Do you care about the male in a porn scene?

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Let me challenge you just for the break in the day, now, today we have a very serious issue to resolve - I think there has to be some not entirely straight element in that, but let me reveal something:

It's something that's not spoken about, and I am sure every single male will tell you exactly the opposite - but, even if you consider yourself seriously straight, even if you consider yourself to be the god of all sexual relationships - you DO CARE about the MALE in the scene.

If you're not comfortable with him you are becoming FULL OF HATE and ANGER, full of RIVALITY :

"watch this dumbass steroid jerk is doing my favourite girl, this cock can't be real, you're kidding me he had to use Viagra, why does that idiot moan so much, just DON'T try to TALK you dumbass stuntcock!"

Even it's something not spoken about, you DO care about the male, even in porn - the main criteria of course is not to be disturbed by the owner of the COCK!

I have to admit I would rather enjoy a scene when there would be only a couple of old school gods of serial ejaculation banging all the girls.

Like the trademark hairstyle and the Lord Guiness book of cumshots record holder Peter North, the "almost priest gone wild" Steven St.Croix, the sleazy Italo type Tony Tedeschi or the Vince Vouyeur, those guys were fun, you got used to them and they were and are very recognizable..

Your thoughts on this serious issue?

[Spunky]

Not really,he gets paid well to fuck hot chicks..

[L-Pink]

Only Japanese males should be used.

[NosMo]

I only care when I am the male talent....Other than that not really, I know when I am editing I say a few unkind things but mostly at the camera man :D

NosMo

[96ukssob]

i get creaped out if they look like white trash or are really hairy.

[Kard63]

Originally Posted by bossku69

i get creaped out if they look like white trash or are really hairy.

and I hate little dick porn.

[ProjectNaked]

Is there a point to this thread???

My 2 cents: - for standard pussy pounding "porn" the stunt cock should keep his mouth shut and refrain from making stupid facial gestures or simulations. There is no need for it and he is the only one that will give a shit when watching it. Nobody watching straight porn gives a fuck if he is having a good time. Further, the stunt cock should never take up more of the frame than the female, (obviously there are position exceptions.)

(please don't tell the rest of the guys I was in here )

[Va2k]

To be honest:
I can't stand to hear or see a guy moan or have the camera point str8 up to his face!! I dont care if they are skinny overweight zitties as long as they can keep it up and just stfu and fuck the lady squirt and be done with it.

Another thing is if the dude is doing a fetish like feet! DONT just rub the damn feet with the cock and then jerk it off! Have the feet do all the jerking off for you! IF you're not into feet DONT FUCK THEM! Same thing with bondage or any fetish, if you DONT FUCKING KNOW IT DON'T DO IT!
LEARN the damn fetish before looking like an ass on film! just my

[Mohawk Steve]

I only watch scenes featuring a stand up, top notch bro

[CarlosTheGaucho]

I knew that - watch the evidence that EVERYONE cares !

[CarlosTheGaucho]

[GatorB]

The fact that Ron Jeremy has been in porn for 30 years proves very few people care about the male. Most guys fucking these chicks would NEVER EVER get to fuck girls that hot or 1/10 that hot in real life.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

They do not matter at least to me unless I know them.

I do not care about people I do not know.
As far as them appearing in the footage, I think it is necessary however for the most they can not play a role in the event or if they do it is partial. The male viewer does not want to know about the guy, they want to know about the girl.

This is the main draw back to Reality Based porn.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by Kard63

and I hate little dick porn.

See Im the opposite here.. If the guys unit is bigger then a babies arm, that makes me a little un easy. What's that say about me, yes I have an average penis size.

If the guy doesn't make all the moaning noises and doesn't stand out I don't even notice him.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Or rather it is the number one error in "Reality" based themes in porn.

Many producers make the mistake of making the Male talent the instigator, schemer, or undeserving idiot insert occupation that gets hot chicks and fucks them on video.

