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Old 06-04-2005, 02:22 AM   #1
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REMINDER: Pit Bulls should be shot on sight.

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Family pit bulls shred 12-yo boy

8:58 p.m. -- A 12-year-old boy was mauled to death by his family's two pit bulls this afternoon in his apartment in San Francisco's Inner Sunset District as his mother screamed helplessly.

The boy, identified by school district officials as Nicholas Scott Faibish, was in his apartment at 711 Lincoln Way when the 80-pound dogs - a male named Rex and a female named Ella - attacked him at about 3:15 p.m., authorities said.

"Get them out of here!'' the boy's mother screamed, according to a neighbor in the building who heard the attack and saw the woman moments later, covered with blood.

A police officer shot and killed one of the dogs, believed to be Ella, when the dog prevented him from entering the apartment, a police spokesman said. The other dog was captured inside the apartment and was being held by animal control officers.

Paramedics tried and failed to resuscitate the boy.

Shocked neighbors said the dogs were normally friendly, affectionate and well-behaved.

"The dogs were sweethearts,'' said Art Austin, who has lived in the building for five years. "I never thought they were vicious. They were really nice. I would pet them and my wife would kiss them on the forehead.''
WTF is someone doing with these things in a apt?

Dog owners always say, "oh, he is is really friendly...he won't hurt you."

They are full of shit. All dogs are potentially crazy. When their owners say this, they are really telling you to be careful.
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I sometimes wonder if violent pitbulls are the result of shitty owners, or if the breed just has an overly aggresive nature. It seems you only ever hear about pitbulls mauling people. I have a German Shepard who's never bit or attacked anyone in its entire life.
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No one should own a dog that is capable of killing their children and parents should be held legally responsible for endangering their children. I knew a family that had a single pitbull a couple of years before having children. They then had two children one after the other...and the children grew up around the pit bull...played with the pit bull and the pit bull was tolerant and friendly until one day he attacked and killed the four year old girl and the five year old boy. Who knows why the dog attacked...maybe he had a tooth ache...head ache...or a bad hair day.

I repeat...no one should own a dog that is capable of killing their children.
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Pit Bulls have suffered greatly (as have many other breeds) from many generations of inter-breeding, leading to skull compression and abnormal brain development. Pit bulls have teh killer instinct. If you expose your throat to them, there's a good chance they'll go for it, even if they've been hand raised from birth. And once they get their first taste of blood, they're much more likely to be aggressive with future targets. Mix this with the unchecked desire of hordes of wiggers bound and determined to own a Pit Bull Terrier to match their new Escalade with spinners, and you have recipe for disaster -- made with the blood of innocent children who happen to be foolish enough to pet one of these transmogrified abominations.

I don't see why pit bulls aren't banned for the same reason that other large, potentially dangerous animals are. You should require a special license to own one, the same way you would need one to own a tiger or other exotic beast.

If a neighbor had a pit bull, I'd arrange for it to have an accident. To hell with animal cruelty laws.
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I fully agree Jedi. Dogs like those do NOT belong ANYWHERE near children. I tried expressing that in the other dog thread about rotties and nobody fucking listened to me. Treated me like I had a fucking tinfoil hat on.

PEOPLE:

THESE ARE DOGS DESIGNED FOR KILLING.

Why the hell would anyone think they are perfectly safe to have around kids or in a neighborhood populated by kids is beyond me. These dogs can snap at ANY moment! It can be a sore tooth, bad cramps, or a certain way the kid looked at him that triggered a uncontrollable urge to kill. I sure as hell hope that mother gets thrown in jail for endangering her chidlren like that. Fucking bitch. A poor child got mauled to death because some idiot thought that since a killer is tamed that it won't kill. Killers kill. It's their nature.

Mark my words..... ANY animal capable of killing my child that ever enters my property will be killed on site. I have a huge 12 foot pole saw that's razor sharp, a fuckpile of knives and a very dent resistant car bumper that I would gladly use to crush it's skull into the side of my house's foundation.... not to mention a very volatile temper when it comes to protecting my property and loved ones.

If I ever take my child to a park and any idiot brings his killer dog near that park I will make sure that dog is put down.

Killer animals do not belong amongst the general population.
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I sometimes wonder if violent pitbulls are the result of shitty owners, or if the breed just has an overly aggresive nature. It seems you only ever hear about pitbulls mauling people. I have a German Shepard who's never bit or attacked anyone in its entire life.
Pitbulls are just designed to kill. They are livestock and large game killers. They are designed to go for the neck. Their jaws lock once latched on. Only way off, bite through or get knocked out cold to let themuscles relax enough for the bone to pop and unhook. Their instincts are kill kill kill.

