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Old 02-10-2009, 10:41 AM   #1
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The best advice you'll ever recieve on this board..

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that won't get you anywhere.

my lips to your ears.

when i stopped crusading i immediately started to make more money.

everyone should mind their own business and just make money now.

let the courts sort it out.
It came from AlienQ's thread about Shap and Twistys advertising on illegal tube sites.

Adapt or die, that's what it's about now, and Shap adapted as he doesn't want to die. If you keep running your mouth trying to take down the illegal tube sites instead of worrying about how you could profit from it also, then you will die.

Thanks for the advice Airek!
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:42 AM   #2
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So Airek was putting his lips on a guys ears! Where are the photos and videos.

And he is right.
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Or you adapt and legislation gets passed meant to protect the movie industry and it also applies to us and you:

1) Go to jail.
2) Get sued to the point of bankruptcy.
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Or you adapt and legislation gets passed meant to protect the movie industry and it also applies to us and you:

1) Go to jail.
2) Get sued to the point of bankruptcy.
How does that apply here? Unless you make an illegal tube site, you cannot be sued or go to jail for profiting from an illegal tube. You think they are gonna lock Shap up for advertising on it?
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I spent thousands advertising on illegal tubes every month and it makes me tons of money. Money you fucking faggots won't make me. So I don't give a shit.
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I spent thousands advertising on illegal tubes every month and it makes me tons of money. Money you fucking faggots won't make me. So I don't give a shit.
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What do you expect them to say? Those running illegal tubes or supporting illegal tubes are going to say "mind your own business." They want you to be quiet. They don't want you to bring attention to it.

You don't have to crusade against it, but you certainly don't have to agree with it or stop posting about it.
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So Airek was putting his lips on a guys ears! Where are the photos and videos
In juicy's secret vault. the ears are just the beginning
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I know you get it, but to reinforce something - the reason people like me and shap are going to tubes is because it's impossible to get any affiliates who are worth a shit these days. They either want insane PPS, have stupid requests or are 95% of affiliates that signup and don't do shit. Or they are a program who promises you the world and doesn't provide their end of the bargain after you send them sales. (so common these days)

So from my perspective I am happy to support these companies because they support me. They convert for me, and they make money. So it's a great relationship. If people on GFY acted like they did from a money changing hands position, I'd be happy to spend the money and support affiliates here. But 1) no one here has traffic and 2) they are all full of shit, and a bunch of tools.

So I will go where the money is. Our industry is full of morons who just plain "don't get it."
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I know you get it, but to reinforce something - the reason people like me and shap are going to tubes is because it's impossible to get any affiliates who are worth a shit these days. They either want insane PPS, have stupid requests or are 95% of affiliates that signup and don't do shit. Or they are a program who promises you the world and doesn't provide their end of the bargain after you send them sales. (so common these days)

So from my perspective I am happy to support these companies because they support me. They convert for me, and they make money. So it's a great relationship. If people on GFY acted like they did from a money changing hands position, I'd be happy to spend the money and support affiliates here. But 1) no one here has traffic and 2) they are all full of shit, and a bunch of tools.

So I will go where the money is. Our industry is full of morons who just plain "don't get it."
Amen, but in GFY's defense, there are quite a few here who do have traffic, they just are modest and don't throw around who they are or anything like that. Shit the other day I saw a post by someone that looked strikingly familiar and I looked into it, he happened to be someone who does 200k+ daily on a NON-TGP/MGP site. It's just all the talkers are bullshit and don't have anything but their whiny excuses.
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Amen, but in GFY's defense, there are quite a few here who do have traffic, they just are modest and don't throw around who they are or anything like that. Shit the other day I saw a post by someone that looked strikingly familiar and I looked into it, he happened to be someone who does 200k+ daily on a NON-TGP/MGP site. It's just all the talkers are bullshit and don't have anything but their whiny excuses.
Sure. 1% of people on this board make money. I'd love to support that 1%, but you can't. They don't have easy advertising options. They aren't open to cross sells etc. What I am saying is even the elite top dogs aren't adapting to dynamic media and I am a SMALLLLLL leak these guys are losing. SMALLLLLLL. Imagine what AFF spends on tubes daily. I know they have to spend 50x what I do. This is money lost to even those massive guys who know what they are doing.
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What do you expect them to say? Those running illegal tubes or supporting illegal tubes are going to say "mind your own business." They want you to be quiet. They don't want you to bring attention to it.

