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psyko514 · 11-12-2002, 02:43 AM

So let me get this straight.
A content provider owns the copyright to the content and sells licenses for the content to webmasters, right?
What kind of licenses are there? What would you call a license that allows any type of use of the content?
thanks!

KRL · 11-12-2002, 02:47 AM

Most licenses have specific useage terms. For example, only so much can be used for this part of your site, can't be used in print advertising, etc.

It all starts with the models who sign a release relinquishing control of their image to the photographer who then can either sell the content outright to someone who has hired him to do the shoot, or he can have his own content site to license it out, or he can license it through a content broker.

railz · 11-12-2002, 02:48 AM

...and then the armed squirrel comes over and "collects" the money!

psyko514 · 11-12-2002, 02:55 AM

thanks... that's pretty much what i though...
now what would you call a license that allows any type of use (print, websites, etc)? A full license? Unlimited license?

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Most licenses have specific useage terms. For example, only so much can be used for this part of your site, can't be used in print advertising, etc.

It all starts with the models who sign a release relinquishing control of their image to the photographer who then can either sell the content outright to someone who has hired him to do the shoot, or he can have his own content site to license it out, or he can license it through a content broker.

psyko514 · 11-12-2002, 02:56 AM

another question...
if the photographer does not have the original photo or the negatives, how can he prove the picture is his? what if pic was taken with a digi/web cam?

(edit)
also, whoever holds the copyright the content ultimately decides how the content is used, right?

eru · 11-12-2002, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
another question...
if the photographer does not have the original photo or the negatives, how can he prove the picture is his? what if pic was taken with a digi/web cam?

(edit)
also, whoever holds the copyright the content ultimately decides how the content is used, right?

All your pics are belong to Kodak.

psyko514 · 11-12-2002, 03:48 AM

answer me damnit!

i mean "BUMP"

KRL · 11-12-2002, 04:13 AM

That's the problem with proving who owns the rights now that we live in a digital world. In the old days whoever had the negatives and chromes you knew pretty much was your man. Now with all the digital stuff there is no way to tell except seeing the original model releases, and such.

Its a really, really big problem with ownership. I've had incidents where we bought content and had photographers claim it was theirs when it wasn't. There was a guy a few years back that was sending out e-mails to tons of webmasters threatening lawsuits if they didn't pay him a license fee. Some webmasters fell for the scam and paid this fucker. He knew if he sent out a zillion e-mails someone would fall for it and they did.

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psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	another question... if the photographer does not have the original photo or the negatives, how can he prove the picture is his? what if pic was taken with a digi/web cam? (edit) also, whoever holds the copyright the content ultimately decides how the content is used, right? Last edited by psyko514; 11-12-2002 at 03:02 AM..

11-12-2002, 02:47 AM	#2
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Most licenses have specific useage terms. For example, only so much can be used for this part of your site, can't be used in print advertising, etc. It all starts with the models who sign a release relinquishing control of their image to the photographer who then can either sell the content outright to someone who has hired him to do the shoot, or he can have his own content site to license it out, or he can license it through a content broker.

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psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	answer me damnit! i mean "BUMP"

11-12-2002, 04:13 AM	#8
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	That's the problem with proving who owns the rights now that we live in a digital world. In the old days whoever had the negatives and chromes you knew pretty much was your man. Now with all the digital stuff there is no way to tell except seeing the original model releases, and such. Its a really, really big problem with ownership. I've had incidents where we bought content and had photographers claim it was theirs when it wasn't. There was a guy a few years back that was sending out e-mails to tons of webmasters threatening lawsuits if they didn't pay him a license fee. Some webmasters fell for the scam and paid this fucker. He knew if he sent out a zillion e-mails someone would fall for it and they did.