How the Super Rich keep all the money.. and keep us slaves

[RogerV]

this video reveals alot even though some will say its BS
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...00997336473908

also some text info
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

[Nicky]

I want to own the federal reserve

[collegeboobies]

im gonna watch this in a few

[Barefootsies]

Looks like another one of the tin foil hat YouTube documentaries.

[John.]

old news at this stage

[After Shock Media]

Has RogerV joined the hat foil club?

[dav3]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Looks like another one of the tin foil hat YouTube documentaries.

Do you think the Federal Reserve is run by the US Gov. or private banks?

[onwebcam]

And even though history is repeating itself. The majority want to believe it's a "tin foil hat wearers conspiracy theory."

[dyna mo]

debunked a long time ago

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/fl...flaherty5.html

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[billyb]

This video has it's pros and it's cons. There is nothing new here, I guess we as a society forget that whether you believe this or not. Our rights come from our creator, not our government.

This is how they can keep a people down, you have your people become wards of the state.
Your citizens become dependent on the government taking care of them. This is what leads to the down fall of a nation.

I did not like JFK, but I wonder if it was true if he wanted to end the federal reserve and end the war in Vietnam?. If there is proof that he wanted to do this, this would be a reason to have him killed!.

I don't know if that is true or not?.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

And even though history is repeating itself. The majority want to believe it's a "tin foil hat wearers conspiracy theory."

Its always is and always will be. Go back to ats.

[potter]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

debunked a long time ago

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/fl...flaherty5.html

Hey hey.. Slow down tido. Facts have no place in a serious conspiracy thread like this.

Honestly though, no one who believes youtube conspiracy videos are the absolute truth will argue or construct their beliefs from actual facts.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

debunked a long time ago

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/fl...flaherty5.html

Sorry that wasn't a debunk. They were trying to show that the Fed isn't owned by a foreign entity not that it wasn't privately owned. It never showed who were the owners of the shareholding banks or who the shareholding banks are.. It just came to the conclusion that it wasn't owned by Non-Americans. Truth is nobody can find out who the real owners are at this moment so it has been pieced together via history. The one thing that is for sure it's not the Federal Government. Everyone who has researched the history of all the central banks know that the Rothschilds set out across the world to become citizens of the countries so they could create these central banks and control population by them. They admit it themselves. It's history, not a conspiracy theory.


"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." -- Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" -- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

[Ethersync]

Read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" for the tin foil free truth...

[onwebcam]

And if you want to get even real technical a corporation and a citizen are one and the same under UCC laws.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Sorry that wasn't a debunk. They were trying to show that the Fed isn't owned by a foreign entity not that it wasn't privately owned. It never showed who were the owners of the shareholding banks or who the shareholding banks are.. It just came to the conclusion that it wasn't owned by Non-Americans. Truth is nobody can find out who the real owners are at this moment so it has been pieced together via history. The one thing that is for sure it's not the Federal Government. Everyone who has researched the history of all the central banks know that the Rothschilds set out across the world to become citizens of the countries so they could create these central banks and control population by them. They admit it themselves. It's history, not a conspiracy theory.


"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." -- Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" -- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

i merely provided one link out of dozens and dozens explaining the fed, i'm not here to do other's research or persuade those either.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Has RogerV joined the hat foil club?

the people who think its not true live under tin foil hat

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

debunked a long time ago

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/fl...flaherty5.html

how is that did you read it.

Each of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks is organized as a corporation in much the same way as many other firms. According to Kah, foreigners own a controlling interest in the shares of the New York Fed. He claimed that ?Swiss and Saudi Arabian contacts? identified the top eight shareholders as

Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Chase Manhatten Bank, and
Goldman, Sachs of New York (Kah, p. 13).
He also described these groups as the bank?s ?Class A shareholders? (p. 14). This is curious because Federal Reserve stock is not classified in this manner. It can be either ?member stock? or ?public stock,? but there are no such things as ?Class A? shares. However, the directors of a Federal Reserve Bank are separated into classes A, B, and C depending on how they are appointed (12 USCA §302). This may have been the source of Kah?s confusion.
Eustace Mullins compiled a very different list. He reported that the top 8 stockholders of the New York Fed were

Citibank
Chase Manhatten Bank
Morgan Guaranty Trust
Chemical Bank
Manufacturers Hanover Trust
Bankers Trust Company
National Bank of North America, and
Bank of New York.

