Vodafone can go fuck themselves (sad story)

[CarlosTheGaucho]

It's a long and painful story of idiocy and incompetence of the second (or first?) biggest company in the world, of course living in a country full of mediocre lazy people who are only trying to fuck you over is not a plus either.

So I'm their customer for like 5 years now, paying for their incredibly overpriced services.

This means a USB modem for my laptop plus a monthly fee that covers some prepaid minutes and sms and so on.

First thing I hate about them is they're charging you to death if you call / use your phone abroad, so I always get me a local phone number when I'm in US or Germany or anywhere abroad.

They charge you like $ 1,50 a minute and I'm not gonna pay anyone $ 1,50 a minute for a one minute of silly conversation over the phone.

Sorry, I'm not - this is simple economy, you would not even pay a hooker here $ 1.50 for a minute of sex if you do the maths, so why pay it to a phone company when I'm travelling a lot and it would actually be a vital part of my bills.

And I never even got a sponsored mobile, since I use the same reliable good old cell phone since 2003 and there is nothing in this world that would ever make me need or want completely worthless things like a camera or those magical things that I can't even spell like bluetooth etc.

I really only use calling, texting, the calendar, alarm and sometimes a calculator for exchange rates, so if we went back to 1999 I would be completely happy as phones were even more durable and the battery lasted for a week.

But now, my cell phone is over it's zenith already - It's going to be dead soon and I also need wi fi so I can get online if there would be anything urgent and I was in a modern gay bar with wi fi or something.

So I want the new fancy Nokia E71 (I even learned the type number already) it's quite handy and a good friend of mine who's an American living in Prague and does some journalism recommended it to me, this is how it looks like, it's a metal piece of junk:



I'm checking the prices for my monthly plan and holy shit they want to give me a SPONSORED price of 300 USD!

Ok, it's a piece of junk made in China that costs them 10 USD including shipping, why should I pay this when I pay them regular money for the past 5 years? I never even got any sponsored phone from them as I was using the same one for the past 6 years.

Plus I have an offer from T Mobile and they give this cell phone to me if I sign with them for a year.

This is very logical from the side of T Mobile because they get

a) more market share

b) some, very minor, additional income as I won't stop calling anytime soon and I really don't plan to limit my phone use

c) their competition gets a bad reference that I will massively spread around, like here and I will make more people behave like me

So T-Mobile is doing the right thing, although they are also expensive like crazy and their services will suck the same, I'll at least get a new phone and a new more convenient plan for the same monthly fee.

But as far as I'm fair I'm giving Vodafone a chance for a counterstrike.

I call there, going through their automatic call system hell and after 10 minutes if intense virtual madness I finally get an operator on the line and get promised that someone from their customer department will call me.

This chick is finally calling me today and I tell her all my valid and logical arguments and I'm really hard on her and I go straight to the point.

She is like - "the biggest discount we can give you is a price of 200 USD"

For Christ's sake are you burglars or just idiots?

Holy shit they want to loose a customer that pays them annualy roughly around $ 1600 to save 200 $ on a piece of junk from China?

I told her, ok I like you, you have a sexy voice, if you give me the phone for 50 USD I'll stay with you, cause it's no hassle with transfering the number and so on.

She says NO.

I say ok, the most I'll pay is $ 100, that's my last word.

She says NO!

Who the hell is running this joint?

Are they out of their mind?

Socialistic idiots who are too lazy to think and didn't realized it's not 1988 anymore!

I'm cancelling the contract next month.

Have you ever experienced something like this? I did not.

[BradM]

you seem like a super angry guy
sup with that

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by BradM

you seem like a super angry guy
sup with that

Brad, it's just a pose, I'm the easiest guy in the world, just like you!

[BradM]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Brad, it's just a pose, I'm the easiest guy in the world, just like you!

no worries, just making an observation

[who]

What's difficult to understand? They want to make money from idiots, like the rest of us.

[john_63]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

It's a long and painful story of idiocy and incompetence of the second (or first?) biggest company in the world, of course living in a country full of mediocre lazy people who are only trying to fuck you over is not a plus either.

