Zango

What if I were to tell you that we have created an encrypted content tagging system (ECTS - patent pending) that will stop your videos from being copied, recorded or uploaded to any website, bit torrent, message board or news group?

Your members will still be able to download your videos, they will simply not be able to duplicate or upload them anywhere. Our incredible new ECTS system simply doesn't allow it.

What if we would guarantee our product or your money back?

What if we could give your industry back to you the way it used to be?

What this be of interest to you?

But whats the catch? Simple. We 100% protect your videos (or you don't pay us) and all we ask in return is 4.5% of your gross on every site we protect. Considering most of you are seeing drops in the 10% - 25% range, this is a small amount to regain your place online and get sales back to the way they used to be before piracy took over. And please keep in mind, if you find it does not work 100%, you simply do not pay us.

We have already inked deals in mainstream with the likes of Dreamworks, Sony and Warner Bros. Now it is your turn.

Serious inquiries only please.

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bo$$

That sounds decent, but to be honest, nobody in adult is going to pay yall 4.5 percent of their GROSS for that

you just need to have a different pricing model, that model is for the big shits like as you referenced, sony etc.

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Simon_Spicecash

does it protect a user from holding up a video camera to the screen, then duplicating that tape?

not to say this type of technology wouldn't be awesome - it surely would be, and I'm not entirely sure if this might be a joke or not, but if you are serious - I certainly think this would be a step in the right direction as long as it didn't effect the honest end user in any way (think DRM failure).

It would eliminate the house brand of pirate, and greatly reduce piracy, but the big boys would circumvent the technology as quickly as you could update it, and at the end of the day...as long as it requires eyeballs to see something on a screen, a camcorder can pirate it. Again though - it would GREATLY improve the situation (as long as it wasn't cracked) -

Windows Vista was apparently uncrackable back before it was released, because you'd have to connect to Microsoft's authentication server. So someone took the authentication server, put it on the hacked install disc. You set up a Virtual server, which is microsoft's authentication server and connect to yourself, and basically authenticate your copy of vista on your own. This is just one example of the ingenuity of pirates.

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Zango

Agreed, it's not cheap. But those who want to continue to stay in business understand the true value of protecting their content.

Considering you will gain 10 - 25%, paying us 4.5% still puts you in the green.

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what if i guaranteed you that someone will have cracked your shit and annihilated all your layers of protection within a 6 month period?

because that's exactly what some sneaky russian is going to do when this takes off...

st0ned

The technology sounds great. Sure not many companies are going to want to give a percentage of what the site takes in but the company you are protecting will probably increase their overall profits a great deal.

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bo$$

But there are no real stats on that.

How can you tell that I lose money to piracy?

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Zango

It can not be recorded via video camera. The tagging system displaces bursts of white lines on the video that can not be seen by the naked eye. Kind of like when you try to video tape your TV and you get the scan lines, but in a much more in depth and unseen level. While they could try to record it, the result would not be viewable for them.

We don't believe this to be hackable. We have offered 100k over the past year in the hacking world for anyone who could hack this and so far nobody has even come close. This project has been in the works for 2 and 1/2 years now and finally is ready for the market.

And the good news is, if someone hacks it, you don't pay us a dime until we can once again block that hack.

applebee

He's right. There is no way to protect content if the pirates are diligent enough.

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Socks

6 months? Try 6 hours.

I guess you're just smarter than every video expert that exists, who would have already made a company doing this if it was possible, oh, 5 years ago.

PXN

I doubt it works. If people can crack microsoft, they can crack anything. It may works for the a while, but then someone is going to crack it. Beside, you can make even more money if you do biz with the movie studio, they would be please if your product work, but I doubt it very much.

Zango

We have had a reward for the past year for anyone to do this. Your sneaky Russians lined up day after day and were defeated. It works on an random algorithm that is uncrackable. If you can crack it, we'll give you $100,000 USD.

It's already taken off. Mainstream is all over it and you should begin to see and hear about their results within the next few months.

applebee

Also what you forget to mention is that almost any DRM system like this requires a special playback device/software/codec. This means user installs and learning curve. This translates to probably 10-15% lost sales and users simply because it's harder to use than any other competitor's site. So what you may gain in revenue from protection you lose back in loyalty and attrition.

