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Daniel-CG · 03-23-2009, 05:41 AM

First of all I would like to give a heartfelt thank you to all of the people who have given their warm welcome to our fledgling business. Second, I would like to thank all of the people who told us everything that is wrong with us especially the one who reminded us about the bad economy and told us we should pack it up now. You give us the motivation and the drive, in which to show you that we are better and please don?t forget that you are our best beta testers

and free to boot!

Here is a quick little history lesson:

-1873-1895 Worldwide Depression for 22 years (Vienna Stock Market Crash)
Startups during this period make up a large number of the Fortune 500 and this is the short list.
Eli Lilly, IBM, Merck, Hershey's, Gillette, Alcoa, J&J, Chevron, GE, AT&T, Abbott, Coors, Johnson Controls, Bristol-Myers and PPG

-1929-1939 ?The Great Depression?
Startups during this period when the stock market crashed around 90% of its value and Unemployment was around 30%.
Texas Instruments, HP, 20th Century Fox and United Technologies

-1973-1976 Oil shock and Market Crash
Startups during this period fought against a market that was down 50% and inflation was in double digits.
Fed Ex, LexisNexis, Microsoft, Genentech & Apple

-1980-1982 The Early 80?s Crisis
Startups clawed their way through mortgage rates around 21% among other issues.
Amgen, Sun, E*Trade, Autodesk, Adobe, BMC, EA and Symantec

There were many more slumps than those mentioned here but I believe my point has been made; some of this country?s largest and strongest companies were made during tough times. Perhaps it is only by being created in the refiner?s fire can we truly become a purely competitive company. Companies that were created during boom times never had to pinch a quarter until the eagle screamed, but rather had deep reserves of credit on their side allowing copious amounts of the fudge factor. This is not to say that all companies which were built in boom times will falter in the bust. However, if the down economy was the only thing you ever knew then being resourceful will be just conducting business as usual as opposed to tightening your belt.

The Fine Line
Of course with anything there is a catch, and that is the same with everything in life. You have to spend money at the same time you are tightening your belt. In other words judicious purchasing habits, reign supreme. Kellogg?s overtook Post during the Great Depression as the number one cereal producer. This happened mostly through aggressive advertising in addition to research and development of their products and brand. If you look at the companies that thrived during the depressions/recessions you will find those same qualities amongst all of them. This means that when you call into a company that has both consumer and business services (i.e. cable companies) you must be transferred to the other ?department? to complete a transaction. This is wasteful since an operator can easily switch between services on a computer screen and speak ?intelligently? on both sides. This is the type of wasteful spending that large companies will learn to cut so they can survive.

Customer Service
How many of you remember the cool toys Cracker Jacks used to come with, my favorite was the cheap assed plastic pinball machine, have you looked in one of those boxes lately? How about the toys, cereals come with or even the Dodge Neon originally came with cheap Ray-Ban knockoffs that matched the neon color of the car you purchased. Did ugly assed $5 glasses really make you buy the car or was it just a nice thing to have and made you feel more of a connection with what and whom you had made the purchase? Even ?dish night? at the movie theaters during the great depression offered glasses and plates when you paid to go to the movies, this way the movie was less of a guilty pleasure but gave you something tangible you could bring home along with the experience and keep you from making another purchase somewhere else. Companies are going to have to start learning customer service if they expect to not only survive but thrive.

Content Grove exemplifies all of the qualities and I guess we will just see who is still standing when the dust settles.
?Fight one more round, you?ll never be whipped!?

pornguy · 03-23-2009, 05:55 AM

I had No Idea that

-1873-1895 Worldwide Depression for 22 years (Vienna Stock Market Crash)
Startups during this period make up a large number of the Fortune 500 and this is the short list.
Eli Lilly, IBM, Merck, Hershey's, Gillette, Alcoa, J&J, Chevron, GE, AT&T, Abbott, Coors, Johnson Controls, Bristol-Myers and PPG

That IBM and Johnson Controls were so old.

IBM: Endicott, New York, U.S. (1889, incorporated 1911)

Johnson Controls Founded 1885

OrangeContent · 03-23-2009, 06:27 AM

Great post. I agree with your opinion on customer service. Companies and the people who work for them need to start stepping things up.

TisMe · 03-23-2009, 07:04 AM

1911 was the beginning of CTR which became IBM. CTR sold scales, timeclocks and other computing, tabulating and recording machines.

An excellent book, Father Son & Co by Thomas Watson Jr., tells the story of IBM and the Watsons, Sr and Jr.

Fascinating story if you're a history buff.

Phoenix · 03-23-2009, 07:20 AM

very cool post thanks

JimmiDean · 03-23-2009, 07:34 AM

Nice read,
Thanks

$5 submissions · 03-23-2009, 07:39 AM

Great post, thank you! It's all about perspective.

EscortBiz · 03-23-2009, 07:45 AM

all this soccer mom style motivation talk is getting old, fact is if you have a good idea it dont matter good market bad market you will do well.

these posts and emails being sent around make it seem as if in the other years those who started up where a failure lol, it just so happens that every year many start a business and every year there are winners and losers.

business startup is all a gamble and you win some you lose some and you hope that sooner or later something sticks.