So I'm their customer for like 5 years now, paying for their incredibly overpriced services.

This means a USB modem for my laptop plus a monthly fee that covers some prepaid minutes and sms and so on.

First thing I hate about them is they're charging you to death if you call / use your phone abroad, so I always get me a local phone number when I'm in US or Germany or anywhere abroad.

They charge you like $ 1,50 a minute and I'm not gonna pay anyone $ 1,50 a minute for a one minute of silly conversation over the phone.

Sorry, I'm not - this is simple economy, you would not even pay a hooker here $ 1.50 for a minute of sex if you do the maths, so why pay it to a phone company when I'm travelling a lot and it would actually be a vital part of my bills.

And I never even got a sponsored mobile, since I use the same reliable good old cell phone since 2003 and there is nothing in this world that would ever make me need or want completely worthless things like a camera or those magical things that I can't even spell like bluetooth etc.

I really only use calling, texting, the calendar, alarm and sometimes a calculator for exchange rates, so if we went back to 1999 I would be completely happy as phones were even more durable and the battery lasted for a week.

But now, my cell phone is over it's zenith already - It's going to be dead soon and I also need wi fi so I can get online if there would be anything urgent and I was in a modern gay bar with wi fi or something.

So I want the new fancy Nokia E71 (I even learned the type number already) it's quite handy and a good friend of mine who's an American living in Prague and does some journalism recommended it to me, this is how it looks like, it's a metal piece of junk:



I'm checking the prices for my monthly plan and holy shit they want to give me a SPONSORED price of 300 USD!

Ok, it's a piece of junk made in China that costs them 10 USD including shipping, why should I pay this when I pay them regular money for the past 5 years? I never even got any sponsored phone from them as I was using the same one for the past 6 years.

Plus I have an offer from T Mobile and they give this cell phone to me if I sign with them for a year.

This is very logical from the side of T Mobile because they get

a) more market share

b) some, very minor, additional income as I won't stop calling anytime soon and I really don't plan to limit my phone use

c) their competition gets a bad reference that I will massively spread around, like here and I will make more people behave like me

So T-Mobile is doing the right thing, although they are also expensive like crazy and their services will suck the same, I'll at least get a new phone and a new more convenient plan for the same monthly fee.

But as far as I'm fair I'm giving Vodafone a chance for a counterstrike.

I call there, going through their automatic call system hell and after 10 minutes if intense virtual madness I finally get an operator on the line and get promised that someone from their customer department will call me.

This chick is finally calling me today and I tell her all my valid and logical arguments and I'm really hard on her and I go straight to the point.

She is like - "the biggest discount we can give you is a price of 200 USD"

For Christ's sake are you burglars or just idiots?

Holy shit they want to loose a customer that pays them annualy roughly around $ 1600 to save 200 $ on a piece of junk from China?

I told her, ok I like you, you have a sexy voice, if you give me the phone for 50 USD I'll stay with you, cause it's no hassle with transfering the number and so on.

She says NO.

I say ok, the most I'll pay is $ 100, that's my last word.

She says NO!

Who the hell is running this joint?

Are they out of their mind?

Socialistic idiots who are too lazy to think and didn't realized it's not 1988 anymore!

I'm cancelling the contract next month.

Have you ever experienced something like this? I did not.

I just spoke with Vod afone,

He has an extremely valid point and will resolve this at the earliest convenience.

[grumpy]

i bet they are upset now

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by who

What's difficult to understand? They want to make money from idiots, like the rest of us.

That's a brilliant point

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by john_63

I just spoke with Vod afone,

He has an extremely valid point and will resolve this at the earliest convenience.

Originally Posted by grumpy

i bet they are upset now

Are you so smart only on boards or also in real life?

I'm always fascinated how someone doesn't hesitate and comes up with something totally unrelated to the thread topic.

It's like if you would spoke with someone about the cars and wanted to solve something and all of a sudden he would start to talk about the art deco without listening to you.

Welcome to the web 2.0!

[john_63]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Are you so smart only on boards or also in real life?

I'm always fascinated how someone doesn't hesitate and comes up with something totally unrelated to the thread topic.