The ONLY Shepard that I have know to attack anyone was one who lived across the street form me. kids would tease it, it's owners kept it chained up outside in freezing cold and pouring rain and just "threw" food scraps at it.

So of course it attacked me when I walked by with a bowl of spaghetti (don't ask) and attacked it's owner once when he pulled his chain.

Every other shepard I have know was docile besides it's heavy bark. They're more scared of you than you are of them. I still wouldn't have one around my child tho, they are too big for a child to control.
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Pitbulls are just designed to kill. They are livestock and large game killers. They are designed to go for the neck. Their jaws lock once latched on. Only way off, bite through or get knocked out cold to let themuscles relax enough for the bone to pop and unhook. Their instincts are kill kill kill.

The ONLY Shepard that I have know to attack anyone was one who lived across the street form me. kids would tease it, it's owners kept it chained up outside in freezing cold and pouring rain and just "threw" food scraps at it.

So of course it attacked me when I walked by with a bowl of spaghetti (don't ask) and attacked it's owner once when he pulled his chain.

Every other shepard I have know was docile besides it's heavy bark. They're more scared of you than you are of them. I still wouldn't have one around my child tho, they are too big for a child to control.
Geman Shepards attack...and sometimes kill...and it is not uncommon.
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From 1965 - 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States.
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A pet isn't suposed to kill.

it's as rediculous as keeping a pet gun for kids to play with.
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Pitbulls are just designed to kill. They are livestock and large game killers. They are designed to go for the neck. Their jaws lock once latched on. Only way off, bite through or get knocked out cold to let themuscles relax enough for the bone to pop and unhook. Their instincts are kill kill kill.
I hate to burst your bubble but you're buying in to a myth.

FACT: Pittbulls have no "mechanism" in their jaw that allows them to lock. That's coming straight from a Veterinarian. Pittbulls have very strong jaws, and can bite down with quite some force, but there's no locking mechanism.

Pittbulls were meant to fight other dogs, in pitts. Not kill big game. They had to be handled by humans and man killers would not have been desirable.

Please, you really don't know what you're talking about.
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Geman Shepards attack...and sometimes kill...and it is not uncommon.
I'm sure it happens somewhere, I've just never heard of it.

hrm. I just recalled though. My foster brother years ago got attacked by a big Shepard just walking home one night. just walked by the dog's home... across the street.

That thing was neglected though. Just kept in the yard to protect the chicken coop from thieves.
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I hate to burst your bubble but you're buying in to a myth.

FACT: Pittbulls have no "mechanism" in their jaw that allows them to lock. That's coming straight from a Veterinarian. Pittbulls have very strong jaws, and can bite down with quite some force, but there's no locking mechanism.

Pittbulls were meant to fight other dogs, in pitts. Not kill big game. They had to be handled by humans and man killers would not have been desirable.

Please, you really don't know what you're talking about.
Listen, it's a killer dog. Who cares. Shound't be around children. Anyone who keeps them around children deserve to be shot in the forehead.

And yes, they do lock and were used for livestock and large game for many years. Maybe they were initially breeded for dog fighting but were sitll used for above mentioned purposes. The jaw socket is defective in them and it does lock on many many occasions. I've seen one's jaw lock onto a pillow. They had ot wait for him to fall asleep to get the pillow back after prying his jaws open.
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Listen, it's a killer dog. Who cares. Shound't be around children. Anyone who keeps them around children deserve to be shot in the forehead.

And yes, they do lock and were used for livestock and large game for many years. Maybe they were initially breeded for dog fighting but were sitll used for above mentioned purposes. The jaw socket is defective in them and it does lock on many many occasions. I've seen one's jaw lock onto a pillow. They had ot wait for him to fall asleep to get the pillow back after prying his jaws open.
And yet a Veterinarian tells me that it's a myth and there's no mechanism that allows a pittbulls jaw to lock.
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There is something like 4-5 million dog attacks in the US every year and approximately 1 million require medical treatment.

Over half of the attacks are against children under age 10. 10% of attacks are against sleeping infants.
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I've been around dogs my whole life and I agree Pit Bulls are the one breed that seem to always have a bit of a psycho look in their eyes.

I'm always careful when I see one.
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There is something like 4-5 million dog attacks in the US every year and approximately 1 million require medical treatment.

Over half of the attacks are against children under age 10. 10% of attacks are against sleeping infants.
There are something like 20 fatal dog attacks per year in all of the United States.
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There are something like 20 fatal dog attacks per year in all of the United States.
So maulings doesn't count in your eyes?
I hope your dogs chew off your nuts in your sleep.

Senseless dog loving cretin.
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I hate to burst your bubble but you're buying in to a myth.