Bogune · 03-23-2009, 07:49 AM

great info in that first post..makes you think eh

MrDeiz · 03-23-2009, 08:31 AM

i remember that time perfectly...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

I had No Idea that

-1873-1895 Worldwide Depression for 22 years (Vienna Stock Market Crash)
Startups during this period make up a large number of the Fortune 500 and this is the short list.
Eli Lilly, IBM, Merck, Hershey's, Gillette, Alcoa, J&J, Chevron, GE, AT&T, Abbott, Coors, Johnson Controls, Bristol-Myers and PPG

That IBM and Johnson Controls were so old.

IBM: Endicott, New York, U.S. (1889, incorporated 1911)

Johnson Controls Founded 1885

Daniel-CG · 03-23-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

i remember that time perfectly...

Ahhhh...... The good ole' days, things would have been a lot better if we didn't have that bastard Ulysses S. Grant in office, and then they put him on the $50!!!

Barefootsies · 03-23-2009, 08:48 AM

Thanks professor.

MrDeiz · 03-23-2009, 09:31 AM

really great thing was an inquisition for tube owners... it was so much fun...

and telegraph billing was just great, much more better than old pigeon one

i really miss these days...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel-CG

Ahhhh...... The good ole' days, things would have been a lot better if we didn't have that bastard Ulysses S. Grant in office, and then they put him on the $50!!!

Just_Dave · 03-23-2009, 11:34 AM

that was a good read

03-23-2009, 05:41 AM	#1
Daniel-CG Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Paradise Posts: 162	Recession And Startups First of all I would like to give a heartfelt thank you to all of the people who have given their warm welcome to our fledgling business. Second, I would like to thank all of the people who told us everything that is wrong with us especially the one who reminded us about the bad economy and told us we should pack it up now. You give us the motivation and the drive, in which to show you that we are better and please don?t forget that you are our best beta testers and free to boot! Here is a quick little history lesson: -1873-1895 Worldwide Depression for 22 years (Vienna Stock Market Crash) Startups during this period make up a large number of the Fortune 500 and this is the short list. Eli Lilly, IBM, Merck, Hershey's, Gillette, Alcoa, J&J, Chevron, GE, AT&T, Abbott, Coors, Johnson Controls, Bristol-Myers and PPG -1929-1939 ?The Great Depression? Startups during this period when the stock market crashed around 90% of its value and Unemployment was around 30%. Texas Instruments, HP, 20th Century Fox and United Technologies -1973-1976 Oil shock and Market Crash Startups during this period fought against a market that was down 50% and inflation was in double digits. Fed Ex, LexisNexis, Microsoft, Genentech & Apple -1980-1982 The Early 80?s Crisis Startups clawed their way through mortgage rates around 21% among other issues. Amgen, Sun, E*Trade, Autodesk, Adobe, BMC, EA and Symantec There were many more slumps than those mentioned here but I believe my point has been made; some of this country?s largest and strongest companies were made during tough times. Perhaps it is only by being created in the refiner?s fire can we truly become a purely competitive company. Companies that were created during boom times never had to pinch a quarter until the eagle screamed, but rather had deep reserves of credit on their side allowing copious amounts of the fudge factor. This is not to say that all companies which were built in boom times will falter in the bust. However, if the down economy was the only thing you ever knew then being resourceful will be just conducting business as usual as opposed to tightening your belt. The Fine Line Of course with anything there is a catch, and that is the same with everything in life. You have to spend money at the same time you are tightening your belt. In other words judicious purchasing habits, reign supreme. Kellogg?s overtook Post during the Great Depression as the number one cereal producer. This happened mostly through aggressive advertising in addition to research and development of their products and brand. If you look at the companies that thrived during the depressions/recessions you will find those same qualities amongst all of them. This means that when you call into a company that has both consumer and business services (i.e. cable companies) you must be transferred to the other ?department? to complete a transaction. This is wasteful since an operator can easily switch between services on a computer screen and speak ?intelligently? on both sides. This is the type of wasteful spending that large companies will learn to cut so they can survive. Customer Service How many of you remember the cool toys Cracker Jacks used to come with, my favorite was the cheap assed plastic pinball machine, have you looked in one of those boxes lately? How about the toys, cereals come with or even the Dodge Neon originally came with cheap Ray-Ban knockoffs that matched the neon color of the car you purchased. Did ugly assed $5 glasses really make you buy the car or was it just a nice thing to have and made you feel more of a connection with what and whom you had made the purchase? Even ?dish night? at the movie theaters during the great depression offered glasses and plates when you paid to go to the movies, this way the movie was less of a guilty pleasure but gave you something tangible you could bring home along with the experience and keep you from making another purchase somewhere else. Companies are going to have to start learning customer service if they expect to not only survive but thrive. Content Grove exemplifies all of the qualities and I guess we will just see who is still standing when the dust settles. ?Fight one more round, you?ll never be whipped!? __________________ --------------------------------------------------------- [email protected] \| http://www.contentgrove.com ICQ: 576094843 Changing the face of the Content Industry

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