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2012 · 12-19-2008, 09:57 AM

Deep Recession just like when it was a depression?

What's the difference between.
*Deep Recession
*Depression
*A Large Hole

Are you trying to tell us something Major Tom ?

baddog · 12-19-2008, 09:58 AM

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

DaddyHalbucks · 12-19-2008, 10:01 AM

It's because our business model of exporting jobs, forcing banks to make loans to people who cannot afford them, and paying people to do nothing finally caught up with us. It is unsustainable.

BradM · 12-19-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

I went to BJs in Cerritos last night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table. It was packed.

Fletch XXX · 12-19-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

forcing banks to make loans to people who cannot afford them

yeah ya know, those big bad guys FORCING banks to do things they don't want to do, big meanies!

2012 · 12-19-2008, 10:06 AM

there I go watching the news again

It just seems like they're gearing us up again for more bad news. Remember "We may be in a recession" for the longest time.

no more news for me

baddog · 12-19-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

I went to BJs in Cerritos last night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table. It was packed.

The next Applebee's? Never heard of it.

2012 · 12-19-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

I went to BJs in Cerritos last night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table. It was packed.

That's a bar also . I can understand that, especially right now

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The next Applebee's? Never heard of it.

its new they just opened one around here about 2 years ago(new)

Tom_PM · 12-19-2008, 10:59 AM

It's just newswhore drama I'm afraid to say.

They are looking at "markets" and "sectors" and such. Not exactly bread and soup line drama, but they tell it like it is.

Quagmire · 12-19-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

If the media keeps telling people something then maybe it will come true. They just love playing that stupid little fear game. What happened to Swine Flu? SARS? Bird Flu?

The media needs to focus on news, not editorial and opinion.

Barefootsies · 12-19-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

The media needs to focus on news, not editorial and opinion.

tranza · 12-19-2008, 11:43 AM

Drake · 12-19-2008, 11:46 AM

Yeah, the drama is getting tiring. What's worse, their incessant chirping about how bad things are is actually affecting buyer behavior from month to month. 2008 has been a crazy year, these last few months in particular.

iMind · 12-19-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

Well, when I can't afford groceries .. I often go out for dinner.
Strange as it sounds

Tom_PM · 12-19-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Yeah, the drama is getting tiring. What's worse, their incessant chirping about how bad things are is actually affecting buyer behavior from month to month. 2008 has been a crazy year, these last few months in particular.

Ya know thats what pisses me off too.

I saw (and complained about) news reports a week before thanksgiving saying that predictions showed it was going to be DOWN and black friday was going to be so bad.

And yet you BARELY saw reports that black friday sales were UP over last year, and people on average spent $25 MORE than last year on black friday.

BTW slightly off topic but this is exactly why I was so pissed that CNN etc. began their "Should Hillary Quit?" campaign on March 15th. And she won nearly everything else afterwards.. but the "question" never ended.. draw own conclusions.

andy83 · 12-19-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

Well, when I can't afford groceries .. I often go out for dinner.
Strange as it sounds

don't worry, i do that all the time

more because i don't cook and too lazy to buy/replenish groceries

KillerK · 12-19-2008, 01:14 PM

Lots of friends of mine are not getting Christmas bonuses this year nor raises next year. But they get to keep their job, so that's a plus I guess.

Lots and lots of layoffs, wait till Mid January and I bet we see a shitstorm of layoffs. She look at the auto people, they closed early and longer this year. We are hurting, you may not be cause you make $5 an hour posting on gfy all day.

baddog · 12-19-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iMind

Well, when I can't afford groceries .. I often go out for dinner.
Strange as it sounds

I am not talking about $5 Subway sandwiches.

crockett · 12-19-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

because they look at the beard and think you are homeless..

Z · 12-19-2008, 07:23 PM

The bottom is a long way off and nothing will ever be the same.

brandonstills · 12-19-2008, 07:59 PM

And yet traffic keeps getting worse and worse.

BlackCrayon · 12-19-2008, 08:30 PM

they just want to keep people paralized with fear glued to the tv. I'm sure they noticed their ratings spike when all of the economic news hit. Gotta keep that ball rolling.

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 08:37 PM

i think the recession to bypass the depression is now in the big 3... chrysler, ford, gm. With a bailout and they fail an entire city will be unemployed (and more)... that I think we would call worse then the great depression.