FACT: Pittbulls have no "mechanism" in their jaw that allows them to lock. That's coming straight from a Veterinarian. Pittbulls have very strong jaws, and can bite down with quite some force, but there's no locking mechanism.

Pittbulls were meant to fight other dogs, in pitts. Not kill big game. They had to be handled by humans and man killers would not have been desirable.

Please, you really don't know what you're talking about.
Grizzlies and wolves don't have jaw locking mechanism either.
Why don't you get one as a pet ?
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Why cant people just get a normal dog anymore? what the fuck is wrong with a regular family dog? They just want attention....
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And yet a Veterinarian tells me that it's a myth and there's no mechanism that allows a pittbulls jaw to lock.
The locking jar mechanism is a myth.. i did some research about it years ago.

The only reason for them not letting go is pure agression and crazyniess..
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those are very nice pugs you got, i have alays wanted a pug my buddy has 2 of them
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those are very nice pugs you got, i have alays wanted a pug my buddy has 2 of them
Those aren't mine, just pics to show what pugs look like. They are great affectionate dogs and I don't have to worry about being shredded by one R.I.P. to the kid that got killed as mentioned in the post that started this thread.
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I don't see why pit bulls aren't banned for the same reason that other large, potentially dangerous animals are. You should require a special license to own one, the same way you would need one to own a tiger or other exotic beast.
I beleive they are banned in Toronto.
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Pit Bulls owners are like Trans Am owners...they are either drug dealers, rednecks or wiggers.

I love dogs, but I just don't get this concept of having to own a pit bull. They are not beautiful dogs, in fact most are quite ugly.

It's a small penis mindset that makes most of these guys go out and buy these dogs...there are the few exceptions who are true animal lovers, but for the most part those who buy these kinds of dogs are themselves a pit bull type...crazy, unpredictable and deserving to be put down.

A friend of mine introduced me to some guy he met and we were over at his house and he raised pits. This one was still fairly youg barely 2 years old and never have I felt so much strength in an animal. he would come up to me and want me to pet him. He would just force his body against my hand and I complied. I felt like most college coeds when dealing with date raping frat boys. And the guy kept saying over and over..."don't worry about him he's a sweet heart." Fact is I don't worry about poodles, I don't worry about Pomeranians. But I do worry about a 120 pound beast who's body strength is that of a 200+ pound beast with the monster jaws and claws to boot.
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I really love the Pit Bull but i wouldn't have one around my kids. when i was a single guy and i had the time to raise the dog right i would have one. but it seems when there not controlled they can be dangerous. A good Friend of mine had one for 5 years. then one day his son who was 3 was pulling on the dog ear while it was asleep and the dog turned around and bit the kids face .... he had to get 150 stitches from one quick bite. he's 9 now and still has a big scare over and under his eye .... they sent to dog to a place that takes dogs like that instead of putting them down. 3 weeks later the farm like place that the dog went to called and told them they put the dog down because he took down a horse in the Field ...

There very powerful dogs ..this one had a bowling ball for a toy ... he would throe it around like a beach ball ...
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thta's fucked up...my dog behaves well all the time...he just snarles at passers by and new visitors but he doesnt bite...
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Its a beautiful breed tho
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beautiful? are you fucking kidding me? that is one fucking ugly dog. its ears are all contorted and its face / mouth is ugly as hell.

this is a "beautiful dog"

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beautiful? are you fucking kidding me? that is one fucking ugly dog. its ears are all contorted and its face / mouth is ugly as hell.

this is a "beautiful dog"

Just a matter of taste i guess.
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then the owners.
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a dog can be beautiful without being attractive in a classic sense. those may not be the right terms but you know what i mean damn it!
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How about they shoot the owners and/or store or breeder that sold it to them without making sure they were responsible and knew what they were doing and how to handle the animal?

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i think there nice looking dogs

i think there nice looking dogs ... problem is you have a lot of guys that want the dog to be bad ass and raise it to kill anything that moves ...

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How about they shoot the owners and/or store or breeder that sold it to them without making sure they were responsible and knew what they were doing and how to handle the animal?

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no, I'd say just shoot the fucking dog in its ugly face.
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What a fucking retarted thread...

Humans are responsible for WAY more violent murders.assaults than pit bulls EVER have.. So why do you let humans in the same apartment as your kids ??

hmm makes you think doesn't it..

Infact ( as south park once did a great parody of this fact )

Children are 10 times more likely to be murdered or sexually assaulted by THEIR OWN PARENTS than they are getting bit from a pit-bull

Are you starting to see the point..

Black people are also 5 times more likely to commit murder than a white man so maybe we should ban black people .