[Spunky]

God damn the man! * Shakes fist in air*

[SNL]

Your only a slave if you are in debt.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Sorry that wasn't a debunk. They were trying to show that the Fed isn't owned by a foreign entity not that it wasn't privately owned. It never showed who were the owners of the shareholding banks or who the shareholding banks are.. It just came to the conclusion that it wasn't owned by Non-Americans. Truth is nobody can find out who the real owners are at this moment so it has been pieced together via history. The one thing that is for sure it's not the Federal Government. Everyone who has researched the history of all the central banks know that the Rothschilds set out across the world to become citizens of the countries so they could create these central banks and control population by them. They admit it themselves. It's history, not a conspiracy theory.


"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." -- Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" -- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

thats reality. so it looks like the gov is just going to have them print more of there own money so the bailouts really dont matter

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by SNL

Your only a slave if you are in debt.

That is true.... one reason old school europeans dont have dept they only buy stuff they can afford

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RogerV

how is that did you read it.

wow, just wow. you didn't even finish reading the article then come back here and tell me i didn't read it. laughable.

just more proof of the stupidity of people- and the laziness. it's not my job to teach people how to read, do research and have common sense.

from the conclusion (the part you got too lazy to get to)

Mullins and Kah both argue that by controlling the New York Federal Reserve Bank, the international banking elite command the entire Federal Reserve System and thus direct U.S. monetary policy for their own profit. ?For all practical purposes,? Kah writes, ?the Federal Reserve Bank of New York is the Federal Reserve? (Kah, p.13; emphasis his). This is the linchpin of their conspiracy theory because it provides the mechanism by which the international bankers can execute their plans. A brief look at how the Fed?s powers are actually distributed shows that this key assumption in the conspiracy theory is wrong.

The Federal Reserve System is controlled not by the New York Federal Reserve Bank, but by the Board of Governors (the Board) and the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). The Board is a seven-member panel appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. It determines the interest rate for loans to commercial banks and thrifts, selects the required reserve ratio which determines how much of customer deposits a bank must keep on hand (a factor that significantly affects a bank?s ability create new credit), and also decides how much new currency Federal Reserve Banks may issue each year (12 USCA §248). The FOMC consists of the members of the Board, the president of the New York Fed, and four presidents from other regional Federal Reserve Banks. It formulates open market policy which determines how much in government bonds the Fed Banks may buy or sell ? the major tool of monetary policy (12 USCA §263).

The key point is that a Federal Reserve Bank cannot change its discount rate or required reserve ratio, issue additional currency, or purchase government bonds without the explicit approval of either the Board or the FOMC. The New York Federal Reserve Bank, through its direct and permanent representation on the FOMC, has more say on monetary policy than any other Federal Reserve Bank, but it still only has one vote of twelve on the FOMC and no say at all in setting the discount rate or the required reserve ratio. If it wanted monetary policy to go in one direction, while the Board and the rest of the FOMC wanted policy to go another, then the New York Fed would be out-voted. The powers over U.S. monetary policy rest firmly with the publicly-appointed Board of Governors and the Federal Open Market Committee, not with the New York Federal Reserve Bank or a group of international conspirators.

Mullins also made a great to-do about the Federal Advisory Council. This is a panel of twelve representatives appointed by the board of directors of each Fed Bank. The Council meets at least four times each year with the members of the Board to give them their advice and to discuss general economic conditions (12 USCA §261). Many of the members have been bankers, a point not at all missed by Mullins. He speculates that this Council of bankers is able to force its will on the Board of Governors:

The claim that the ?advice? of the council members is not binding on the Governors or that it carries no weight is to claim that four times a year, twelve of the most influential bankers in the United States take time from their work to travel to Washington to meet with the Federal Reserve Board merely to drink coffee and exchange pleasantries (Mullins, p. 45).

