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Mutt · 03-03-2009, 02:41 AM

i can't imagine the horror these guys went through - one was found and survived but the odds of the other three being alive are not good.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...ssing?MSNHPHMA

NFL player's boat found; 1 survivor, 3 still missing

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - The Coast Guard on Monday narrowed the search area for two NFL players and a third man missing since a weekend fishing trip off the Florida Gulf Coast after crews rescued a fourth man clinging to their capsized boat.

Survivor Nick Schuyler, a former University of South Florida player, told rescuers that the boat the four good friends were aboard was anchored when it flipped Saturday evening in rough seas, said Coast Guard Capt. Timothy M. Close. Schuyler, who was wearing a life vest, had been hanging onto the hull that a Coast Guard cutter discovered 35 miles off Clearwater.

The 21-foot Everglades fishing boat belongs to Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper, who, along with free-agent defensive lineman Corey Smith and former South Florida player William Bleakley, were missing.

The St. Petersburg Times reported that family members were told the four clung to their overturned boat for 12 to 16 hours Saturday night and early Sunday before three of them slipped away.

The Coast Guard wouldn't speculate on the men's chances of survival, but Petty Officer Robert Simpson said their size and good health were advantages. Cooper, 26, is 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, and the 29-year-old Smith is 6-foot-2, 250 pounds. The 25-year-old Bleakley had played tight end.

"With all of these men being past, present football players, they do have a much larger physique than a lot of people," he said. "So their odds are going to be definitely in their favor."

Their families have said they had life vests and flares aboard.

Schuyler was conscious but appeared weak as he was being taken off a helicopter at Tampa General Hospital and placed on a stretcher. His father said his son was in serious but stable condition and that he "looks OK."

"He's got some cuts and bruises. He's dehydrated," said Stuart Schuyler.

Schuyler's mother, Marsha Schuyler, said her son told her that he survived by thinking about how he didn't want her to go to his funeral.

The family's joy at him being found alive was tempered by the search for his friends.

"We still have three men missing, and we're not going to talk too much until we find these guys," said his father, Stuart Schuyler. "We're all praying for them. These guys are all very close friends."

Searchers had previously covered 16,000 square miles of ocean but the area being searched was much smaller since they found Schuyler, Close said.

Smith's family planned to drive to Florida from Richmond, Va., Tuesday, after the snowy weather in the East made getting a flight impossible, said Yolanda Newbill, one of Smith's sisters. She said they have been in contact with the Coast Guard every few hours since the search began.

"We have never lost hope," Newbill said. "We have total faith that (he) will be coming home."

Ray Sanchez of Tampa, a cousin of Cooper, said the family was confident the Coast Guard would find them.

"My cousin's a powerful swimmer," he said.

Bruce Cooper, the father of Marquis Cooper who is also a prominent sportscaster for KPNX-TV in Phoenix, said in a statement Monday that the family has been overwhelmed with calls, e-mails and text messages from well-wishers.

"We remain hopeful that Marquis will be found and returned to us," Cooper said.

James Allen, a marine safety consultant who once worked search-and-rescue operations with the Coast Guard, said the chances of finding survivors diminish after people have been in the water three days.

Survivors have been found who were floating for days, but he added "you just can't swim forever."

After 18 hours in 64-degree water, hypothermia will set in, Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class James Harless said.

The four men left Clearwater Pass early Saturday in calm weather, but heavy winds picked up through the day and the seas got heavy, with waves of 7 feet and higher, peaking at 15 feet on Sunday. A relative alerted the Coast Guard early Sunday after the men did not return as expected. The Coast Guard said it did not receive a distress signal.

The men were aboard an Everglades-manufactured boat, which is built with compressed foam encased in Fiberglas, making it difficult to sink. The weather had improved, with waves subsiding to 6 to 8 feet, National Weather Service meteorologist Todd Barron said.

However, Bob Zales, president of the National Association of Charter Boat Operators, said waves that high can capsize a boat the size of Cooper's.

"A boat that size, personally, I wouldn't get out any farther than 20 or 30 miles offshore," Zales said. "But I see people all the time 40, 50 miles offshore."

Smith, of Richmond, had 30 tackles, including three sacks, and an interception in 12 games last season for the Detroit Lions. He also played for the San Francisco 49ers and was a standout at North Carolina State.

Cooper, 26, played college ball at Washington, and has spent five seasons with five different teams, appearing in 26 games with the Buccaneers in 2004 and 2005. He's played sparingly since. He grew up in Gilbert, Ariz.