Its easy to point to an ISOLATED case and make an argument for it , until you open your eyes and realise its just an isolated case..

Remember the texas mother who drowned her kids.. ?? Maybe we should BAN mothers... What were they thinking letting those kids be with their mother , when mother are KNOWN to murder their children ?? case after case of mothers murdering their own children. At least with pit bulls the cases appear to be accident , but the mothers are INTENTIONALLY murdering their children..
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What a fucking retarted thread...

Humans are responsible for WAY more violent murders.assaults than pit bulls EVER have.. So why do you let humans in the same apartment as your kids ??

hmm makes you think doesn't it..

Infact ( as south park once did a great parody of this fact )

Children are 10 times more likely to be murdered or sexually assaulted by THEIR OWN PARENTS than they are getting bit from a pit-bull

Are you starting to see the point..

Black people are also 5 times more likely to commit murder than a white man so maybe we should ban black people .

Its easy to point to an ISOLATED case and make an argument for it , until you open your eyes and realise its just an isolated case..

Remember the texas mother who drowned her kids.. ?? Maybe we should BAN mothers... What were they thinking letting those kids be with their mother , when mother are KNOWN to murder their children ?? case after case of mothers murdering their own children. At least with pit bulls the cases appear to be accident , but the mothers are INTENTIONALLY murdering their children..
LOL yeah way to rationalize owning a useless beast.

How about we make the numbers pretty much the same...since not everyone owns a pit...but just about every kid still has a mom.
So for every house that has a kid we put a pit bull in there and then let's see how those numbers play out.
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Forgt the hype for 5 seconds and ask yourself this question..

In your ACTUAL experiences , how many dog bites are you aware of and what type of dogs were involved.. ?

I have owned several dogs including pit bulls, and in my life , i have never seen a pit bull bite anyone i know. BUT i have been bitten by or witnessed bites by , ( terrier's dobermans, pomeranian's, great dane's and countless others )

If anyone else has experiences that differ from mine ( i.e. pit bulls biting more frequently than other dogs ) then i would be most interested to hear.. Everyone i have ever spoken to has had at least 1 dog problem , and pit bull is the LEAST likely of them to bite in my experience.. Terrier's and doberman's being at the top of the list of most frequent attacks..
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Okay I've decided I'm going to buy ashark and put it in a pool that will be designed to contain it.

We can safely swiim in it daily because as you all know the odds of being attacked by a shark are only 1 in 11.5 million
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Forgt the hype for 5 seconds and ask yourself this question..

In your ACTUAL experiences , how many dog bites are you aware of and what type of dogs were involved.. ?

I have owned several dogs including pit bulls, and in my life , i have never seen a pit bull bite anyone i know. BUT i have been bitten by or witnessed bites by , ( terrier's dobermans, pomeranian's, great dane's and countless others )

If anyone else has experiences that differ from mine ( i.e. pit bulls biting more frequently than other dogs ) then i would be most interested to hear.. Everyone i have ever spoken to has had at least 1 dog problem , and pit bull is the LEAST likely of them to bite in my experience.. Terrier's and doberman's being at the top of the list of most frequent attacks..
LOL the hype?

How many pomeranians do you ever hear of mauling people?

When I hear about dog maulings it's usually pits or rots.
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LOL yeah way to rationalize owning a useless beast.
Dont talk out your ass. If they are useless then every dog is useless. So we should ban anything useless and every dog ? I dont agree with that , but as long as you ban them all i guess ..
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How about we make the numbers pretty much the same...since not everyone owns a pit...but just about every kid still has a mom.
So for every house that has a kid we put a pit bull in there and then let's see how those numbers play out.
How bout we make a totally different scenario up than would never take place so we can make a statement based on something in reality ?? hmm because why would we ??
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I live in a predominantly black neighboad hood. Lots of Pits around here.

What's the deal with the black folk and the pit bull? Maybe I can make some money better here on the block.
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LOL the hype?

How many pomeranians do you ever hear of mauling people?

When I hear about dog maulings it's usually pits or rots.
When i hear about car chases its usually a black man , but that doesn't mean all black men run from the police.. It means the news likes reporting car chases with black people..

If you knew the statistics you would know pomeranians are also known as a "dangerous" breed, and have been involved in several deaths..

If you have ever worked in a news capacity , you would know they have a choice what to run and what not to run. They simply dont run stories when terriers kill children.. its not interesting.. pit bulls are interesting, black men in car chases is interesting... Terriers biting people is not interesting..
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Yes it's all "hype."
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From 1979 to 1996, dog attacks resulted in more than 300 human dog bite related deaths in the United States. Most of the victims were children
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The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.
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In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
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From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.
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In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.
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