BTW... u posted songs when i needed help and just wanted to let u know it's still kicking for another year... host/registrars still have me by the balls but it's still makin the money.

tony286 · 12-19-2008, 08:42 PM

I went to my favorite steak house and the manager told me. Lunches are way up but dinners are way down. I think the media scares the shit out of people so they cut back in fear and it starts the cycle.

kane · 12-19-2008, 09:15 PM

I have had a theory for a while now that I will find out the truth about in the next month or so. I feel that the media hates Bush so much they are purposely hammering away on how bad the economy is just to make him look bad and drive down his approval ratings. I'm not Bush supporter. I think the republicans are heavily to blame for much of the problems we are seeing now. I'm not say this wouldn't have happened with the democrats in power, but it was the republicans in power and when the team does bad it is the coach that takes the blame.

Bush has been very standoffish with the press and he has had a pretty rough relationship with them. They don't like him and I think they like to see him in trouble. Black Friday sales were up, but all they could talk about is that people were only buying cheaper on sale stuff that had a lower profit margins. Other good indicators are starting to come forward, but they mention those briefly then go back to doom and gloom. The media is loving the misery and they are loving dumping it right in Bush's lap.

I think once Bush is gone and Obama takes office the talk will change. My theory is that they will still talk about the bad stuff, but the slant will dramatically change to a very Obama friendly version where they spend most of their time talking about what he is doing to fix the problems that Bush left us with and how things are moving forward.

I guess in about a month we will see if I am correct.

pocketkangaroo · 12-19-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

It's because our business model of exporting jobs, forcing banks to make loans to people who cannot afford them, and paying people to do nothing finally caught up with us. It is unsustainable.

Who forced banks to make loans and how did that put us in a recession?

pocketkangaroo · 12-19-2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

Deep Recession just like when it was a depression?

What's the difference between.
*Deep Recession
*Depression
*A Large Hole

Are you trying to tell us something Major Tom ?

There aren't really good definitions for each. Everyone has their own way. A recession I believe it two negative growth quarters. A depression is when you have a recession for a long time.

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:00 PM

Nope... no way my brother...

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Nope... no way my brother...

resoponse to Kanes theory... bullshit I say...

2012 · 12-19-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

resoponse to Kanes theory... bullshit I say...

more eggnog for youuuuuuuuu

2012 · 12-19-2008, 11:09 PM

We'll see I guess. Happy New Year

baddog · 12-19-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Who forced banks to make loans and how did that put us in a recession?

The Democrats.

bronco67 · 12-19-2008, 11:46 PM

Then why am I busier than ever?

Spunky · 12-19-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

Slip them a few bucks.they think older people don't tip

Redrob · 12-19-2008, 11:53 PM

Selling a house right now really sucks. I bought a new house and put my old one on the market last June. The house was totally redone with paint, carpet, solarization, kitchen, etc. Then I cut the price 20% and still no takers.

Sucks....cause banks won't loan money even if you have good credit record.

My banker says the folks that finance the loans are just sitting on their assets for now cause they think the economy is going to get worse....

Then they will just buy up your assets on the cheap and make a killing.

The sharks are circling.....

mmcfadden · 12-19-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

more eggnog for youuuuuuuuu

cheers my man

spacedog · 12-20-2008, 12:04 AM

we're not even close to a depression as far as I see..

any time I'm out I see people working, driving, eating, spending, buying..

We aren't anywhere close to the conditions of the 1930s other than banks closing and people being out of jobs... BUT.. we have more people now than we did then..

6M jobless during the 30s with only 80M citizens isn't the same as 6M jobless today with 300M citizens.. (just numbers as an example.,. those aren't the real statistics.. just saying.. it's something on that idea.)

JD · 12-20-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

I went to BJs in Cerritos last night and there was a 45 minute wait for a table. It was packed.

they just put one in my area... the food worth a damn?

d-null · 12-20-2008, 04:05 AM

give it a couple of years and just wait for the doomsday talk we will be hearing as we verge on the year 2012

baddog · 12-20-2008, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Selling a house right now really sucks. I bought a new house and put my old one on the market last June. The house was totally redone with paint, carpet, solarization, kitchen, etc. Then I cut the price 20% and still no takers.

Sucks....cause banks won't loan money even if you have good credit record.

My banker says the folks that finance the loans are just sitting on their assets for now cause they think the economy is going to get worse....

Then they will just buy up your assets on the cheap and make a killing.

The sharks are circling.....

That's why I am just going to knock mine down and put up something new here. Hopefully start next year.