Thats not to entertaining to me.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

. The male viewer does not want to know about the guy, they want to know about the girl..

That's why I don't get when they cut to a guys face? Who in the fuck cares about that? I don't want to be jacking off and about to blow a load then see a guys face. And why it seems in the last several year guys think they have to talk in movies. Even the guys in the background. You used to NEVER hear that in porn. ATTENTION guys who do porn STFU already. I don't want to hear your fucking mouth. Not only you you getting to fuck a hot chick you're getting PAID. Just do your job and be quiet. You're fucking her for MY pleasure not your own. Act like a professional.

[Iron Fist]

They need to shave... and be pretty....hedgehogs need not apply...

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by GatorB

That's why I don't get when they cut to a guys face? Who in the fuck cares about that? I don't want to be jacking off and about to blow a load then see a guys face. And why it seems in the last several year guys think they have to talk in movies. Even the guys in the background. You used to NEVER hear that in porn. ATTENTION guys who do porn STFU already. I don't want to hear your fucking mouth. Not only you you getting to fuck a hot chick you're getting PAID. Just do your job and be quiet. You're fucking her for MY pleasure not your own. Act like a professional.

Yeah you nailed it! Shut the fuck up! Don't try to ATTRACT anyone, it's mainly MEN who watch porn, don't try anything you're only going to piss off your male audience.

The close up on the retarded face grim before the cumshot is something that I already discussed with fellow porn people as something that we just DON'T understand.

LOL

[NosMo]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Many producers make the mistake of making the Male talent the instigator, schemer, or undeserving idiot insert occupation that gets hot chicks and fucks them on video.

Well I am the scheming pervert who's job is fuck hot chicks. Thats how I pay the bills. It is PORN for Christ's sake, Not Gone with the Fucking Wind. I don't look for deep character development or a plot driven story. I am looking for something that gets me hard and gets me off.

NosMo

[Martin]

How about when dude is railing the chick doggy but is kinda standing over her and you get that real tight close up of his asshole. Fuck I hate that shit.LOL

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Martin

How about when dude is railing the chick doggy but is kinda standing over her and you get that real tight close up of his asshole. Fuck I hate that shit.LOL

Yeah, meaning the close up on the hairy ass riding the glory?

Oh YEAH, you have no chance to IGNORE the HAIRY MALE ASS with the BALLS bouncing in the rhytm of 120 hpm in a truly hypnotic motion.

80 pct. of your screen is filled with a PRIVATE PARTS OF A MALE - let me get it straight - you don't want to watch a hairy ass and hairy balls and how he tanned his ass in solarium because he is a douchebag.

You want to watch a hot chick.

Definitely one of the worst moments that can ever happen to you while watching porn.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

[Halcyon]

I think the cock is the most under-attended aspects of porn.

Not just the cock, but the body attached to it, the voice, etc.

For me, I want the male to be a prop for the woman to demonstrate her sexual charms.
So I want a nice big cock, a nice, well groomed body, and minimal-to-no talking from the guy.

ps. Christian's blog is an AWESOME look into the life of a stunt cock.
http://www.christiansingstheblues.com/

[Fletch XXX]

after seeing Peter North (Matt ramsay) go gay, I never wanted to see his cock near a girl again.

Too many guys were gay for pay back in the day, and if a cock has been in a guys asshole I dont like to see a girl sucking on it.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

after seeing Peter North (Matt ramsay) go gay, I never wanted to see his cock near a girl again.

Too many guys were gay for pay back in the day, and if a cock has been in a guys asshole I dont like to see a girl sucking on it.

Now THATS Funny!! It rhymes too, nice.

[Sebastian Sands]

yes it does, I rather watch Rocco mess up a few girls then the homeless guy on the corner. Not because I sexually prefer either of them, but simply because I know that a Rocco scene delivers and gets the most of of the girl.