You don't have to crusade against it, but you certainly don't have to agree with it or stop posting about it.
Agreed, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I think it's entertaining listening to all the excuses how these guys justify it.
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Sure. 1% of people on this board make money. I'd love to support that 1%, but you can't. They don't have easy advertising options. They aren't open to cross sells etc. What I am saying is even the elite top dogs aren't adapting to dynamic media and I am a SMALLLLLL leak these guys are losing. SMALLLLLLL. Imagine what AFF spends on tubes daily. I know they have to spend 50x what I do. This is money lost to even those massive guys who know what they are doing.
True.
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1) Go to jail.
2) Get sued to the point of bankruptcy.


V Rocks delivered!

How many of you who shout on the boards "Adapt or die" even make a living?

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V Rocks delivered!

How many of you who shout on the boards "Adapt or die" even make a living?

None of us, especially Airek, we're all mooching internet, power and food from our neighbors just to keep posting here.
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I know Airek very well he's a great man.

but I just think it's such a "internet tough guy" cliche to shout "adapt or die"
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I know Airek very well he's a great man.

but I just think it's such a "internet tough guy" cliche to shout "adapt or die"
The world is changing, people are getting more internet savvy and aren't so quick to whip out their credit cards for just any old porn because it's there. It's true all over, adapt or die, music industry, movie industry, car industry, everywhere, not just porn.

ADAPT OR DIE


TGP/MGP's are no longer king, Tubes are, and you need to realize this and move forward.
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The world is changing, people are getting more internet savvy and aren't so quick to whip out their credit cards for just any old porn because it's there. It's true all over, adapt or die, music industry, movie industry, car industry, everywhere, not just porn.

ADAPT OR DIE


TGP/MGP's are no longer king, Tubes are, and you need to realize this and move forward.
Yeah, you're looking for another 300 + replies thread where fat lame kids who celebrate every word that makes sense and every phrase that was 50 times repeated as a huge philosophy will praise you as the new saviour?

You started shit with my good friend XXXJAY, wasn't that the start of your lame ass virtual gfy fame?

Ah shit, sorry, I'll quit, no more responses from me. I prefer to have fun.
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Yeah, you're looking for another 300 + replies thread where fat lame kids who celebrate every word that makes sense and every phrase that was 50 times repeated as a huge philosophy will praise you as the new saviour?

You started shit with my good friend XXXJAY, wasn't that the start of your lame ass virtual gfy fame?

Ah shit, sorry, I'll quit, no more responses from me. I prefer to have fun.
How about you stick to the actual subject at hand instead of trying to bring flaming into it?

P.S. my claim to fame was all you idiot lemmings believing for 2 years that I worked at Google, Inc. by posting my resignation letter here, then bumping it every half year or so saying that I'm back with the company, or left them again, and you all believed it.
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How about you stick to the actual subject at hand instead of trying to bring flaming into it?

P.S. my claim to fame was all you idiot lemmings believing for 2 years that I worked at Google, Inc. by posting my resignation letter here, then bumping it every half year or so saying that I'm back with the company, or left them again, and you all believed it.
Yeah I totally believed it, hah I didn't even noticed you till you started shit with actual real people I know, cause you were just too easy to ignore.

Ok let's stick to the subject - Airek is smarter than you.
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The world is changing, people are getting more internet savvy and aren't so quick to whip out their credit cards for just any old porn because it's there. It's true all over, adapt or die, music industry, movie industry, car industry, everywhere, not just porn.