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Socks

So you'll give us $100,000 if we can break it, but you won't show us what it is, or tell us how it works?

Riiiiiight.

Zango

We understand that many of you in the porn industry are simply followers and are unable to comprehend true industry leaders and their ideas. That's OK. Someone had to be the first and we are it.

While you crack jokes and say it doesn't work, your competitors will laugh all the way to the bank not only their content is no longer copied, but as you fall to the way side with the rest of those who refuse to take action. If it is good enough for Sony, it is more than you could ever dream of.

And yes, we have hired some of the top video experts IN THE WORLD to come together in this project. Video Magazine has us on their cover and as their main story in the June issue. They also discuss how they have witnessed countless hackers trying to defeat this and could not.

Your replies make me laugh. Is it a wonder so many of you are currently failing? I think not.

We are not expecting mom and pop webmasters to come on board. 4.5% of your money honestly isn't much at all. We prefer larger accounts please. You know who you.

hdkiller

Does this means a surfer have to install a codec.exe to be able to watch the videos?
(Just like some sony/bmg stuff what actualy was a trojan, your version will provide free advertisements for the surfers also?)

What about linux, mac?

If it's playable, then it's stealable. Please give URL for the $100,000 challenge rules

Please link researches and evidence about piracy actualy makes less sales. (Not MPAA funded researches please).

Also please give us a link on USPTO.

Do you take the responsibility for losing sales because using a DRM like stuff and making videos not playable, and fearing away consumers because they have to download some software?

Can you give links to mainstream tech news sites what actualy tested your technology?

Oh and last for the god shake, link an actual video file using your technology

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Zango

Keep doubting and watching your profits slide. It is of no concern to us.

This is the answer you all have been looking for. Right here, right now, and true to the adult industry, you wouldn't know a good thing if it was sitting on your face.

applebee

I'm interested, but right now it's all just talk. Please post links to either whitepapers, or actual use-cases, and then we can decide. So far it's all just claims, but no proof or hard data. Please show us the data.

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Zango

Your customers will not have to install anything. It doesn't work like that. And no, you can not steal it because you can play it. That is the problem, nobody has been thinking outside of the box on this issue.

Each and every video gets a random encrypted content tag that is vastly different from the one before it that simply keeps it from being recorded, copied or uploaded. It's so simple once you break it down that we are surprised that nobody did this years ago. Snooze you lose I guess.

Our challenge has been going on for a year in real hacker circles. If someone here wants a try at it, I will gather the information for you and post it.

Regarding stats, we have conducted surveys for the past few years and watched sales decline in both mainstream and adult. This is where we got our data, from you. Then on the test sites we have opened, in every single site, we noticed as high as 25% increase in sales when we added the tag to the videos, in every single case. It is amazing.

Ozarkz

You don't give a link to a business site.

And you have no contacts in your sig or profile.

Zango

Sony is set to be the first to announce this later this month. The rest will follow shortly after. Video Magazine has us as their June feature.

Zango

I'm sorry, Digital Video Magazine. Sometimes my fingers work faster than my brain.

Please put your contact info here, we will contact you. The last time we posted our contact info here, we were FLOODED with porn spam (beast sex, trans and cp) and had to close the account.

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isn't stickyfingers working on this

Ozarkz

Are you associated with Zango.com? I'm guessing yes because they do DRM and your nick is Zango.. Zango has a horrible rep.

Zango

Please post your info here and one of our reps will contact you with all the information you request.

Zango

Why do you say that?

Ozarkz

Oh well if you have a product that works and isn't malware.. props to you.

hdkiller

This is going to be a fail

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Zango

I'm sorry to inform you that your entire industry is going to "fail" very soon unless action is taken right now, and it is mindsets like yours that will speed it along.

If you are unable or unwilling to adapt because your simple mind will not allow it, please get out of the way for those who want to succeed or you very well may get trampled.

garce

Oh fuck.

Adam X

big talk.. proof is coming I guess eh.. lets see it

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Zango

OK, since most of you are unable to grasp that this is going to save your industry, those of you who do "get it" please leave your contact info here and we will contact you and answer all of your questions and get the ball rolling so you can protect your content and make more money.

mynameisjim

I don't know who Zango is. But there have been rumors about this sort of thing from several companies who are working on it and are very close. At some point a working version will come out.

I'm not saying it will save the porn industry but people have seen it and have reported on it if you search around. I guess the key point is that there is really nothing to crack, that's why it's uncrackable. It's like saying you can crack a staticy TV image.

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lol @ everyone engaging this character. Even if he was real you would be buying into a company that has stolen from this industry for years and now wants to sell it back to us.

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hdkiller

I am sorry Sir Zango, but you are just going to scam producers, just like you scammed yahoo, now you going to scam sony. You have balls.

It have been proved many times these kind of protections not just not work, but actualy makes damage.

Also your solution will not stop anything, there is already plenty of content in the wild. And there is already plenty of tubes. But, these are just empty words. No demo video, no papers, no cross platform proofs, no valuable information at all just some corporate mambo jambo.

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Suppose I take a screen cap of one of these encrypted movies. Would it have white lines through it?

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bdld

you'd get more customers if you charged a flat fee per video or per site.

Ozarkz

"Something" is always better than nothing.

2012

maybe he could loan it back to us at interest like the banking industry

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Zango

And again, this is why you will fail. You are unable to see neither the now or the future.

Dreamworks, Sony, Warner Bros and several other of the TOP mainstream companies who could buy and sell you all day long, with legal teams and video experts that would make your head spin, all have it wrong. While you, the pornographer, the guy where nobody knows your name or your site, the guy who will be looking for a new line of work in about a year or less, has it all figured out. THAT is the mindset of the adult industry that I love. I believe the rest of the world calls it, delusions of grandeur. Classic stuff. Really.

tiger

4.5% of your gross, ok, lmao.

w/e your solution good luck but I bet it will be broken in less then a week tops, probably more like 24 hours.

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Zango

We are not looking for "more customers." We are looking for large clients.

It is not in our or our clients interest for us to help every mom and pop shop online. The more of you who do not protect your content and fail, the better off our clients will be.

Those of you who can afford this and value your place in the industry, will pay for the service. Those of you who can't or won't, will continue on the current path of decline.

Zango

Your post makes it clear this is something you can not afford and the sig link tells me you don't even own or produce content. You are not someone we are looking for but thanks for bumping this thread.

In regards to cracking... considering it's been a year now with no cracks (since there is nothing to crack), you are wrong and have shown that not only can you not afford us and own no content, but you also can not read nor do you take the time to skim a thread before posting in it or you would have seen the answer to your "broken in a week" comment.

hdkiller

Then you should check your join forms while Zango toolbar is installed. Maybe you have less joins because they pop up a competitor's site, when a surfer tries to join on yours.

Using Zango to steal Ccbill join form traffic.
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Hey ALL CCBILL SPONSORS - QUICKBUCK IS STEALING YOUR SIGNUPS
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hdkiller

ALL of the Dreamworks, Sony, Warner Bros videos are ripped from dvd in 12 hrs after it's appear in a retail store or not? So what we are talking about?

Oh just some for the records of the good ol' times:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...ftc_zango.html
Zango Will Pay $3 Million to Settle Fraud Charges

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Nickless

Wow... just wow people, I can't believe you're DOUBTING this guy's claims.

There is absolutely, positively no way this can be achieved, if you can see it, you can rip it, a digital/analog/digital conversion is all it takes.

The fact that you're being played by 'zango' (infamous for spyware/adware on both adult and mainsrtream) makes the whole thing a lot more funny.

Macrovision can't protect content, big ass movie studios neither, what makes you think a character on a porn board can achieve it? Is it the fantasy to see an underdog succeed where big conglomerates can't, a hero with a breaktrough invention? oh please...

It might just be a boneprone-style prank.

That being said, i'm wiling to crack your system, send the details to [email protected]

Zango

We are not a porn company. The porn industry chose to use us. We are mainstream, always have been.

Those "big ass movie studios" you speak of could not protect their own content and neither could you. What we were able to do was think outside the box and find something very, very simple that everyone, and I mean everyone, was overlooking, and turn it into something that you personally could have been responsible for had you opened your mind for a minute on this issue.

It can be done, it was done and it is being done right now.


I'll make sure someone from our team contacts you. Please post your results in this thread.

who

No chance this will work.