How can exclusive content look this shitty

[mmcfadden]

An 8mm tape taken two weeks ago looks like this in original format...

http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

WTF is that?

[hominid4]

Hot chick with a beautiful ass though!!

[Va2k]

Shit for lighting, and by better tape lol

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Fungus

Shit for lighting, and by better tape lol

even in bad lighting... trying to figure out how a tape could look like this. It was sent to me as exclusive...

I've got vids from the mid 90's that don't look this bad

[jakethedog]

phone camera .. ?? lol .

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by jakethedog

phone camera .. ?? lol .

then transferred to 8mm tape?

[Va2k]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

even in bad lighting... trying to figure out how a tape could look like this. It was sent to me as exclusive...

I've got vids from the mid 90's that don't look this bad

My mother had a 8mm and she dropped it, it would record but ya know what, it kind of looks like the tape you got..

[NaughtyRob]

Very dark and very shitty. HOT girl, its too bad.

[donnylong]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

An 8mm tape taken two weeks ago looks like this in original format...

http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

WTF is that?

looks like you need to try some of my stuff!!! see sig!

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Fungus

My mother had a 8mm and she dropped it, it would record but ya know what, it kind of looks like the tape you got..

that's what I was thinking... the guy who gave me this has come to my house 3 times prior. I want to believe he didn't fuck me... but he got all the money prior... needed a wire transfer after a check was mailed. Sent the wire and he fucking cashed my check as well... he's got 16 hours to make things right.

[tony286]

dirty heads

[Jim_Gunn]

Terrible. Even an amateur can do better with a consumer Handycam and an open window.

[rowan]

Is it your end capturing the video from camcorder to PC or did he provide it as a rendered digital file? If you're the one doing the capturing, try cleaning your heads. If he's the one that provided it then you're probably out of luck, unless he was using a separate deck to capture... otherwise, he'll have to redo it from scratch.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Sent the wire and he fucking cashed my check as well... he's got 16 hours to make things right.

Wow, just re-read this bit and it clicked.

Looks like you may have more on your hands than just dirty heads.

[mmcfadden]

just sent this thread to him... i've had some shitty luck lately and this doesn't top it...

[pornask]

that snatch looks fucking nasty. Skank should do something about that...

[Jim_Gunn]

I don't know why people are mentioning dirty heads. It looks to me like the video was shot in a very dimly lit room and it's just dark and murky as a result.

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I don't know why people are mentioning dirty heads. It looks to me like the video was shot in a very dimly lit room and it's just dark and murky as a result.

This is in part why I started this thread...

I got two tapes... different girls... different scenes. It's not the lighting... maybe the camera...

[Barefootsies]

Lemme see...

1. Bad heads on camcorder or something needs to be cleaned.
2. Hard light. Blue gels needed. Plus more lights.
3. Looks like a pretty girl wearing shoes, damn shame, and 80's heels at that.
4. Worst encoding ever?

I dunno. Hard to tell in this single clip where one thing ends, and the other begins. Could be a number of different issues.

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Lemme see...

1. Bad heads on camcorder or something needs to be cleaned.
2. Hard light. Blue gels needed. Plus more lights.
3. Looks like a pretty girl wearing shoes, damn shame, and 80's heels at that.
4. Worst encoding ever?

I dunno. Hard to tell in this single clip where one thing ends, and the other begins. Could be a number of different issues.

Try this... I'll let you guys no tomorrow though

"I left you a message. I don't know why the quality is so bad and why the
vids are not what we talked of. ie Kira Kiss is getting filmed by someone
else... I didn't copy the entire tape... just wanted to show you the
quality.

You're not responding to calls and im in the dark. So the deal is
tomorrow I want $1700 money order sent to me... with the tracking number
from fed ex. Email me the number.

No more excuses... Ive always been upfront and wired money when you
needed... only to get screwed by it. I'm not waiting past tomorrow man
and like I said on the message the shit is going to hit the fan.

If you are straight up you'd call me the second you read this.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: vids don't work
From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, December 17, 2008 2:03 pm
To: not showing for now
Cc: [email protected]
[email protected]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Phil,

I'm getting to the end of my patience... you have received through wire
and checks

$330
$660
$660 double dip (which I want back immediately)

To top it off Phil, the vids are no good. I took them to a video convert
store and they tried the tapes in three different cameras and all gave the
same shit result. Now I don't know if YOUR camera plays the tapes fine
and YOUR camera needs to upload it to a computer but again... I nor a
professional electronic video store has the ability to do it.