A point Mullins neglects entirely is that the Council has no voting power in Board meetings, and thus has no direct input into monetary policy. In support of his hypothesis Mullins offers no evidence, not even an anecdote. Moreover, his Council theory is inconsistent with his general thesis that the London Connection runs the Federal Reserve System via their imagined control of the N.Y. Fed. If this were true, then why would they also need the Council?

The allegation that an international banking cartel controls the Federal Reserve is wrong. Contrary to Kah?s claim, foreigners do not own any stock in the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Neither do they currently own any significant shares of the domestic banks that actually do own shares in the N.Y. Fed. Moreover, the central assumption that control of the New York Federal Reserve is the same as control of the whole System is badly mistaken. Also, the profits of the Federal Reserve System, again contrary to the conspiracy theorists, are funneled almost entirely back to the federal government, not to an international banking elite. If the U.S. central bank is in the grip of an international conspiracy, then Mullins, Kah, et al have certainly not uncovered it.

[onwebcam]

Your source doesn't give any real sources of information. It's useless. Here's my "conspiracy theory" reference list

"Every Congressman, every Senator knows precisely what causes inflation...but can't, [won't] support the drastic reforms to stop it [repeal of the Federal Reserve Act] because it could cost him his job."
Robert A. Heinlein

"By this means [printing money] government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft."
British Lord John Maynard Keynes

"The Federal Reserve system pays the U.S. Treasury 020.60 per thousand notes -- a little over 2 cents each-- without regard to the face value of the note. Federal Reserve Notes, incidentally, are the only type of currency now produced for circulation. They are printed exclusively by the Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and the $20.60 per thousand price reflects the Bureau's full cost of production. Federal Reserve Notes are printed in 01, 02, 05, 10, 20, 50, and 100 dollar denominations only; notes of 500, 1000, 5000, and 10,000 denominations were last printed in 1945."
Donald J. Winn

"Neither paper currency nor deposits have value as commodities, intrinsically, a 'dollar' bill is just a piece of paper. Deposits are merely book entries."
Modern Money Mechanics Workbook, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, 1975

"The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money" -- Charles A. Lindbergh Sr

"The [Federal Reserve Act] as it stands seems to me to open the way to a vast inflation of the currency... I do not like to think that any law can be passed that will make it possible to submerge the gold standard in a flood of irredeemable paper currency."
Henry Cabot Lodge Sr

"There is a distinction between a 'debt discharged' and a debt 'paid'. When discharged, the debt still exists though divested of it's charter as a legal obligation during the operation of the discharge, something of the original vitality of the debt continues to exist, which may be transfered, even though the transferee takes it subject to it's disability incident to the discharge."
Stanek vs. White

"I have never seen more Senators express discontent with their jobs....I think the major cause is that, deep down in our hearts, we have been accomplices in doing something terrible and unforgivable to our wonderful country. Deep down in our heart, we know that we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected."
John Danforth

"Should government refrain from regulation (taxation), the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent and the FRAUD can no longer be concealed."
British Lord John Maynard Keynes

"But if in the pursuit of the means we should unfortunately stumble again on unfunded paper money or any similar species of fraud, we shall assuredly give a fatal stab to our national credit in its infancy. Paper money will invariably operate in the body of politics as spirit liquors on the human body. They prey on the vitals and ultimately destroy them. Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice."
George Washington

The economic Crash of '29 and the Great Depression were caused by the money vultures and foreign swindlers of the Federal Reserve withholding currency from circulation and raising interest rates after an inflationary easy money policy in the early 1920s. The Federal Reserve's fear of excessive speculation led it into a far too deflationary policy in the late 1920s, "destroying the village in order to save it."

The U.S. economy was already past the peak of the business cycle when the stock market crashed in October of 1929. The Federal Reserve did "overdo it" -- raising interest rates too much, bringing on the recession that they had hoped to avoid.