The Raiders and Lions said in separate statements that the teams hope the men will be rescued and that their thoughts and prayers go out to their families.

Zuzana Designs · 03-03-2009, 02:46 AM

I was eating dinner tonight and heard aboout this... My prayers go out to the familys ...

kmanrox · 03-03-2009, 03:46 AM

Guess THE RACE of the one they FOUND!

Scott Jack · 03-03-2009, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

Guess THE RACE of the one they FOUND!

Cracker, he could swim!

Dvae · 03-03-2009, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

Guess THE RACE of the one they FOUND!

Guess the race of the ones not found...

J. Falcon · 03-03-2009, 05:41 AM

Too bad they weren't Cowboys...

I keed, I keed.

beerptrol · 03-03-2009, 05:41 AM

"The 21-foot Everglades fishing boat"

Is that type of boat ment to be taken that far from shore?

The Seduction of Art · 03-03-2009, 09:35 AM

Smith has to be like "Please God, don't let me die a Detroit Lion."

justinsain · 03-03-2009, 09:59 AM

It's a sad situation and there is no hope in finding any more survivors

With that said, they made so many mistakes it's no surprise as to the outcome.

They went too far offshore for that kind of boat. It had a single engine which would have left them stranded in the case of a mechanical malfunction

They were probably going grouper fishing which is off season so they were basically alone out there.

They went out with a major cold front coming straight at them. With all the weather forecasting information available literally at your finger tips there is no good excuse to NOT know the conditions you will be experiencing.

It's hard to imagine anyone doing one of the above but all three would certainly prove fatal

mikesouth · 03-03-2009, 10:01 AM

It isnt the size of the boat its the sea conditions, a 21 foot boat is fine on a calm day and can handle rough water fine if the captain has any experience at all

These idiots however went out on a day when there were small craft advisories

sorry but the dumb mother fuckers deserve to die, just darwin at work y'all

mikesouth · 03-03-2009, 10:04 AM

my cousins a powerful swimmer that dumb cocksucker even the best swimmer cant swim in even a moderate current of 3 knots no wonder they play football for a living...too fucking stupid to have any other job

porndotnet · 03-03-2009, 10:07 AM

This has been all over the news down here. It's a shame.

justinsain · 03-03-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

It isnt the size of the boat its the sea conditions, a 21 foot boat is fine on a calm day and can handle rough water fine if the captain has any experience at all

These idiots however went out on a day when there were small craft advisories

sorry but the dumb mother fuckers deserve to die, just darwin at work y'all

Hull design plays a big part as well. You could take a 21' flats boat 50 miles offshore on a calm day but it's not a good idea. I'm guessing this was a boat designed for backwater fishing so taking it that far offshore in any conditions is a bit risky.

Scott McD · 03-03-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

"The 21-foot Everglades fishing boat"

Is that type of boat ment to be taken that far from shore?

By the looks of things, nope...

UFGators2007 · 03-03-2009, 11:18 AM

That boat should not have been out there in that weather. You barely want to take a 26' out on the weather. Idiots!

Also, it was nice of them to keep airing this story when another boat was lost on Lake Okeechobee in Florida in the same weekend. That boat only had normal people, not NFL mensa candidates.