[Jace]

sure, I care...there are a few guys I can't STAND seeing

Evan Stone being one of them



there are a few others

[CarlosTheGaucho]

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by NosMo

Well I am the scheming pervert who's job is fuck hot chicks. Thats how I pay the bills. It is PORN for Christ's sake, Not Gone with the Fucking Wind. I don't look for deep character development or a plot driven story. I am looking for something that gets me hard and gets me off.

NosMo

Well hey the stop showing your fucking face. WE do not want to see it. I could care less if you're having a good time. Also STFU. Your talk is not needed.

[Mutt]

porn viewers always rag on the male talent - sometimes it's just hating/jealousy but sometimes it's valid.

what i do know is that in gonzo porn the male talent is what makes a scene suck, mediocre or great almost as much as the female talent. especially when the girls are newcomers.

most web companies are cheap so they shoot the bottom end of the male talent pool cuz the top guys are making as much as the females these days.

guys find something to hate about all the male talent - one's too hairy and ugly, one's too old, one's a steroid juicing cro magnon, one's got a bent dick, one's a closet fag, one won't shut up etc etc

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Mutt

guys find something to hate about all the male talent - one's too hairy and ugly, one's too old, one's a steroid juicing cro magnon, one's got a bent dick, one's a closet fag, one won't shut up etc etc

I won't comment on that

[JustDaveXxx]

I think the male is the most important aspect of the scene!! I book my males 1st then i book the girls.

Think of the a hot girl as a race car driver and the male as the race car driver.. You can have the hottest girl in the industry and if the guy sux, your scene will suck! Manuel Farara, John Strong, steve Holms, Chris charming are all studs!! That just to name a couple. These guys have high rates and are booked 2 months out. They are definitely worth the money!!! These are the type of guys that make or break scenes.


If i owned a formula 1 race car, who would i want driving it? My budy who drives his mustang faster than i drive my truck? Or "Michael Schumacher"? (the best race car driver to drive a car and the worlds highest paid athlete)




Now, how i shoot it is what makes the difference. If the scene is shot right, you really wont see the guys ass or whole body. No "man ass" please!!

In reality the guy is a character. But when the actual scene starts, the majority of the male gets cut out with good angles.

Male is important!! Very!! I get to shoot Shawn Michaels with Amber Rain tommarow. That is a serious race car driver driving a serious car!!

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Jace

sure, I care...there are a few guys I can't STAND seeing

Evan Stone being one of them



there are a few others

I shot Even Stone 3 days ago in a gonzo scene with Cody Lane. I let this guy do what he wanted and i followed. FUCK!! It was one of the best scenes i have shot in a long time!! It was so hard core!! I have to turn in 2 versions. the safe "you don't have to refund your clients money version" and the you might go to jail for obscenity version!!

I shot it and im cutting it so both versions are gonna rock! He drilled her so hard for so long. She got choked out 3 times and woke up with a cock deep down her throat. You see her wake up with the cock all the way down. This scene was so fucking good that 5 of my director friends who don't watch porn watched 58 minutes of Even Stone punishing this girl with his penis!! Cody lane was great too, but not many guys could have pushed that scene the way Even did.


Guys are important!!!

where is the scene going? PORN.COM Both versions..

[Mutt]

not enough young guys and i've heard the same excuse why for many years and the excuses are weak - developing good younger male talent is important - would be to me if i had a hardcore site.

guys who do good scenes - James Dean, Manuel Ferrara, Steve Holmes, Kurt Lockwood, Mark Davis - only James Dean is young of that group, Manuel and Kurt kinda young - there are some other good ones i've seen, just don't know their names.

i think John Strong sucks, Sean Michaels the black guy from way back - lame

[Mutt]

Evan Stone is good - he does seem to have a lot of haters - it's the out of date Fabio look that guys goof on him for. He did Janine's first B/G scenes for VIVID and they were hot from what I remember.