It's like if you would spoke with someone about the cars and wanted to solve something and all of a sudden he would start to talk about the art deco without listening to you.

Welcome to the web 2.0!

[frank7799]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I
Have you ever experienced something like this? I did not.

Yes, I did. With Vodafon, lol. I ordered a Blackberry last year and they sent me the old one which looked similar but didn´t provide gps navigating. When I asked them to change it - I used the phone when I went to the Mallorca show last year - they told me they wouldn´t exhange because the phone has been used for about 5 minutes and the only allow one for a trial. So I cancelled after about ten years and will use t-mobile instead. At least ill get the i-phone there.

[grumpy]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Are you so smart only on boards or also in real life?

I'm always fascinated how someone doesn't hesitate and comes up with something totally unrelated to the thread topic.

It's like if you would spoke with someone about the cars and wanted to solve something and all of a sudden he would start to talk about the art deco without listening to you.

Welcome to the web 2.0!

its very related and yes they are upset, i checked.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by m4yadult

Yes, I did. With Vodafon, lol. I ordered a Blackberry last year and they sent me the old one which looked similar but didn´t provide gps navigating. When I asked them to change it - I used the phone when I went to the Mallorca show last year - they told me they wouldn´t exhange because the phone has been used for about 5 minutes and the only allow one for a trial. So I cancelled after about ten years and will use t-mobile instead. At least ill get the i-phone there.

Frank, you are receiving actually much better services in Germany, I'm the happiest person in the world if I'm in Berlin or anywhere else.

They are playing with the sheep mentality that 99 pct. of people will never bite here.

[woj]

Originally Posted by john_63

[Reak AGV]

Sounds like you should take upon the TMobile offer.

[baddog]

Vodafone makes my visits to EU a lot less stressful. $15 euros a day for unlimited use may seem high, but it beats dialup.

[blonda80]

you must live in romania and be their customer from 7 yo to feel the real life. Shitty support, very expensive bills even if you don`t call as usual and many other shitty stuff!!!
i can`t tell you how many times i argued with them so i join the club "fuck vodafone"

[Si]

Who Cares?

[wjxxx]

Al you do is whining, whining and whining. What the fuck is wrong with you, commie ?

[Forest]

is this going to be another carlos meltdown thread?

if so Ill bookmark it for later when I need a laugh

[NetHorse]

Originally Posted by john_63

I just spoke with Vod afone,

He has an extremely valid point and will resolve this at the earliest convenience.

LOL, I seee what you did there.

[minddust]

Smoke a fat joint and call back tomorrow.

[maxjohan]

I dont feel like talking..but socialists sucks. They dont use logics, just emotions and what the next guy is telling them... cant make up their own mind.

F-em

[seeandsee]

just do it

[Trax]

happy t-mobile customer stopping by, saying hi in your thread

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

All right,

I'm not even feeling amused with my board persona anymore and I think I'll have to switch to Mr. Jekkyl mode again.

So I would like to thank you for the attention, it will be needed as I'm planning to launch a couple things in a very near future and troll bumps always help to keep threads sticky and bring more views.

I would like to thank you for a couple sign ups from those with game, who are left on GFY and who could read between the lines.

I'll take care of everyone personally, you will not talk to any rep, you will deal with me personally, don't expect a response on emails within minutes as I usually have a lot on my plate, but I do value every single hit that's not from China and if you send me a list of custom requirements, it is my duty to help.

I will also review your sites and suggest a solution that brings the most $ per 1000 uniques so far as I do a regular analysis of what works with affiliates the best every month.

I would like to thank Eric for GFY, even with the regular web 2.0 meltdown going on, it's still a board with certain business potential.

I would also like to apologize to those, who I put on my ignore list as I won't be able to enjoy your thoughtful contributions anymore.

Most of all, I would like to thank to Mr. Marijuana aka Notoldschool for taking this thread seriously and I hope he felt a serious web 2.0 adrenaline rush.

I wish him the best in his web 2.0 adventure and I am sure we all are looking forward to another 200 threads about his marijuana addiction I won't read.