ADAPT OR DIE


TGP/MGP's are no longer king, Tubes are, and you need to realize this and move forward.
tubes are a moronic business model. this should be obvious. what industry regresses and gives more away for less profit?
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Who can give me info on these tube sites? I want to advertise
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Retox Josh - he was starting shit with XXXJAY, read this one more time.
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Retox Josh - he was starting shit with XXXJAY, read this one more time.
You think I haven't taken Airek's advice? Keep up with the crusade, obviously you haven't taken it.
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You think I haven't taken Airek's advice? Keep up with the crusade, obviously you haven't taken it.
I guess you don't need to take anyone's advice, you're doomed anyway.

Read what Airek wrote here, if you can get it I'll give you a little + .
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It came from AlienQ's thread about Shap and Twistys advertising on illegal tube sites.

Adapt or die...



Josh, I preferred this quote in the same thread you mention:

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The problem is the "affiliate" is almost dead and really in big trouble these days. Everybody I've talked to at shows and in private meetings says the same thing. The "affiliate" is on it's last breath. There aren't the whales there used to be. The power affiliates used to have has really diminished. I think the main reason for that is all the affiliate sources of traffic have been hit hard. SE, Tgps, Mgps, Submitters, Link lists etc....
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I'm just pissed when morons from the virtual world start shit with real people, web 2.0 is great so every moron can express his opinion and hide behind his nick and influence other virtual morons, that just explains the principle of web 2.0.

Fuck web 2.0.
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Ok, so now I'm confused. Is this a 'crusade' against a 'crusade'?
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I'm just fed up with fake shit, idiots with their nicks getting an 8 hour + shifts succesfully defending total moronism, trying to show their silly ass nick with every opportunity to become visible with someone who's already popular - lame.
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Josh, I preferred this quote in the same thread you mention:
Lucky for me I don't rely on being an affiliate to make my money, yay!
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Lucky for me I don't rely on being an affiliate to make my money, yay!
Yeah I'm so crushed I just burned my bridges with you, that'll be a hard recovery.
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How did that great advice affected your life so far?
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Still butt hurt that I attacked your boyfriend? Awe, I'm sorry CarlosTheCocksucker.
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Yeah, you're looking for another 300 + replies thread where fat lame kids who celebrate every word that makes sense and every phrase that was 50 times repeated as a huge philosophy will praise you as the new saviour?

You started shit with my good friend XXXJAY, wasn't that the start of your lame ass virtual gfy fame?

Ah shit, sorry, I'll quit, no more responses from me. I prefer to have fun.
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Yeah I totally believed it, hah I didn't even noticed you till you started shit with actual real people I know, cause you were just too easy to ignore.

Ok let's stick to the subject - Airek is smarter than you.
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I guess you don't need to take anyone's advice, you're doomed anyway.

Read what Airek wrote here, if you can get it I'll give you a little + .
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I'm just pissed when morons from the virtual world start shit with real people, web 2.0 is great so every moron can express his opinion and hide behind his nick and influence other virtual morons, that just explains the principle of web 2.0.

Fuck web 2.0.
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I'm just fed up with fake shit, idiots with their nicks getting an 8 hour + shifts succesfully defending total moronism, trying to show their silly ass nick with every opportunity to become visible with someone who's already popular - lame.
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Yeah I'm so crushed I just burned my bridges with you, that'll be a hard recovery.
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lamest thread ever!
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How did that great advice affected your life so far?
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take an example from Big D - just get the fuck out of here
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:40 PM   #45
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Me e-penis is small compared to the awesomeness in this thread.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:43 PM   #46
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Lucky for me I don't rely on being an affiliate to make my money, yay!
What do you do in adult? Just curious
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:01 AM   #47
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Still butt hurt that I attacked your boyfriend? Awe, I'm sorry CarlosTheCocksucker.
Haha, no need to apologize for that you don't have an argument.

You won't make gold out of pile of shit, you really won't.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:47 AM   #48
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Funny that RetardJosh would get into the subject of stolen content.

Finally a topic he can address with authority- stealing.

This is just a minor career shift for him from stealing people's money who try to hire him for work.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=878499
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:27 AM   #49
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What do you do in adult? Just curious
I do everything, just currently really don't have any sites worth making money off of via programs. Mostly I do PHP/MySQL programming.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:37 AM   #50
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How many of you who shout on the boards "Adapt or die" even make a living?
Amen toe dat shit BRO
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