This contrived "emergency" by the money vultures and the political manipulations of FDR, et. al. since then has created innumerous abuses, usurpations, and abridgments of Constitutionally delegated Powers and Authority as clearly stated in Senate Report 93-549 (1973):

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [-1825 years now in 108] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."




It is easier to rob by setting up a bank than by holding up a bank clerk.
Bertolt Brecht


A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove you don't need it.
Bob Hope


It is no accident that banks resemble temples, preferably Greek, and that the supplicants who come to perform the rites of deposit and withdrawal instinctively lower their voices into the registers of awe. Even the most junior tellers acquire within weeks of their employment the officiousness of hierophants tending an eternal flame. I don't know how they become so quickly inducted into the presiding mysteries, or who instructs them in the finely articulated inflections of contempt for the laity, but somehow they learn to think of themselves as suppliers of the monetarized DNA that is the breath of life.
Lewis H Lapham

With a group of bankers I always had the feeling that success was measured by the extent one gave nothing away.
Lord Langford

"The Federal Reserve bank buys government bonds without one penny..."
Congressman Wright Patman

I am convinced that the agreement [Bretton Woods] will enthrone a world dictatorship of private
finance more complete and terrible than and Hitlerite dream. It offers no solution of world problems, but quite blatantly sets up controls which will reduce the smaller nations to vassal states and make every government the mouthpiece and tool of International Finance. It will undermine and destroy the democratic institutions of this country - in fact as effectively as ever the Fascist forces could have done - pervert and paganise our Christian ideals; and will undoubtedly present a new menace, endangering world peace. World collaboration of private financial interests can only mean mass unemployment, slavery, misery, degradation and financial destruction. Therefore, as freedom loving Australians we should reject this infamous proposal.
Labor Minister of Australia

"Government spending is always a “tax” burden on the American people and is never equally or fairly distributed. The poor and low-middle income workers always suffer the most from the deceitful tax of inflation and borrowing."
Ron Paul

Drive-in banks were established so most of the cars today could see their real owners.
E. Joseph Crossman


There can be no real individual freedom in the presence of economic insecurity.
Chester Bowles

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion.
George Bernard Shaw

Socialism failed because it couldn't tell the economic truth; capitalism may fail because it couldn't tell the ecological truth.
Lester Brown

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation." This is because nearly every part of our lives revolves around money in some way. If we clear up the money problem, all sorts of seemingly unrelated problems will simply vanish!"
John Adams

The youth who can solve the money question will do more for the world than all the professional soldiers of history.
Henry Ford Sr

I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power to borrow money.
Thomas Jefferson

[onwebcam]

Congressman Patman: "Mr. Eccles, how did you get the money to buy those two billions of government securities?"

Eccles: "We created it."

Patman: "Out of what?"

Eccles: "Out of the right to issue credit money."

Marriner Eccles, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, before the House Banking and Currency Committee, Sept. 30, 1941:

If two parties, instead of being a bank and an individual, were an individual and an individual, they could not inflate the circulating medium by a loan transaction, for the simple reason that the lender could not lend what he didn't have, as banks can do.....Only commercial banks and trust companies can lend money that they manufacture by lending it.
Professor Irving Fisher

Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its power but the truth is, the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will.
Louis T. McFadden

"An examination of the major stockholders of the New York City banks shows clearly that a few families, related by blood, marriage, or business interests, still control the New York City banks which, in turn, hold the controlling stock of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York."
Eustace Mullins

" Our whole banking system I ever abhorred, I continue to Abhor, and I shall die abhorring. Every bank of discount, every bank by which interest is to be paid or profit of any kind made by the [lender], is downright corruption. It is taxation for the public for the benefit and profit of individuals."
John Adams

"Using a central bank to create alternate periods of inflation and deflation, and thus whipsawing the public for vast profits, had been worked out by the international bankers to an exact science."
Gary Allen

"The law records show that they [the Rothschilds] were the power in the old Bank of the United States."
Gustavus Myers