12-19-2008, 09:57 AM	#1
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	they keep telling me "we are in DEEP Recession, worst since Depression" ... Deep Recession just like when it was a depression? What's the difference between. Deep Recession Depression *A Large Hole Are you trying to tell us something Major Tom ? __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

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DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	It's because our business model of exporting jobs, forcing banks to make loans to people who cannot afford them, and paying people to do nothing finally caught up with us. It is unsustainable. __________________ Boner Money

12-19-2008, 10:06 AM	#6
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	there I go watching the news again It just seems like they're gearing us up again for more bad news. Remember "We may be in a recession" for the longest time. no more news for me __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

12-19-2008, 10:59 AM	#9
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	It's just newswhore drama I'm afraid to say. They are looking at "markets" and "sectors" and such. Not exactly bread and soup line drama, but they tell it like it is. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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12-19-2008, 09:58 AM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	How come I can't get a seat right away at any restaurants?

12-19-2008, 11:46 AM	#13
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Yeah, the drama is getting tiring. What's worse, their incessant chirping about how bad things are is actually affecting buyer behavior from month to month. 2008 has been a crazy year, these last few months in particular.

12-19-2008, 01:14 PM	#17
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	Lots of friends of mine are not getting Christmas bonuses this year nor raises next year. But they get to keep their job, so that's a plus I guess. Lots and lots of layoffs, wait till Mid January and I bet we see a shitstorm of layoffs. She look at the auto people, they closed early and longer this year. We are hurting, you may not be cause you make $5 an hour posting on gfy all day.

12-19-2008, 07:23 PM	#20
Z Vidi Vici Veni Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,308	The bottom is a long way off and nothing will ever be the same.

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12-19-2008, 08:30 PM	#22
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	they just want to keep people paralized with fear glued to the tv. I'm sure they noticed their ratings spike when all of the economic news hit. Gotta keep that ball rolling. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

12-19-2008, 08:37 PM	#23
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	i think the recession to bypass the depression is now in the big 3... chrysler, ford, gm. With a bailout and they fail an entire city will be unemployed (and more)... that I think we would call worse then the great depression. BTW... u posted songs when i needed help and just wanted to let u know it's still kicking for another year... host/registrars still have me by the balls but it's still makin the money.

12-19-2008, 08:42 PM	#24
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I went to my favorite steak house and the manager told me. Lunches are way up but dinners are way down. I think the media scares the shit out of people so they cut back in fear and it starts the cycle.

12-19-2008, 09:15 PM	#25
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I have had a theory for a while now that I will find out the truth about in the next month or so. I feel that the media hates Bush so much they are purposely hammering away on how bad the economy is just to make him look bad and drive down his approval ratings. I'm not Bush supporter. I think the republicans are heavily to blame for much of the problems we are seeing now. I'm not say this wouldn't have happened with the democrats in power, but it was the republicans in power and when the team does bad it is the coach that takes the blame. Bush has been very standoffish with the press and he has had a pretty rough relationship with them. They don't like him and I think they like to see him in trouble. Black Friday sales were up, but all they could talk about is that people were only buying cheaper on sale stuff that had a lower profit margins. Other good indicators are starting to come forward, but they mention those briefly then go back to doom and gloom. The media is loving the misery and they are loving dumping it right in Bush's lap. I think once Bush is gone and Obama takes office the talk will change. My theory is that they will still talk about the bad stuff, but the slant will dramatically change to a very Obama friendly version where they spend most of their time talking about what he is doing to fix the problems that Bush left us with and how things are moving forward. I guess in about a month we will see if I am correct.

12-19-2008, 11:00 PM	#28
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	Nope... no way my brother...

12-19-2008, 11:09 PM	#31
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	We'll see I guess. Happy New Year __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

12-19-2008, 11:46 PM	#33
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Then why am I busier than ever? __________________

12-19-2008, 11:53 PM	#35
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Selling a house right now really sucks. I bought a new house and put my old one on the market last June. The house was totally redone with paint, carpet, solarization, kitchen, etc. Then I cut the price 20% and still no takers. Sucks....cause banks won't loan money even if you have good credit record. My banker says the folks that finance the loans are just sitting on their assets for now cause they think the economy is going to get worse.... Then they will just buy up your assets on the cheap and make a killing. The sharks are circling.....

12-20-2008, 12:04 AM	#37
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	we're not even close to a depression as far as I see.. any time I'm out I see people working, driving, eating, spending, buying.. We aren't anywhere close to the conditions of the 1930s other than banks closing and people being out of jobs... BUT.. we have more people now than we did then.. 6M jobless during the 30s with only 80M citizens isn't the same as 6M jobless today with 300M citizens.. (just numbers as an example.,. those aren't the real statistics.. just saying.. it's something on that idea.)

12-20-2008, 04:05 AM	#39
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	give it a couple of years and just wait for the doomsday talk we will be hearing as we verge on the year 2012 __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite