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Old 02-27-2009, 01:35 AM   #1
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I am Looking 4 a Script That Does ALL of This.. Programmers Step Inside.

Ok, in looking at what is out there, and what I want I will give the basic overview of what I am looking for. I am sure others are as well, and that's great. However, I have not saw something full service like this yet (could be I have missed it).

I am not against custom script. However, custom script means I own the rights, and you are not going to be running off to resell it. So keep that in mind. I have talked to some coders, and companies on the idea as well. Co-development is another options. Anyways, here is what I want.

1. Something 'kinda' like Vidz.com. 1st 30/60 seconds of clip play.
*It would be even better if I could move a nav bar to a point in the video and pick WHAT PART is the 30-60 seconds.

2. One promo done. Customer can opt for the following
a. Pay monthly fee to website.
b. Pay for time, like VOD
c. Pay for the clip, and get download option for the single clip.
(I have the option in admin to toggle on which ones)

3. (Optional) the script will do screen grabs, or caps, from the clip uploaded. I can select how many I want, whatever.

4. Rotating Ad placement in clip viewing area.
*It would be nice if I could just control rotating ads from admin panel, openx for additional sales revenue. Or if I was promoting sponsors, I could plug whatever site the video is for with aff code.


Clip Management would work like this....

1. I upload my full length clip in whatever format.
2. The script then converts/makes copy/FLV for preview.
3. I type in title and description of the scene. Including models in scene, and website url (this info searchable).
4. Script then thumbnails, or screen grabs.
5. Post to script/site.


What would make this even better would be if I can upload all my clips into a 'temp' folder and then manage them into the script from there. That way I am not working with some web interface that will crash out during the upload like many are prone to do.

I am not a programmer. So I do not know the limitations of server, script, resources, extra things needed on the server and so forth. Nor do I claim to be. That said, if there is going to be something additional needed, I would have to ask PHAT on that.

If you are programmer interested in this gig. Please take a moment to work up time line, cost, requirements needed, any specs I have not thought of, thinking of, do not know of so I can plan accordingly.

I want this script for myself, and willing to pay for it. So custom is fine. But refer to above remarks about me paying full development costs. I am trying to take about 3-5 different site concepts off my white board, and just do one site. Better spending my time and resources promoting one site.

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One more thing I forgot...

You must incorporate the main adult payment gateways, and allow for merchant account.
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i could do it but it wont be cheap. someone here will always do it for cheaper. if you goto rentacoder, an indian dude will do it at 1/10 of the price. good luck.
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Another point of clarification.

Uploading into the 'temp' folder on server would be via FTP. So I would manage the conversion process from the web interface. Steps as follows...

1. I upload full length clip to 'temp' folder on server via FTP.
2. I log into control panel/admin area/web interface. I can see clip(s) in temp folder and select.
3. Convert/make copy of FLV for streaming option.
4. Type in Title, Description, Model Names, Website url
5. Screen grab/thumbnail piece (optional)
6. Save.


At which point the clip then is viewable to public, and available for sale via VOD, clip sale, or membership.
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i would recommend find as much open source solution or component of the project as possible. then have someone patch em together. sourceforge.net comes to mind.
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i would recommend find as much open source solution or component of the project as possible. then have someone patch em together. sourceforge.net comes to mind.
Yeah. I normally try and do that... since I am not a programmer, nor speak programmer techie talk. I try and find something close to what I am looking for. Typically a handful or sites, and make a list of the features I want, what I like and do on about the different sites and come up with a common solution.

I am trying to simply my use of time and resources. Not having to do clip store, VOD, tube site, pay site. Working on one site for my 1000+ clips and then I can work on promoting ONE site more a less.

It is more cost effective, and a better use of my time and resources than doing 10 or 20 sites to accomplish the same thing. Then I could go full blast on one site.

Thanks for the site and tips. When it comes to trying to deal with programming crap.. Always appreciated.
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You'll need ffmpeg installed on the server, probably not a problem lol just saying.
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You'll need ffmpeg installed on the server, probably not a problem lol just saying.
Yep. I think konrad already had me get PHAT to install that on the server for a different project for one of my celeb sites.

It is still in development, and bit less complex that this script request.
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Start a new trend.... make it a contest and offer $200 for it to be done

In all seriousness don't go to rentacoder or hire anyone cheap for something like this... get someone who knows wtf they are doing.
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This is actually very simple to do. But yeah it all depends on the level of coder you hire to do it. I'd say it could cost anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple thousand depending on who does it and how elaborate you want it.
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In all seriousness don't go to rentacoder or hire anyone cheap for something like this... get someone who knows wtf they are doing.
Lol... on contest....

Agreed. This is something where the code has to be solid. I would not go to RAC for something like this. They are good for nick nack bullshit projects. I would not trust them with some like this.

I have had people contact me on this already, and I have thrown the idea around the past few months. Some had talked about developing the idea, and then cutting development cost for resale. Others talked about co-development splitting the cost. I keep my options open while looking at new shit.

That said.. I have finally gotten around to working out all the steps needed for a programmer, and 'saw the vision' so to speak. Typically they like to have as much detail, and how I plan things working in steps, and all that shit. Very time consuming to work out at times, but I can see why they need it.

Now, I just need a konrad, or minusbit or some wizard who knows all pieces needed, and can work this up. So we'll see what kinda quotes I get. I am sure they will be the normal $1000-10,000.00.
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Now, I just need a konrad, or minusbit or some wizard who knows all pieces needed, and can work this up. So we'll see what kinda quotes I get. I am sure they will be the normal $1000-10,000.00.
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This is actually very simple to do. But yeah it all depends on the level of coder you hire to do it. I'd say it could cost anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple thousand depending on who does it and how elaborate you want it.
I guess we'll see who can handle it. Sometimes, you get people who can handle code, but not the API, or some piece, but not the ffmeg, or whatever. You just never know.

However, I want solid code, and I want it to work as described in the steps. I will get someone to whip up a design, and draw it out by hand on what I am looking for.

Since I am going to be the only one uploading, there will need to be no social network piece of it. As for the advertising, I can plug in my OpenX (or other code) easy enough. But the key is to eliminate some of this double work for me so I can concentrate on new things I am doing.

There is no need for me to upload a clip 10 times. I mean, sure every clip store, and site serves a purpose and free money is free money. But at the same time, instead of me promoting 10 sites. I can narrow it down to ONE.

Which is a better use of my time. Regardless of the cost of the script. Making it well worth it.
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bashing rentacoder is stupid, there are good and bad there
Ok. Let me preface it, or put it in context for you then chief....

"In my experience, and with some 50+ projects, of varying types and difficulty, over 2-3 years off RAC, and scripting sites"... (insert my previous remarks)

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Yeah. I normally try and do that... since I am not a programmer, nor speak programmer techie talk. I try and find something close to what I am looking for. Typically a handful or sites, and make a list of the features I want, what I like and do on about the different sites and come up with a common solution.

I am trying to simply my use of time and resources. Not having to do clip store, VOD, tube site, pay site. Working on one site for my 1000+ clips and then I can work on promoting ONE site more a less.

It is more cost effective, and a better use of my time and resources than doing 10 or 20 sites to accomplish the same thing. Then I could go full blast on one site.

Thanks for the site and tips. When it comes to trying to deal with programming crap.. Always appreciated.
no prob. good luck.
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Quick reading the whole selection thing could be easily done via the player, good idea, to bad I'm busy with my own stuff or it'd be a fun challenge to work on. Good luck man, heres my bump and subscription to keep an eye on this bad boy :D
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I feel our new product can do most you want out of the box...
I dont think there is an out of the box script that does it all though.. in that case something custom will maybe your best bet..
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I feel our new product can do most you want out of the box...
I dont think there is an out of the box script that does it all though.. in that case something custom will maybe your best bet..
I will keep playing with your goodie a bit more and make a decision from there.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #42
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I will keep playing with your goodie a bit more and make a decision from there.
Ah cool so you did receive my e-mail.. cool..lemme know what you think later..
Let me remind you that we didn't release yet, so tweaks might still be possible
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Ah cool so you did receive my e-mail.. cool..lemme know what you think later..
Let me remind you that we didn't release yet, so tweaks might still be possible
I got your original e-mail with demo.

I played with it a bit the other day. I will send you my feedback privately on it.
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I got your original e-mail with demo.

I played with it a bit the other day. I will send you my feedback privately on it.
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Bump for you. Good help is hard to find...
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Here's some pointers to help you

Can't handle this at this time, but here is a ballpark figure with some pointers to give you some ideas as it seems this is an important script for you...


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[B]1. Something 'kinda' like Vidz.com. 1st 30/60 seconds of clip play.
*It would be even better if I could move a nav bar to a point in the video and pick WHAT PART is the 30-60 seconds.
This is more complicated than you think - play 30 seconds? total or at a time? if you want to limit the session to 30 secs max, then you need a vod player that is tracking user time. Think around $2-3k for that. If on hitting play, the clock counts down, but can be reset on skipping to another section, then $3-500 for a basci custm player

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2. One promo done. Customer can opt for the following
a. Pay monthly fee to website.
b. Pay for time, like VOD
c. Pay for the clip, and get download option for the single clip.
(I have the option in admin to toggle on which ones)
Basic options, figure about 7-10hrs to complete with all the biller/admin APIs, so around $500-$1000

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3. (Optional) the script will do screen grabs, or caps, from the clip uploaded. I can select how many I want, whatever.
Very simple ffmpeg or mplayer script - $100

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4. Rotating Ad placement in clip viewing area.
*It would be nice if I could just control rotating ads from admin panel, openx for additional sales revenue. Or if I was promoting sponsors, I could plug whatever site the video is for with aff code.
Has to be included in the custom player. either pre- or post-roll. It calls a simple XML file, that is dynamic so you can control what it shows. So basic dynamic XML script generation $100 tack on an extra $100 for the fussy nonsense that goes with "customisation"

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Clip Management would work like this....

1. I upload my full length clip in whatever format.
2. The script then converts/makes copy/FLV for preview.
3. I type in title and description of the scene. Including models in scene, and website url (this info searchable).
4. Script then thumbnails, or screen grabs.
5. Post to script/site.


What would make this even better would be if I can upload all my clips into a 'temp' folder and then manage them into the script from there. That way I am not working with some web interface that will crash out during the upload like many are prone to do.
Your "what would make this better" is the better way to code stuff like this - keep everything offline etc, exactly for the reason you stated. *IF* and this is very very important, you have a server that is perfectly setup to run ffmpeg *and* mplayer (for wmv's) with all the codecs working between them, *THEN* this is quite straightforward and is around $800-$1.3k, depending upon what CMS this is using (extensive or simple plugin)

So, if I were to quote you, which I can't, I'd say you shouldn't be shocked at $5k quote

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Can't handle this at this time, but here is a ballpark figure with some pointers to give you some ideas as it seems this is an important script for you...




This is more complicated than you think - play 30 seconds? total or at a time? if you want to limit the session to 30 secs max, then you need a vod player that is tracking user time. Think around $2-3k for that. If on hitting play, the clock counts down, but can be reset on skipping to another section, then $3-500 for a basci custm player



Basic options, figure about 7-10hrs to complete with all the biller/admin APIs, so around $500-$1000



Very simple ffmpeg or mplayer script - $100



Has to be included in the custom player. either pre- or post-roll. It calls a simple XML file, that is dynamic so you can control what it shows. So basic dynamic XML script generation $100 tack on an extra $100 for the fussy nonsense that goes with "customisation"


Your "what would make this better" is the better way to code stuff like this - keep everything offline etc, exactly for the reason you stated. *IF* and this is very very important, you have a server that is perfectly setup to run ffmpeg *and* mplayer (for wmv's) with all the codecs working between them, *THEN* this is quite straightforward and is around $800-$1.3k, depending upon what CMS this is using (extensive or simple plugin)

So, if I were to quote you, which I can't, I'd say you shouldn't be shocked at $5k quote

Bravo man.

Thanks for taking the time to break it down. It really helps someone, like myself, who has the vision but not the techie knowledge on what is needed.

Nope. $5000.00 quote doesn't shock me.

I have been receiving quotes from $1000-3000.00 before the last couple people asking for $20,000.00. This includes boards, and postings on scripting sites.
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Our software can already do all that you described from my skimming the thread.

www.PaysiteCMS.com

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