See...

http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv
http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/P...on_Brookes.wmv

First off... 8mm tapes were out the door long ago and both quality and
complete inconvenience in getting that information sucks. We have worked
in the past and am surprised at the events that have led up to this email.

In summary... you have $1650 of my money and I have absolutely nothing
usable.

Firstly, I want the $660 back right now... I will not tolerate an excuse
that your GF will come back and work it out. You are the man and YOU get
me a money order immediately.

Address is...
XXX

Then... we need to work out the other 1K. This is not a fucking joke man,
alot of money, and I have shit except wasted time and a headache.

Do right man,

Unhappy,
Mike"

[Iron Fist]

Stop carrying magnets when your transporting tapes!

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Unhappy,
Mike"

RU Mike McFadden?

[NaughtyRob]

Wow dude. I'll get busy shooting some stuff, we talked before.

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Wow dude. I'll get busy shooting some stuff, we talked before.

i know we did... i'm about to say fuck to my ishot content... have enough for a couple months. I need vstrip content and apparently my boy is taking off...

[viencarl]

The girl is hot but the quality really sucks

[wtfent]

You know what i'd really like to see porn movies shot in Hi 8 or 8MM, you must admit it really gives you that home made tape feeling that your not supposed to be watching.

[v4 media]

If you're handing over $1700, tell him to buy a new camera and rent some lights.

[SteveHardeman]

Wow, that is really bad. At least you won't have to worry about the stolen content ex-gf sites stealing it. Even they wouldn't want it.

[EscortBiz]

has to be a fuck up in the capture or something

[Penny24Seven]

I would worry about the girl and why she will not sit still for more then 6 seconds LOL,

[sinclair]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

An 8mm tape taken two weeks ago looks like this in original format...

http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

WTF is that?

That sir, would be a really bad lighting job, shot on a really bad tape, on a very old video camera.

[nickey1952]

cause the people you hire suck,

[Peter Romero]

Sorry man, but I find it hilarious that people skimp on the price of content and argue to no end that quality work is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive and this is what you get for a discount. Come to me if you want bad ass shit done. See sig for examples.

This guy didn't even have lights.

[TiaLing]

Well ..... My archived webcam shows look better than that .... lol .... tia

[pornguy]

Tooo bad, cause the chick is smokin.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I don't know why people are mentioning dirty heads. It looks to me like the video was shot in a very dimly lit room and it's just dark and murky as a result.

I recognised the momentary flashes of coloured squares which I believe are dropouts, and when there's motion there's a strange striped effect.

Obviously there are other issues such as the lighting but that was the obvious technical flaw I could see. Low light may be somewhat fixable, but if it was recorded with dirty heads or some other type of camera fault then it's a dead loss.

[Peter Romero]

Originally Posted by rowan

I recognised the momentary flashes of coloured squares which I believe are dropouts, and when there's motion there's a strange striped effect.

Obviously there are other issues such as the lighting but that was the obvious technical flaw I could see. Low light may be somewhat fixable, but if it was recorded with dirty heads or some other type of camera fault then it's a dead loss.

And people wonder why custom exclusive content costs what it does. Because anything from someone without clue # 1 will look like this. My POV stuff from 1998 looks better than this. What a tragedy.

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by rowan

I recognised the momentary flashes of coloured squares which I believe are dropouts, and when there's motion there's a strange striped effect.

Obviously there are other issues such as the lighting but that was the obvious technical flaw I could see. Low light may be somewhat fixable, but if it was recorded with dirty heads or some other type of camera fault then it's a dead loss.

Yes, the colored squares and the lines during motion The guy's making good and doing it all again and getting some money back to me. I've worked with him several times before and never a problem.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

This is in part why I started this thread...

I got two tapes... different girls... different scenes. It's not the lighting... maybe the camera...

Is the other tape with the other girl shot in the same exact room and is it well lit? I still say the lighting sucks anyway even if that is the case.

[StarkReality]

Originally Posted by sharphead

Stop carrying magnets when your transporting tapes!