I would like to thank everyone who bumped this, I hope I haven't scared anyone who knows me, and I hope I brought a little bit of amusement to those, who got it.

Thank you all!

P.S:

Special thanks to Juicy for the pic of Emu

[Forest]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

wow now your quoting yourself in your own thread



couldnt think of anything original to say?

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Forest

wow now your quoting yourself in your own thread



couldnt think of anything original to say?

No,

I usually have serious issues with being original, I'm very mediocre and not even from 10 pct. that smart like you.

I'm sad now, you owned me.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

No,

I'm very mediocre and not even from 10 pct.

the most original thing ive seen you post all week

[Ozarkz]

Hookers in Praque get less than 1.50 a minute!? I'm moving.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Hookers in Praque get less than 1.50 a minute!? I'm moving.

Well, of course I don't know anything about this, but the hourly rates are:

High end clubs around $150

If you go for a regular escort that works on her own it's around $100

If you go to their place and they work for themselves you can get as low as $60

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Forest

the most original thing ive seen you post all week

Please, don't tell me you have wasted the whole week reading my fake meltdown, you're smarter than that!

[Forest]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Please, don't tell me you have wasted the whole week reading my fake meltdown, you're smarter than that!

its funny how when the tides have turned on people they pull out the "it was a fake meltdown." bit

where did i hear that just recently

wait...wait it will come to me...

OH YEA

Jon Clark. Congrats you have now become like Jon Clark

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Forest

its funny how when the tides have turned on people they pull out the "it was a fake meltdown." bit

where did i hear that just recently

wait...wait it will come to me...

OH YEA

Jon Clark. Congrats you have now become like Jon Clark

Who is Jon Clark? Did you read also his threads? Is that what you do, reading worthless threads?

Much excuse I need to solve something but I will be right back chatting about life with you.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Who is Jon Clark? Did you read also his threads? Is that what you do, reading worthless threads?

Much excuse I need to solve something but I will be right back chatting about life with you.

Ive been reading yours so I guess im guilty as charged

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Forest

Ive been reading yours so I guess im guilty as charged

Let's try to get serious, let's throw away the mask.

I apologize for being a rather hostile and childish.

I wish the overall attitude of this place would be more business oriented.

Carl Borowitz from Big Sister Media, pleased to meet you,

We're a Swiss based company running the reality sex house in Prague where guys, couples, swingers get free sex and debauchery and we stream it for our pay sites and cross license it - although still mainly popular in Europe, there is more and more income from US flowing in.

Can we do anything together?

I have to say upfront that, unfortunately, I'm not looking for a merchant at the moment.

[frank7799]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Frank, you are receiving actually much better services in Germany, I'm the happiest person in the world if I'm in Berlin or anywhere else.

Service is an unknown term for phone companies in Germany.

When I move my office in 2005 I had to wait 5 fucking weeks for my connection. And I´m talking of 5 fucking weeks after the promised date. Arcor blamed t-com and vice versa. The best part is that instead of the promised 16 mbit connection they could only deliver 2 mbit.

I´m now with t-com and at least they have a stable connection, though 2mbit at my office and 768 kb at home are third world like.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by m4yadult

Service is an unknown term for phone companies in Germany.

When I move my office in 2005 I had to wait 5 fucking weeks for my connection. And I´m talking of 5 fucking weeks after the promised date. Arcor blamed t-com and vice versa. The best part is that instead of the promised 16 mbit connection they could only deliver 2 mbit.

I´m now with t-com and at least they have a stable connection, though 2mbit at my office and 768 kb at home are third world like.

Services not working in Germany? that is rather disturbing.

[frank7799]

Well, not working at all wouldn´t be correct.
Once it is set up, it works.

But if you order by Arcor or Versatel, t-com has to connect the last mile. And that´s what does not work. So if you go by t-com, you´ll get it set up qickly. So in my experience t-com is the best choice.

What I meant by service is support. Support sucks in Germany.

[John-ACWM]

They are charging a lot indeed,what company doesn't like to screw us ...

[John.]

Nokia E71s are not made in China and you won't get one anywhere for anything near $10. Great phone though, good choice