Where to get SERIOUS AND PRODUCTIVE affiliates for cash program?

[amateurczech]

We have had launched the first site two years ago. We thought maybe it was too general so not many serious webamseters were interested in promoting the site. Since then we have launched several sites including the latest medical niche gyno exam site exclusiveclub.com - it is selling well. But again, very few webmasters?

In fact we have over 400 webmasters signed up in our affiliate program. Why 99% of them is just crap? Absolutely useless, can not deliver any single sale. We make most sales ourselves and I would not say it is not converting, the niches sate gets conversion ratio around 1:200 from all raw hits to the website. Is thats bad?

Any advice where to get real webmasters willing to promote us who know what they are doing and how to do it? Is it because we do not offer crazy $50 payouts? But with niche site we have the members tend to stay long time so in fact revshare is even better..

Is there any webmaster out there who will show us that even eaffiliates can deliver pretty good amount of signups? We cna discuss individual terms etc, just show us you can do it. Someone please..?

[teenfeetcash]

To be honest we only see sales from 40% of affiliate signups thru our program but we will do anything for those webmasters ;)

[Horny Joe]

Let me give you a try .....

[amateurczech]

Originally Posted by Joe Doe

Let me give you a try .....

if you wanna try please contact me on the email in my sig..

[NaughtyRob]

We have about 1,400 affiliates and probably only a few hundred push us and send sales, its just the way it is.

[DWB]

That's pretty normal I think. Lots of guys sign up but only a few push it.

We probably make all of our affiliate money from 5% of our affiliates.

[Bravo]

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probably i doing something wrong, but.... i know atleast 100 affiliate programs where such hint working correct with st

[Bravo]

more than half of your hosteds are not compatible with most popular thumbs rotator...

[amateurczech]

hey so where are you? our new fetish site seems to be converting for various traffic, but still, is there anyone out there who will finaly show me that even affiliate can deliver at least 20+ SU per day, hmmm?

[SykkBoy]

You're lucky if 10% produce...but those 10% will send 90% of the traffic, so when you find them, take good care of them...

Also, you have to remember, that if you have a microniche like yours, most affiliates don't understand it and won't know how to promote it...maybe offer up some tutorials for affiliates on how to promote your niche?

[amateurczech]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

You're lucky if 10% produce...but those 10% will send 90% of the traffic, so when you find them, take good care of them...

Also, you have to remember, that if you have a microniche like yours, most affiliates don't understand it and won't know how to promote it...maybe offer up some tutorials for affiliates on how to promote your niche?

well, not even 10% are productive..I would say more up to 5%, maybe not even that. Of course we would take a good care about productive affiliates, we can offer fresh content for all of our sites and as we can see ourselves the sites are converting. The niche one is even very well converting.

So far everything related with affiliates seems to be like wasting of time. If there is even one good strong affiliate who knows what he is doing, we would do everything for him

But so far, it seems most of them are just guys who are not even sure what they are doing. I dont get, everywhere all over boards guys are crying not getting signups, making only little money per months, all of them promoting juggcash and similar program over and over again. Then we have good product that sells and only thing you hear is some stupid remarks about the content. Do they think only regular hardcore, with tons and tons of same content, sell? They are so wrong.

So come on, lets make some serious cash. Still waiting for someone who know what he is doing!

[seeric]

80/20 rule.

[amateurczech]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

80/20 rule.

who gives 80%? well, give me 500 signups per day and maybe I give you 80% (after I do some math, not sure if it would be possible even with several hundreds signups with processing fees, paying for shooting (and we shoot ourselves, server costs etc..)

[nekrom]

I was going to say the 80/20 rule as well but A1R3K beat me to it. Personally, I don't get out of bed for less then $50 pps.

-N

[peeperpimp]

80/20 does rule but the standard for most programs is 60/40 with a 70/30 to 75/25 increase if the aff. can bring in 2 to 3 sales per day...

Besides running my own shit I've also promted quite a few programs so speakikng as an aff. your sites / galleries would most definetly have to be compatible with the scripts being used today, since any webmaster would nmore than likely be promoting multiple programs via dif. free sites / tgp's or what have you...

It would be nearly impossible for any serious webmaster to manage all their sites if not for the convenience of the scripts that we use...

In short, manageing / promoting a program without the use of scripts now a days is suicide, unless your just running one simple site, (in which case your not al that serious to begin with)

That being said, I go back to diverting your attention to your FHG's, as alextm pointed out.. their not compatible with thumb scripts, if thats so then you may want to trouble shoot those galleries otherwise any webmaster who joins to promote you would nt be able to process yur galleries and most will simply move on to promote some other program.....

As far as getting more webmasters, well, advertising is the key, but where is the question, hit me up on icq I may have a solution for you... if your interested...