Magnets? This looks more like exposure to an x-ray from the 70s....

[F-U-Jimmy]

First thing i see is that there is no lighting , it looks like available light to me, second thing is the light level is so low that the camera is hunting to find focus, thirdly it looks very much like this was shot at 15 FPS or maybe 20 FPS and then when its played back at 25 FPS it looks jumpy.

It looks very much like video shot in the 50s to me. The guy needs to get himself some new gear

[mmcfadden]

He's got a HD camcorder... that's what he is using to redo. I haven't the foggiest idea why he chose his older camera... The material is suppose to be "amateur style" (I Shot This Video) but def. not shitty quality due to bad camera.

I have 2 hours of content in different rooms and viewed various parts throughout on the lens of a couple cameras... every shot was jumpy, squares, lines, etc.

These digital camcorders with 8mm can film at different FPS?? I was looking at all the cameras to see if possibly there was a setting that would auto correct but couldn't find one.

[Grapesoda]

I've seen stuff like that on some of the tours around here $.02

[Lace]

Looks like some fucked up minidv tapes to me. Same shit my old canon zr cam did

[Peter Romero]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

He's got a HD camcorder... that's what he is using to redo. I haven't the foggiest idea why he chose his older camera... The material is suppose to be "amateur style" (I Shot This Video) but def. not shitty quality due to bad camera.

I have 2 hours of content in different rooms and viewed various parts throughout on the lens of a couple cameras... every shot was jumpy, squares, lines, etc.

These digital camcorders with 8mm can film at different FPS?? I was looking at all the cameras to see if possibly there was a setting that would auto correct but couldn't find one.

Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders. Wake up and smell the 1440X1080i resolution of a $7,000 High Definition Camera - it did not mate and make babies with a beaten-up and dropped 8mm consumer quality camera from the 80's. Go look in the mirror... Your guy is jerking you a good load and storing the tapes right up against a huge stereo speaker or magnet or he stepped on the tape or threw it up against a wall.

God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

You get what you pay for - and then he embezzled you for $1700 and cashed your bonus check on top of it? Good luck to you and your "Content provider". I'm going to go chop down a Cherry tree and tell you Abe did it... can I shoot for you? Send me a check and a wire... I'll fake like I didn't get the check, spend the wire, and then cash the check too. Let's be friends!

[2012]

first 100k now this ... what the fuckover?

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Peter Romero

Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders.

im gonna stop my reading right now and and comment on this... then i'll go back and read the rest of your post.

He's got two cameras... the one he used was with 8mm tapes and turned out what is on the link... by the way... i think the link looks better then the original due to conversions kinda masked the lines and all the rest wrong with the film.

Second camera... is an HD camcorder... i think sony... gonna refilm with that one.

[Peter Romero]

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

im gonna stop my reading right now and and comment on this... then i'll go back and read the rest of your post.

He's got two cameras... the one he used was with 8mm tapes and turned out what is on the link... by the way... i think the link looks better then the original due to conversions kinda masked the lines and all the rest wrong with the film.

Second camera... is an HD camcorder... i think sony... gonna refilm with that one.

Dude... have a nice day. Done with this thread. Gotta get back to editing High Definition video @ 3000kbps. You wrestle with that video scramble thingy you posted.

[mmcfadden]

Originally Posted by Peter Romero

God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

I've read every thread and don't believe the film was ever ok... cheers dont feel sorry... shit happens, he's making it right... i have enough self shot amateur film to know that the tape shouldn't look like that.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by Peter Romero

Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders. Wake up and smell the 1440X1080i resolution of a $7,000 High Definition Camera - it did not mate and make babies with a beaten-up and dropped 8mm consumer quality camera from the 80's. Go look in the mirror... Your guy is jerking you a good load and storing the tapes right up against a huge stereo speaker or magnet or he stepped on the tape or threw it up against a wall.

God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

You get what you pay for - and then he embezzled you for $1700 and cashed your bonus check on top of it? Good luck to you and your "Content provider". I'm going to go chop down a Cherry tree and tell you Abe did it... can I shoot for you? Send me a check and a wire... I'll fake like I didn't get the check, spend the wire, and then cash the check too. Let's be friends!

You might consider reading what he actually posted again. You've missed some of it somehow.