Important Issue - please read

[Mr Pheer]

Just last week, the Omnibus Public Lands Bill was voted on and failed to pass the majority vote. Senator Harry Reid, very sneakily reopened it and attached it to another bill to be voted on tomorrow, March 16th.

This bill plans to close over 2 million acres of public land and designate it as wilderness. Meaning no hunting, fishing, or offroad vehicle access will be permitted. And it will cost billions of dollars to the US taxpayers to enact and enforce the closure. This bill will close PUBLIC LAND that is open right now to you and your children to hunt, fish, hike, camp, ride dirtbikes, ATVs, or other offroad vehicles on.

Click the link below to send a letter to let our public officials know that we dont not want our public lands closed.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp

Please post this in other forums or email it to as many people as you can, time is short to spread the word about this very important issue.

[Sly]

Why are they trying to close it? Environmentalists?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Sly

Why are they trying to close it? Environmentalists?

Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

[tony286]

i clicked on the link doesnt say anything about hunting and fishing.just no vehicles

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by tony404

i clicked on the link doesnt say anything about hunting and fishing.just no vehicles

Thats because its an AMA link. If you want the full details of the bill, google it.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Omnib...lic+Lands+Bill

[collegeboobies]

Get a job patrolling it and you can do whatever you want

[HorseShit]

what the fuck

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by collegeboobies

Get a job patrolling it and you can do whatever you want

Why would I ever want to get a job? So I can make less money? And have to set an alarm clock, get dressed, drive to work every day? Have someone tell me what to do?

Um... fuck that noise.

[CyberHustler]

Sorry, I'd rather have it designated as wilderness. I'm not a fan of sport hunting, littering campers, and people fucking shit up for the wild animals with their ATV's and Dirtbikes and shit. People wanna get mad when a bear digs through their garbage but then wanna fuck up the bears land. Mother fuckers want go all crazy on their ATV's through the animals lands and then wanna get mad when a raccoon sets up a boomboom room in their attick. Fuck humanity.

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Sorry, I'd rather have it designated as wilderness. I'm not a fan of sport hunting, littering campers, and people fucking shit up for the wild animals with their ATV's and Dirtbikes and shit. People wanna get mad when a bear digs through their garbage but then wanna fuck up the bears land. Mother fuckers want go all crazy on their ATV's through the animals lands and then wanna get mad when a raccoon sets up a boomboom room in their attick. Fuck humanity.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Sorry, I'd rather have it designated as wilderness. I'm not a fan of sport hunting, littering campers, and people fucking shit up for the wild animals with their ATV's and Dirtbikes and shit. People wanna get mad when a bear digs through their garbage but then wanna fuck up the bears land. Mother fuckers want go all crazy on their ATV's through the animals lands and then wanna get mad when a raccoon sets up a boomboom room in their attick. Fuck humanity.

This wasnt a message for you. I didnt post a link for people to vote for making it a wilderness, find your own link for that, make your own thread.

Maybe you'd care about the billions of dollars this is going to take out of our already fucked up economy to enact and enforce... nah I feel like i'm preaching to the choir with you. If you like the government closing 2 million acres of your public land and using your tax dollars to do it, then whatever. Have a nice evening.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This wasnt a message for you. I didnt post a link for people to vote for making it a wilderness, find your own link for that, make your own thread.

Maybe you'd care about the billions of dollars this is going to take out of our already fucked up economy to enact and enforce... nah I feel like i'm preaching to the choir with you. If you like the government closing 2 million acres of your public land and using your tax dollars to do it, then whatever. Have a nice evening.

Shit, the government already does a bunch of stupid and fucked up things with my tax money... my taxes probably payed for a couple of bullets or went towards a bomb that vaporized some little Iraqi kid while he was sitting on his bed watching Dora. Preserving land in my country so it can stay lookin' pretty and shit and help the animals stop gettin' all fucked up is the very least of my worries about my tax dollars. But hey, different strokes for different folks... I agree to disagree and offer you to also have a very pleasant evening sir.

[2012]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This wasnt a message for you. I didnt post a link for people to vote for making it a wilderness, find your own link for that, make your own thread.

Maybe you'd care about the billions of dollars this is going to take out of our already fucked up economy to enact and enforce... nah I feel like i'm preaching to the choir with you. If you like the government closing 2 million acres of your public land and using your tax dollars to do it, then whatever. Have a nice evening.

goddamn hippies

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This wasnt a message for you. I didnt post a link for people to vote for making it a wilderness, find your own link for that, make your own thread.

Maybe you'd care about the billions of dollars this is going to take out of our already fucked up economy to enact and enforce... nah I feel like i'm preaching to the choir with you. If you like the government closing 2 million acres of your public land and using your tax dollars to do it, then whatever. Have a nice evening.

Heaven forbid you lose 500 acres of land to get fish to eat, or to ride your 4 wheelers on, and hunt your deer, to help save those fish, deer, and other wild animals from being in danger...

That's fine, lets all vote against this, and then when all the animals run out of homes to be in, we'll take them to live in your house, sound good to you?

Fucking selfish pricks.

[Libertine]

For those who are wondering: 2 million acres is slightly less than 0.1% of total US land size.

Aside from that, while the original post in this thread implies the land would be "closed off", that isn't actually true. In fact, the bill included the establishment of new hiking trails, and the protection of existing ones. Also, it included an amendment stating that lands now open to hunting and fishing would stay open for hunting and fishing.