"The Federal Reserve Bank of New York - which completely dominates the other 11 branches through stock ownership, control and influence, having the only permanent voting seat on the Federal Open Market Committee and handling all open market bond transactions - has 19,752,655 shares outstanding and is majority-owned by two banks: Chase Manhattan Bank (now merged with Chemical Bank), with 6,389,445 shares or 32.35 percent; and Citibank, NA, with 4,051,851 shares or 20.51 percent. Together, those two banks own 10,441,295 shares or 52.86 percent - which is majority control."
Eric Samuelson

"Bankers fought the. Federal Reserve Act with the tireless energy of men fighting a forest fire. They said it was populistic, socialistic, half-baked, destructive, infantile, badly conceived and unworkable. (However), I perceived gradually, through all the haze and smoke of controversy, that the banking world was not really as much opposed to the bill as it pretended to be..."
William McAdoo

"To modern minds, it seemed bizarre to think of the Federal Reserve as a religious institution. Yet the conspiracy theorists, in their own demented way, were on to something real and significant. . . [The Fed] did also function in the realm of religion. Its mysterious powers of money creation, inherited from priestly forebears, shielded a complex bundle of social and psychological meanings. With its own form of secret incantation, the Federal Reserve presided over awesome social ritual, transactions so powerful and frightening they seemed to lie beyond common understanding. . . Above all, money was a function of faith. It required implicit and universal social consent that was indeed mysterious. To create money and use it, each one must believe and everyone must believe. Only then did worthless pieces of paper take on value."
William Greider

[dyna mo]

i'm not here to argue. i did my research on this years ago when i was in college. i simply provided one informational link of many for the op so that he could see the other side of the coin- something that is important in understanding complex institutions such as the fed.

either way, it makes no difference to me what you or he believes.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by dav3

Do you think the Federal Reserve is run by the US Gov. or private banks?

Considering the President is the guy who appoints people to run it, I'd say the government has the power over it.

[pocketkangaroo]

All I'll say is that some here need to pick up a Civics book or two and learn how the government is run. Running around shouting things without knowing the actual laws in place makes you look silly. Most basic economic books will cover this as well for those confused. Library card is free and they will have all you need and more.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Considering the President is the guy who appoints people to run it, I'd say the government has the power over it.

It's all a front. Who is the new Head of Treasury? The old Head of the NY Fed. They just move people around who are all aware of the scheme.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

All I'll say is that some here need to pick up a Civics book or two and learn how the government is run. Running around shouting things without knowing the actual laws in place makes you look silly. Most basic economic books will cover this as well for those confused. Library card is free and they will have all you need and more.

Yeah I'll run right out and grab me one of those Keynesian economics books, and burn it.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

wow, just wow. you didn't even finish reading the article then come back here and tell me i didn't read it. laughable.

just more proof of the stupidity of people- and the laziness. it's not my job to teach people how to read, do research and have common sense.

from the conclusion (the part you got too lazy to get to)

I dont understand what point you are trying to make? all I'm saying is there are a few super rich who control it all. and the people in gov are getting paid by them in many ways and not helping the commen american.

Hope this Obama does something to put a squeeze on them to at least spread a little of there money that is all. Because Bush didnt which i expected.

[2012]

i like this one
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...rgOx-oUg&hl=en

[Reak AGV]

Im going to watch it in a few moment

[2012]

red or blue pill ?

[TheSenator]

"An Evil exist that threatens every man, woman and Child of the great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland" George W. Bush


"An Evil exist that threatens every man, woman and Child of the great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland" Adolf Hitler

[JFK]

[pornguy]

As my grandparents use to say: " the Rich get Richer and the Poor Get Poorer ! "

[John-ACWM]

...and I'm going back to work

[baddog]

Originally Posted by fartfly

red or blue pill ?

Cake or pie?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by baddog

Cake or pie?

a sucker ?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Considering the President is the guy who appoints people to run it, I'd say the government has the power over it.

That and there's the congressional confirmation process, and they (fed governors and chairman) can also be impeached by congress and forced to appear before congress to explain their actions.

[2012]

Originally Posted by baddog

Cake or pie?

paper or plastic ?