year. I canceled my hosting with them in November... Which means I am responsible for paying the rest of the 12 months even though I left. This is what the legal part of the Contract says. So legally it looks like I owe them $9,000.00 This is Bullshit............ How shady.............. Ok. Now I need to find out what to do. Not sure if I can even fight this? Fucking Jupiter.... __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-19-2008, 10:26 PM	#114
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,411	"Agreement shall renew automatically for successive one year term. " I dont see a termination fee but they can charge for the remainder of the term left on the contract? Which would be uhhhh, $696.00 X 12 Months = About $9,000.00 Is this just common? It seems so shitty. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-19-2008, 10:27 PM	#116
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,411	If I had canceled with them 3 weeks prior on a 10mpbs, $696.00 per month server it would have saved me $9,000.00 And a lot of headache. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-19-2008, 10:17 PM	#109
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	I can't believe you guys are talking about the BBB like they have some kind of pull. The Boy Scouts would do you as much good.

12-19-2008, 10:38 PM	#121
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,380	for the amount of you sales you bought jupiter, this is how they say Thanks ... __________________ Compound interest.

12-19-2008, 10:40 PM	#122
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12-19-2008, 10:41 PM	#123
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	BBB is more powerable then you may think... Just to let you know... I hear you and this forum is meant for threads like this

12-19-2008, 10:50 PM	#126
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	wow, good luck __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

12-19-2008, 10:50 PM	#127
SuzzyQ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Along the shore. Posts: 1,557	Boneprone, I just sent you a message on ICQ.. It MIGHT be a loophole for you to work with....

12-19-2008, 10:50 PM	#128
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,411	A lot of you guys are talking about defult judgement. What is your suggestion for avoiding this? I think I iwll be taking Ethersync's advice. Thank you. He says: "Dispute the debt and make them furnish proof you owe this money. If they can not provide the proof, which is common, the entire matter is over with. No more stress, no hit on your credit report, no more problem..... Use the letter here: http://privacyrights.org/Letters/debt1.htm " __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-19-2008, 11:01 PM	#131
SuzzyQ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Along the shore. Posts: 1,557	Boneprone, 424555637.. im on right now

12-19-2008, 11:11 PM	#132
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	oh jesus... again... don't pay a dime... this is hitting home if ya know what i mean

12-19-2008, 11:13 PM	#134
Puremeds-J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Mountains of Washington State Posts: 939	Tell them you need proof that you owe them.. its that simple.. If they dont give it to you in 30 days, you pay nothing.. If they keep calling, writing, without giving proof, file harrasement charges. __________________ BiWeekly Payouts with no delay! - Now on NATS - $30 Per Trial - Check, Wire, Paxum! WE GOT AFRICAN MANGO! - Check out our New Reality Tour for CXPILL!

12-19-2008, 11:19 PM	#135
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	This is a really shitty situation. It's a really onerous contract, but Bone prolly didn't even read it before signing it because he trusted Lens and crew so much. They go way way back. Then Jupiter gets sold and the new owners are really milking that shit for all it's worth. If the termination fee added up to the number of months left on the contract....that being the one year auto extension of said contract, then that would make sense. If they're quoting you 5K even, then it sounds like they just pulled that out of their ass....or now want to charge you back rent on the server that was "comped" since you're leaving. Either way, these seem like pretty shylock tactics. For a $9K bill, you'd think one of the higher-ups in the company would call you up to explain everything to you. __________________ sig too big

12-19-2008, 11:24 PM	#137
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,368	That's some fucked up shit yo __________________ DatingNetwork.com Skype: Bako2323

12-19-2008, 11:26 PM	#140
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	You definitely need to take that contract to your attorney and let him/her look it over. Even if you signed it, sometimes shit in contracts are so onerous that it voids the whole thing. Either way, a phone call from a competent attorney might grease the wheels for a settlement of less than $9000, especially if it saves them from having to go to court and then pursue you via a collections agency. __________________ sig too big

12-19-2008, 11:31 PM	#145
Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	Here is the process: Go to the link below for more information. You might even want to get some advice there bonepro. http://debt-consolidation-credit-rep...play.php?f=180 Last edited by Ethersync; 12-19-2008 at 11:34 PM..

12-19-2008, 11:38 PM	#148
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,150	not hosted there.. never was, but I called them yesterday to find out what the fuck they think they're doing hitting me multiple times from each ip in their subnet

12-19-2008, 11:43 PM	#150
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,411	GFY is HOSTED at Jupiter Hosting. FYI. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.