As for the bit about vehicles (just about the only part in the original post that is actually true), anyone who has ever hiked knows just how much vehicles can damage previously unspoiled lands.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by tony404

i clicked on the link doesnt say anything about hunting and fishing.just no vehicles

Don't trust Mr Pheer's answer.

But before bringing the bill to the floor yesterday, Democrats added language from Rep. Jason Altmire (D-Pa.) designed to ensure that the omnibus would not close off lands that are already open to hunting and fishing. Rahall said the inclusion of the provision helped clear up many of the concerns some groups, including the National Rifle Association, had with the measure.

http://www.eenews.net/public/Landletter/2009/03/12/2

[WarChild]

You must've thought it was dork day toady. It's not dork day.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You must've thought it was dork day toady. It's not dork day.

Nicely done.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Heaven forbid you lose 500 acres of land to get fish to eat, or to ride your 4 wheelers on, and hunt your deer, to help save those fish, deer, and other wild animals from being in danger...

That's fine, lets all vote against this, and then when all the animals run out of homes to be in, we'll take them to live in your house, sound good to you?

Fucking selfish pricks.

You failed math huh?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Don't trust Mr Pheer's answer.



http://www.eenews.net/public/Landletter/2009/03/12/2

Ok.... WALK your ass in there, go hunting, and then carry your kill out on your back. Or just read the first article that spins the story to how you want to hear it. Try reading all of the bill, and then use your tiny pea-sized brain and try and comprehend what is really being said.

I dont care for hunting at all, but I dont think our government should use our tax dollars to close off our public lands. And some retards same I'M the one being selfish? It OUR public lands, people.

But go ahead and stand by and let the government keep taking more and more away from you, and making you pay for it, because the government says its good for you.

I'm glad you love getting fucked so hard, because the government says you should like it.

[2012]

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Ok.... WALK your ass in there, go hunting, and then carry your kill out on your back. Or just read the first article that spins the story to how you want to hear it. Try reading all of the bill, and then use your tiny pea-sized brain and try and comprehend what is really being said.

I dont care for hunting at all, but I dont think our government should use our tax dollars to close off our public lands. And some retards same I'M the one being selfish? It OUR public lands, people.

But go ahead and stand by and let the government keep taking more and more away from you, and making you pay for it, because the government says its good for you.

I'm glad you love getting fucked so hard, because the government says you should like it.

It's not about closing off public lands, you fucking idiot. It's about preserving them so that in 50 years, your grandchildren will still be able to enjoy them.

http://wyomingrangesportsmen.org/homepage.php
http://www.tu.org/site/apps/nlnet/co...519&ct=6831581
http://www.sportsmensactionnetwork.o...0383/pid/18417
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/tow_release.php?ID=140233

Check those links, and ask yourself: why do these hunters and anglers support this bill?

The answer is quite simple: because it's pretty fucking hard to hunt, fish or hike when there's no nature left. So it isn't really surprising that you, someone who "doesn't care for hunting at all", do not support this bill.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Libertine

It's not about closing off public lands, you fucking idiot. It's about preserving them so that in 50 years, your grandchildren will still be able to enjoy them.

http://wyomingrangesportsmen.org/homepage.php
http://www.tu.org/site/apps/nlnet/co...519&ct=6831581
http://www.sportsmensactionnetwork.o...0383/pid/18417
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/tow_release.php?ID=140233

Check those links, and ask yourself: why do these hunters and anglers support this bill?

The answer is quite simple: because it's pretty fucking hard to hunt, fish or hike when there's no nature left. So it isn't really surprising that you, someone who "doesn't care for hunting at all", do not support this bill.

Tell yourself whatever you need to hear.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Tell yourself whatever you need to hear.

Oh, I get it. You're not interested in actual arguments, since you're an off-road vehicle enthusiast, right?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Oh, I get it. You're not interested in actual arguments, since you're an off-road vehicle enthusiast, right?

I'm not interested in internet arguments, period. If you dont want to click the link and send an email saying you dont want the land closure, then dont click it.

I'm done here, the link is posted. Thanks for the bump.

[grumpy]

wow...if you agree you are a great person, if you disagree your an idiot.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I'm not interested in internet arguments, period.

If you're not interested in internet arguments, don't post on internet forums, you jackass.

Seriously - if you're actually going to give blatantly false information and present it as the truth, what the hell do you expect? Free cookies?

[Mr Pheer]

thanks for the bump

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

thanks for the bump

My pleasure.

Because, you know, this bill will pass eventually anyway. It got a 282-144 majority this time, so when they try again, they'll use the usual process which allows for amendments, and only need a simple majority instead of a 2/3 majority.

Your lies won't change that

[cherrylula]

go Harry

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

You failed math huh?

So the full 2million acres is in your back yard?

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Ok.... WALK your ass in there, go hunting, and then carry your kill out on your back. Or just read the first article that spins the story to how you want to hear it. Try reading all of the bill, and then use your tiny pea-sized brain and try and comprehend what is really being said.

I dont care for hunting at all, but I dont think our government should use our tax dollars to close off our public lands. And some retards same I'M the one being selfish? It OUR public lands, people.

But go ahead and stand by and let the government keep taking more and more away from you, and making you pay for it, because the government says its good for you.

I'm glad you love getting fucked so hard, because the government says you should like it.

LOL, so you don't want to have to hoof it like our ancestors did thousands of years ago because you're lazy?

GOOD MOTIVATION TO RUIN OUR PLANET!

P.S. The animals had the land first.