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Solo Girls + Revshare > PPS Big Generic Sites
I was thinking about my own stats as an affiliate from my tgps over the years.
And then I got to thinking about how Claudia-Marie.Com compares to other sites. So I took a look at the statistics for Freeones with us. Freeones is in our top ten of affiliates...our biggest ones are sites that some here may not be familiar with so I'm going with Freeones since they post on GFY and you're all familiar with them. As of today, the oldest rebilling member that FreeOnes sent Claudia-Marie.Com is guy that joined August 11th, 2007 (we opened Claudia-Marie.Com in April of 2007) Freeones has made $302.82 at this point from that one sale. Next oldest is one from Sept. 4th 2007 Freeones has made $269.84 from that sale, so far. And the list goes on right up until this morning when they made their latest sale with us. Point is, the big PPS may look good to you at first. And the sites with all those girls fucking all those guys may make you think: "Wow! That's a lot of diversity for the surfer! This should sell and rebill like crazy!" Reality is that those same 20 girls fucking those same 10 guys all work for the same modeling agency and are not only on every site doing the same thing, but also are available for free on just about every torrent site. ![]() Yes, it can and does still sell. And those sites do rebill, though my experience has been that they don't rebill for longer than 3 months MAX. And most sales don't rebill that long. So if you're doing that for a $50 PPS or even a $100 PPS then you need to also add in and give a big push to something that can really make you some money and not just that quick dollar that doesn't last. I still have rebills from years ago from specific sites. And they all fit the criteria of a girl with exclusive content who interacts with her members. ![]() P.S.: To all the review sites who try to say that streaming only will "kill rebills", I would say that my stats overall for claudia-marie.com tell a much different tale. </business thread> |
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"Personality" Solo Girl sites will always do well
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Oh yeah...Our number one affiliate is a little site called Boobster
Not a huge traffic site by any means. No fancy designs. Just a small site run by hand by a cool guy. I've had him send 37 sales in a single day. He has the oldest rebilling member on our site. The member joined through Boobsters affiliate link on April 23, 2007 which was right as we were opening the site. As I'm looking at the page of our oldest rebills...he and Joggs fill that page up. And I fill their bank accounts accordingly ![]() |
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Good thread. :-)
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And thats why we keep adding your FHGs ;))))
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We appreciate that.
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Great thread! bump!
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Nice thread Robbie. Bump.
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Bump for a great thread. I keep telling people stop complaining about your horrible ratios with the big guys, everyone's promoting them it's time to find something fresh.
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Nice
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I have one member I've made $350 with. However I'm also 1:16000 with the program. I do like rev- share in quite a few instances, but you really need to be able to trust the program operator.
Both payout structures have their benefits. I personally like to split them. |
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Yeah that's very true, because a certain pct. of members just stays forever.
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I still have rebills from years ago from specific sites. And they all fit the criteria of a girl with exclusive content who interacts with her members. ![]() </business thread>[/QUOTE] This was my glimmer of hope in the whole post. ![]() Robbie I love ur threads and I've even learned a couple things from you, thanx ![]() |
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Just keep Kevin's pasty white butt off of camera and the skies the limit! lol But seriously, you are a true sweetheart and a beautiful girl. Personally I'd like to put you in a little thong, bend you over and...er, excuse me, I got carried away. ![]() ![]() |
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I am all about the revenue share. Many of the solo girls I promote make 3x more per month from rebills than they do from initial sales while I am still steadily promoting them.
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I know some people are wary of it and worried that they will get screwed over in the long run. Well, I've been an affiliate of hundreds of programs for the last 12 years. Maybe once or twice I've lost out because a program went under or for whatever reasons. But I just checked my "all time" stats on stats remote for everything I do. It only goes back to 2003 so it doesn't count my money from the late '90's up to 2003. But doing strictly revshare everywhere I could (the exceptions were programs that didn't offer it...like NastyDollars) I've netted $3,407,478.28 over the last 5 years. That's not bad, not bad at all. ![]() |
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Hey Robbie does Claudia Marie have a profile at Loco Spot yet?
Great topic. Solo girls will always do great if they have the personality.
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Sweet. The newsletter goes out tomorrow Ill ad a plug to her site.
