Fed up of CCBILL... - GoFuckYourself.com

marktruman · 01-25-2009, 04:27 PM

Im thinking of going to segpay/epoch. can anyone give me any insight to them?

Also, is there a charge to process VISA on an adult site? Im located in EU, apparently theres no charge for visa in that region, not sure about adult

thanks all!

brassmonkey · 01-25-2009, 04:29 PM

lol u cant convert dont hate on them

Sosa · 01-25-2009, 04:29 PM

What are you having troubles with?

marktruman · 01-25-2009, 04:32 PM

well fed up is quite harsh, ccbill have never done me wrong but would like to try out some different merchants, maybe as a backup processor. Im just wondering about they charge any fee's

babebuns · 01-25-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

lol u cant convert dont hate on them

What does that have to do with merchant accounts?

Si · 01-25-2009, 04:37 PM

segpay

Epoch is terrible!

marktruman · 01-25-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

segpay

Epoch is terrible!

I heard good things about them also. You know if they implement the visa charge for adult in EU? Verotel charges $1000 for that, terrible

F-U-Jimmy · 01-25-2009, 04:52 PM

I doubt you will find better than CCBILL, the guys over at Epoch are great but i get much much better results through CCBILL

DVTimes · 01-25-2009, 05:11 PM

i love ccbill.

SomeCreep · 01-25-2009, 05:16 PM

Use both ccbill and epoch.

2012 · 01-25-2009, 05:17 PM

ccbill or die

Si · 01-25-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktruman

I heard good things about them also. You know if they implement the visa charge for adult in EU? Verotel charges $1000 for that, terrible

Do you want it for affiliates? or just recieving payment?

AnniKN · 01-25-2009, 05:19 PM

From the perspective of a wronged affiliate - epoch's support was really terrible, I had to localize the problem myself and they kept saying it would be fixed but they never did... and that's enough for me to not ever consider them as an option for paysite processing.

topnotch, standup guy · 01-25-2009, 05:25 PM

segpay = iBill

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/476320-ibill-segpay.html
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/795460-segway-ibill-connection.html

If you want to get paid, go somewhere else.

marktruman · 01-25-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

Do you want it for affiliates? or just recieving payment?

recieving payment

Si · 01-25-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktruman

recieving payment

See my sig, i'm not sure if they do adult. but, they have all the tools you will need.

Also they work in Euros and US dollars

stickyfingerz · 01-25-2009, 06:02 PM

Ccbill allows you to setup both Epoch and Segpay as cascading billers. Ccbill is the shiznet.

brassmonkey · 01-25-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ccbill allows you to setup both Epoch and Segpay as cascading billers. Ccbill is the shiznet.

better ask somebody fo shizo my nizzo

DWB · 01-25-2009, 06:10 PM

I've never had a problem with ccbill other than them being a little to strict on approving new sites for me (Visa).

I doubt you will find better.

roxyxxx · 01-25-2009, 06:33 PM

dont use ibill or segpay

corvette · 01-25-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktruman

Im thinking of going to segpay/epoch. can anyone give me any insight to them?

Also, is there a charge to process VISA on an adult site? Im located in EU, apparently theres no charge for visa in that region, not sure about adult

thanks all!

if there is anything you would like to talk about or if i can help in any way, please do not hesitate to contact me

[email protected]
45471840

TisMe · 01-25-2009, 07:06 PM

Segpay has been good for me as have 365 and also Zombaio recently. Nothing wrong with having back up or additional processors.

I would suggest talking to ccbill and seeing if you can get some resolution to the problems. They're a top notch company and as Mark said above, always willing to listen.

notoldschool · 01-25-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

segpay

Epoch is terrible!

lol. newb.

Si · 01-25-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

lol. newb.

lol. prick.

Rand · 01-25-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktruman

Im thinking of going to segpay/epoch. can anyone give me any insight to them?

Also, is there a charge to process VISA on an adult site? Im located in EU, apparently theres no charge for visa in that region, not sure about adult

thanks all!

Programs in the EU are not required to pay the Visa registration fee. And Epoch itself has no fee to open an account. So no, there are no set up fees for EU programs.

If you have any specific questions about billing services, etc... you can contact us by writing to [email protected]. (I'm out of the country at the time of this post) Or, our processing agreement is online and can get you started into the process of setting up your account quickly. You can find the agreement at https://epoch.com/contract/

marktruman · 01-26-2009, 01:40 AM

got it all sorted with ccbill, will use epoch as backup. I was using verotel and they make all EU people pay the visa fee, which is quite unfair. I didnt know EU residents didnt have to pay it. Oh well, you learn somthing new everyday

chemicaleyes · 01-26-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk

i love ccbill.

siggy too biggy

Tat2Jr · 01-26-2009, 06:13 AM

Been with Epoch since the late 90's. Great company.