03-03-2009, 02:41 AM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	NFL Players lost at sea i can't imagine the horror these guys went through - one was found and survived but the odds of the other three being alive are not good. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...ssing?MSNHPHMA NFL player's boat found; 1 survivor, 3 still missing TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - The Coast Guard on Monday narrowed the search area for two NFL players and a third man missing since a weekend fishing trip off the Florida Gulf Coast after crews rescued a fourth man clinging to their capsized boat. Survivor Nick Schuyler, a former University of South Florida player, told rescuers that the boat the four good friends were aboard was anchored when it flipped Saturday evening in rough seas, said Coast Guard Capt. Timothy M. Close. Schuyler, who was wearing a life vest, had been hanging onto the hull that a Coast Guard cutter discovered 35 miles off Clearwater. The 21-foot Everglades fishing boat belongs to Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper, who, along with free-agent defensive lineman Corey Smith and former South Florida player William Bleakley, were missing. The St. Petersburg Times reported that family members were told the four clung to their overturned boat for 12 to 16 hours Saturday night and early Sunday before three of them slipped away. The Coast Guard wouldn't speculate on the men's chances of survival, but Petty Officer Robert Simpson said their size and good health were advantages. Cooper, 26, is 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, and the 29-year-old Smith is 6-foot-2, 250 pounds. The 25-year-old Bleakley had played tight end. "With all of these men being past, present football players, they do have a much larger physique than a lot of people," he said. "So their odds are going to be definitely in their favor." Their families have said they had life vests and flares aboard. Schuyler was conscious but appeared weak as he was being taken off a helicopter at Tampa General Hospital and placed on a stretcher. His father said his son was in serious but stable condition and that he "looks OK." "He's got some cuts and bruises. He's dehydrated," said Stuart Schuyler. Schuyler's mother, Marsha Schuyler, said her son told her that he survived by thinking about how he didn't want her to go to his funeral. The family's joy at him being found alive was tempered by the search for his friends. "We still have three men missing, and we're not going to talk too much until we find these guys," said his father, Stuart Schuyler. "We're all praying for them. These guys are all very close friends." Searchers had previously covered 16,000 square miles of ocean but the area being searched was much smaller since they found Schuyler, Close said. Smith's family planned to drive to Florida from Richmond, Va., Tuesday, after the snowy weather in the East made getting a flight impossible, said Yolanda Newbill, one of Smith's sisters. She said they have been in contact with the Coast Guard every few hours since the search began. "We have never lost hope," Newbill said. "We have total faith that (he) will be coming home." Ray Sanchez of Tampa, a cousin of Cooper, said the family was confident the Coast Guard would find them. "My cousin's a powerful swimmer," he said. Bruce Cooper, the father of Marquis Cooper who is also a prominent sportscaster for KPNX-TV in Phoenix, said in a statement Monday that the family has been overwhelmed with calls, e-mails and text messages from well-wishers. "We remain hopeful that Marquis will be found and returned to us," Cooper said. James Allen, a marine safety consultant who once worked search-and-rescue operations with the Coast Guard, said the chances of finding survivors diminish after people have been in the water three days. Survivors have been found who were floating for days, but he added "you just can't swim forever." After 18 hours in 64-degree water, hypothermia will set in, Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class James Harless said. The four men left Clearwater Pass early Saturday in calm weather, but heavy winds picked up through the day and the seas got heavy, with waves of 7 feet and higher, peaking at 15 feet on Sunday. A relative alerted the Coast Guard early Sunday after the men did not return as expected. The Coast Guard said it did not receive a distress signal. The men were aboard an Everglades-manufactured boat, which is built with compressed foam encased in Fiberglas, making it difficult to sink. The weather had improved, with waves subsiding to 6 to 8 feet, National Weather Service meteorologist Todd Barron said. However, Bob Zales, president of the National Association of Charter Boat Operators, said waves that high can capsize a boat the size of Cooper's. "A boat that size, personally, I wouldn't get out any farther than 20 or 30 miles offshore," Zales said. "But I see people all the time 40, 50 miles offshore." Smith, of Richmond, had 30 tackles, including three sacks, and an interception in 12 games last season for the Detroit Lions. He also played for the San Francisco 49ers and was a standout at North Carolina State. Cooper, 26, played college ball at Washington, and has spent five seasons with five different teams, appearing in 26 games with the Buccaneers in 2004 and 2005. He's played sparingly since. He grew up in Gilbert, Ariz. 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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	"The 21-foot Everglades fishing boat" Is that type of boat ment to be taken that far from shore?

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justinsain Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,374	It's a sad situation and there is no hope in finding any more survivors With that said, they made so many mistakes it's no surprise as to the outcome. They went too far offshore for that kind of boat. It had a single engine which would have left them stranded in the case of a mechanical malfunction They were probably going grouper fishing which is off season so they were basically alone out there. They went out with a major cold front coming straight at them. With all the weather forecasting information available literally at your finger tips there is no good excuse to NOT know the conditions you will be experiencing. It's hard to imagine anyone doing one of the above but all three would certainly prove fatal

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	It isnt the size of the boat its the sea conditions, a 21 foot boat is fine on a calm day and can handle rough water fine if the captain has any experience at all These idiots however went out on a day when there were small craft advisories sorry but the dumb mother fuckers deserve to die, just darwin at work y'all __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	my cousins a powerful swimmer that dumb cocksucker even the best swimmer cant swim in even a moderate current of 3 knots no wonder they play football for a living...too fucking stupid to have any other job __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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porndotnet Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 317	This has been all over the news down here. It's a shame.

03-03-2009, 11:18 AM	#15
UFGators2007 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,739	That boat should not have been out there in that weather. You barely want to take a 26' out on the weather. Idiots! Also, it was nice of them to keep airing this story when another boat was lost on Lake Okeechobee in Florida in the same weekend. That boat only had normal people, not NFL mensa candidates. __________________ "I use the Google to pull up maps."