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Over and over again I read how the past 2-3 years were the worse on record for many programs and affiliates and if this sucks, I would have been a millionaire quick in the golden days. At any rate there is still good money to be made in adult if you think outside of the box. 75% of my income is from promoting solo girls and have a growing network of 400+ sites which target them. I am in this for the long run and revenue share is definitely my preferred choice after seeing the results over the previous years. Yeah, so I had a point to my reply I just kind of forgot what it was... ![]() On a side note I plan to promote Claudia Marie very soon. ![]()
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Congrats, every affiliate program is about to contact him now. WG
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Sometimes it seems like GFY is just full of magical mystery millionaires with secret traffic and secret sales. Bro, I don't care who knows where I make my money. I work hard to make sure that I can compete with anybody at anytime. ![]() |
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This is an important line for affiliate reps everywhere to read... Successful affiliates already know what works for them, and no amount of high pps offers, prepaid deals, or false promises of converting at 1:100 will make them change their links if they don't like your sites/content.
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I love sites that rebill well. There's nothing like waking up in the morning and already seeing a bunch of rebills knowing that while you were sleeping you made a nice days worth of work already.
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His methods are old and still the best. Know your product thoroughly. Know your customer base even better. Provide them with what they are looking for. Seems so simple, yet it's so lost on so many people. Oh by the way Rob, "Dr. Danza" starred today in a future Claudia-Marie episode entitled "Rip Fuck" She came in to see the "doctor" wanting a procedure done to make her boobs hang lower and also to have her asshole opened more so that her butt will flop better when she does the "booty hop" The procedures were successful... ![]() |
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It's not just solo girl sites bro!
This is an old cap but i just checked and the customer is still active. ![]() 77 rebills This affiliate of mine has pocketed over $920.00 off just this one customer. http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/ccbill-cap.jpg ![]() |
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I saw those stats when you originally posted. And you're right...there are some sites that are not solo sites that are run by people like you who love this business and take pride in what you do. To people like you, your site is more than just a "product"
I'd say you're a lot like me in that respect in that what we do is a labor of love just as much as it is a business. Nothing running on "autopilot" or in the hands of employees. From what I can tell about you, you keep your hand on the wheel of your websites. |
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Somewhere on GFY a few people posted some stats of their oldest members... The best are the ACH ones because there is no expiry date
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I remember telling him that he's a fool for not using ccbill's check option because he was getting a lot of refunds, or giving, whatever you know what i mean. anyways, It's true you do give a lot of check refunds but the retention ratio on check signups is GOLDEN. |
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I would think that the check option doesn't have an expiration date like a debit/visa card does...so yeah that can rebill indefinitely as long as the member doesn't change banks. Never thought of that before.
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a very good thread
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Great post.
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Robbie, does CM have a blog/diary/journal on her site?
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I'm sending way too little than I would like too to Claudia Marie and Soloslutcash but 1:199 signups wholetime aint bad...... Over 50% reccuring after 1st month is just splendid.
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She doesn't have a blog or diary per se. What we did was we put a members forum in, an email form that goes directly to her, and then we do webcam shows for our members as well. The webcam shows aren't like the Camz or Webcams or any of the third party camshows. I bought the cam software and put it on my own server and we are self sustaining with it. It doesn't cost our members anything to go "private" or anything. It's just part of their membership...
And since we are sort of "episodic" with our updates, it gives the feeling that you are witnessing Claudia-Marie's adventures too. So no we haven't done the blog/diary thing. She spends a lot of time communicating with members one on one via email and PM on the message board. |
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Hey Robbie, signed up for your program, but it wont let me log in lol
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I have to approve your account. Give me a sec
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Hi Shawn. I remember you. I thought for a second here that the elusive Mr. Healy had made an appearance. I icq'ed him and told him the account is now active. Also if you need a user/pass just let me know. My icq is in my profile here.
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Since the first gallery I built, quality solo girl, bdsm, and tranny sites promoted via revshare have accounted for 98% of my efforts, and my sales.
I have less than 5 programs in the combined rotation of 2 submitters that are not revshare. To date, my longest running active rebill is currently at 47 months for Raven Riley. You can't beat quality revshare sites, imho. Quality being the operative word, of course.
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And as BV pointed out, great niche sites that truly understand the niche are great as well. I STILL have some old Blacks On Blondes rebills with Epoch from 1999! It's simply amazing. Also on dating sites...I always went with revshare from day one. I'd see others going for PPS and PPC, but I just shrugged and kept the revshare going. AFF still pays some of the bills around here. Once people join those dating sites they stay hooked forever too. |
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I agree with you, but it has to be a site that the model is heavily involved with the site. Most of the teen solo sites for example wouldn't do as well.
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