[JustDaveXxx]

James rocks!! I have shot that guy since he was 18. he was good then too. T

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

I shot Even Stone 3 days ago in a gonzo scene with Cody Lane. I let this guy do what he wanted and i followed. FUCK!! It was one of the best scenes i have shot in a long time!! It was so hard core!! I have to turn in 2 versions. the safe "you don't have to refund your clients money version" and the you might go to jail for obscenity version!!

I shot it and im cutting it so both versions are gonna rock! He drilled her so hard for so long. She got choked out 3 times and woke up with a cock deep down her throat. You see her wake up with the cock all the way down. This scene was so fucking good that 5 of my director friends who don't watch porn watched 58 minutes of Even Stone punishing this girl with his penis!! Cody lane was great too, but not many guys could have pushed that scene the way Even did.


Guys are important!!!

where is the scene going? PORN.COM Both versions..

seems to me that Evan had the easier end of that exchange. what's harder, jamming your cock around or passing out multiple times in a porn shoot and still continuing? I've never understood or liked stuff that violent but in terms of difficulty level...passing out, waking up and doing ANYTHING at all is pretty fucking hard.

[v4 media]

As long as they shut up and the camera doesnt zoom in on his 'o face' when he's coming, doesn't bother me.

[Buzz]

From the shooter's angle male talents are VERY important.

really few girls, even experienced, are able to drive the scene.
Girls are being fucked, guys are fucking. No disrespect to women, but when it comes to shooting the rule works 100%.

That's why it's so important to have GOOD male talent. Even if you've got young Pamela Anderson in front of your cam you'll fail if the stuntcock is'nt good enough

[RevengeBucks_Monica]

This thread really made me giggle, and brought up quite a few things I never really thought of before. Like how much men hate to see the "O" face the guy in porn makes. heehee.

As a girl, it REALLY bothers me to see super creepy guys matched up with really hot girls. I can't watch it. blech!

It's really disappointing as most of the porn I've looked at to date hasn't included any males that I felt any attraction to whatsoever. But I guess that's not surprising when porn is really made with a male audience in mind.

Why on earth do pornographers not realize you guys don't want to see the dude's "O" face anyway? You'd think they'd know that.

[DigitalDruid]

I say POV or nothing....... freaks me out when its more the guy than the chick...... you guys are producers....... Quit it

[basschick]

although for the most part, i can't stand watching the guys in porn, there's one guy i like to watch - johnny thrust. this guy never seems to have made it to the A list, but he's funny, he can actually act and he fucks like a maniac.

most of the rest have hairy bellies or they just won't shut up. eek!

[Sam Granger]

Yep, hate seeing ugly ass men in porn. Hairy, overweight or weird faced - and especially when they overgroan.

Also, hate shots when guy is fucking girl and the camera is behind the guy, between his legs. I dont want to just see cock in pussy and some scrotal sac dangling about and his arsehole, its unpleasing.

And same goes when guy us fucking girl and you seeh the girls arse - not even fully, just the cock going in and out of pussy, I like seeing the face too of the girl and her enjoying it, red cheeks etc... Or maybe I'm just being too picky now?

[who]

I don't like if the guy has a small cock. It looks ridiculous. Also I don't like seeing hideously ugly men. It gives me that same 'yucky' feeling I get when I see demented people like retards and cripples.

I haven't really thought about the guys in the shots very much. As long as there's not a bunch of scenes showing his sweaty face as he's banging someone then it's mostly fine with me

[rayadp05]

I don't pay much attention to males that are on porn sites or in videos....unless it's my fat ass pounding the hell out of the amateur teenagers from my website...which are promoted on various tgp websites through my affiliates.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I will Agree, Evan Stone is one of the better Male talent guys out there.

[bizarrejan]

I care,

[CarlosTheGaucho]

A totally bullshit thread turned into quite a discussion.

I can also add why is it probably easier to accept the vintage guys - many of them actually looked like people.

No tanned asses, no steroids.

[xmas13]

I care if the male is a tranny.

[G-Rotica]

there's men in porn scenes?