RadiantX · 01-26-2009, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marktruman

got it all sorted with ccbill, will use epoch as backup. I was using verotel and they make all EU people pay the visa fee, which is quite unfair. I didnt know EU residents didnt have to pay it. Oh well, you learn somthing new everyday

mark, I was just about to suggest verotel! Damn that stupid visa fee! Good luck w/ ccbill. I saw you signed up for one of my toplists, glad to see you're back! Shoot me an icq when (if) you set up an affiliate program.

Zorgman · 01-26-2009, 06:26 AM

Too bad none of these companies can setup an Australia account for porn without having a LLC in America or company in the EU. Last time I did this for a client it cost $6000 just to get LLC company and a nominee to do the paper work of signing up with ccbill, sending ID etc.

quantum-x · 01-26-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorgman

Too bad none of these companies can setup an Australia account for porn without having a LLC in America or company in the EU. Last time I did this for a client it cost $6000 just to get LLC company and a nominee to do the paper work of signing up with ccbill, sending ID etc.

That's ridiculous.
EU companies can be bought off the shelf for about 1.5 - 3k

pornguy · 01-26-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

That's ridiculous.
EU companies can be bought off the shelf for about 1.5 - 3k

I..... Think..... I have an idea..

( Said in my best Captain Kirk Voice! )

stickyfingerz · 01-26-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

I..... Think..... I have an idea..

( Said in my best Captain Kirk Voice! )

lol Ya I think I had the same idea bout 2 years ago.

01-25-2009, 04:27 PM	#1
marktruman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,025	Fed up of CCBILL... Im thinking of going to segpay/epoch. can anyone give me any insight to them? Also, is there a charge to process VISA on an adult site? Im located in EU, apparently theres no charge for visa in that region, not sure about adult thanks all!

01-25-2009, 04:29 PM	#2
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01-25-2009, 04:52 PM	#8
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01-25-2009, 05:11 PM	#9
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01-25-2009, 05:16 PM	#10
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01-25-2009, 04:29 PM	#3
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01-25-2009, 04:32 PM	#4
marktruman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,025	well fed up is quite harsh, ccbill have never done me wrong but would like to try out some different merchants, maybe as a backup processor. Im just wondering about they charge any fee's

01-25-2009, 04:37 PM	#6
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	segpay Epoch is terrible!

01-25-2009, 05:17 PM	#11
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01-25-2009, 05:19 PM	#13
AnniKN Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South of the border Posts: 1,682	From the perspective of a wronged affiliate - epoch's support was really terrible, I had to localize the problem myself and they kept saying it would be fixed but they never did... and that's enough for me to not ever consider them as an option for paysite processing. __________________ StraponCash \| HDPays Need affordable Photo Retouching, Video Editing, Design, Coding, Writing or Data Entry? 435-155-252

01-25-2009, 05:25 PM	#14
topnotch, standup guy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Here and there. Posts: 1,562	segpay = iBill http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/476320-ibill-segpay.html http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/795460-segway-ibill-connection.html If you want to get paid, go somewhere else.

01-25-2009, 06:02 PM	#17
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Ccbill allows you to setup both Epoch and Segpay as cascading billers. Ccbill is the shiznet.

01-25-2009, 06:10 PM	#19
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I've never had a problem with ccbill other than them being a little to strict on approving new sites for me (Visa). I doubt you will find better.

01-25-2009, 06:33 PM	#20
roxyxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 104	dont use ibill or segpay __________________

01-25-2009, 07:06 PM	#22
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	Segpay has been good for me as have 365 and also Zombaio recently. Nothing wrong with having back up or additional processors. I would suggest talking to ccbill and seeing if you can get some resolution to the problems. They're a top notch company and as Mark said above, always willing to listen.

01-26-2009, 01:40 AM	#26
marktruman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,025	got it all sorted with ccbill, will use epoch as backup. I was using verotel and they make all EU people pay the visa fee, which is quite unfair. I didnt know EU residents didnt have to pay it. Oh well, you learn somthing new everyday

01-26-2009, 06:13 AM	#28
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01-26-2009, 06:26 AM	#30
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	Too bad none of these companies can setup an Australia account for porn without having a LLC in America or company in the EU. Last time I did this for a client it cost $6000 just to get LLC company and a nominee to do the paper work of signing up with ccbill, sending ID etc. __________________ ---