Oh shit let me stop. this is turning into a book... lol

Good luck w/ your program.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by amateurczech

who gives 80%? well, give me 500 signups per day and maybe I give you 80% (after I do some math, not sure if it would be possible even with several hundreds signups with processing fees, paying for shooting (and we shoot ourselves, server costs etc..)

you're mistaken on the 80/20 rule.

20% of your affiliate base will be responsible for 80% of the joins sent by affiliates. this is the third program i've built and run, and the numbers have been consistent with all three programs. what i said has nothing to do with any sort of payouts. sorry, i should have defined what i meant.

[FakeNick]

lolz at the newbz not knowing what the 80/20 rule is hahaha

if you dont know the basic concepts behind selling with affiliates you shouldnt have a program

the problem is the bar is set so low for people to run a program today any old fool can set one up

[d-null]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

you're mistaken on the 80/20 rule.

20% of your affiliate base will be responsible for 80% of the joins sent by affiliates. this is the third program i've built and run, and the numbers have been consistent with all three programs. what i said has nothing to do with any sort of payouts. sorry, i should have defined what i meant.

good you came in and re-explained what looked obvious to most of us, they were all getting confused and sidetracked like crazy, it was turning painful to read

[nekrom]

Originally Posted by d-null

good you came in and re-explained what looked obvious to most of us, they were all getting confused and sidetracked like crazy, it was turning painful to read

lolol dead set lotta muppets out there these days.

-N

[FakeNick]

anyone want to promote my new 80/20 rule affiliate program hahaha

im waiting for a newb to post that now hahaha

[abyss_al]

hit me up

[Iron Fist]

We doing $80 PPS for 20 days of the month now? What?

[- Jesus Christ -]

80 - 20 = 60
if you repeat 60 three times...
606060
and remove the zeros...

666

Think about it.

[Mike Dutch]

http://www.nastyczechcash.com/ is giving me an empty page (firefox)

[amateurczech]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

you're mistaken on the 80/20 rule.

20% of your affiliate base will be responsible for 80% of the joins sent by affiliates. this is the third program i've built and run, and the numbers have been consistent with all three programs. what i said has nothing to do with any sort of payouts. sorry, i should have defined what i meant.

i see. i know most of them are useless, but I am surprised that there is no real affiliate out of all of them. some of them are sending few signups, but nothing like some amount number of signups every day, consistently. still at the same time we are getting some average amount of own signups every day.

thats what I am confused about, that from several hundreds, maybe around 500 affiliates right now, there is no stronger one. so in my case I would say just few percent, far far below 20%, is making signups for the rest of them

[amateurczech]

Originally Posted by FakeNick

lolz at the newbz not knowing what the 80/20 rule is hahaha

if you dont know the basic concepts behind selling with affiliates you shouldnt have a program

the problem is the bar is set so low for people to run a program today any old fool can set one up

thanks, that was helpful. yes I do not probably know the concept if i have quite many affiliates and no productive ones, thats why I started this thread, to try to find out what I am doing wrong because I got site that is obviously selling but could be selling much much more is there were at last some affiliates sending good traffic. thats why i asked.

and sorry that I really did think he meant 80/20 payout, not everyone is as good as you are. with all the crazy payouts is it difficult to understand?

and for your information, of course I understand that only few affiliates is really productive, but I have in fact zero real productive ones. some are seidng something, which is fine, but I would think that really good affiliates will send much more.

[tommy72]

I find this old thread very interesting, cause i´m nearly in the same situation like amateurczech.
In my sig a giant medical site is linked which converts equal to amateurczech´s numbers and is surely good for the big bucks.
Affiliate through ccbill was not possible till switching to cms and sort all the watersports content out to make ccbill payment possible. Now there´s one version for european market with body to body watersports different billing partner and one version that fits ccbill´s requirements.
I hoped that under ccbill good affiliates will come fast, but it´s not that easy. The program is fresh, in the future I will add rss feed for blog webmasters and fhg stuff.

Last week something happened that showed me the power of affiliate. One single person advertised my mainstream program dirtycash ( single solo site ) and brought 2 to 3 signups a day with about 200 hits a day. After 3 days that link dropped deeper on his site and surely the signups through him dropped immidiately. So I guess his other programs might even have better conversions on his traffic or 50/50 is to low payout for him. But I learned how much power good affiliates have.

amateurczech, this thread is old, hope you read these lines. how is your situation now ? please drop me a mail if you like to, perhaps we can do something for each other since we share exactly the same niche.

[selena]

Originally Posted by tommy72

I find this old thread very interesting, cause i´m nearly in the same situation like amateurczech.
In my sig a giant medical site is linked which converts equal to amateurczech´s numbers and is surely good for the big bucks.
Affiliate through ccbill was not possible till switching to cms and sort all the watersports content out to make ccbill payment possible. Now there´s one version for european market with body to body watersports different billing partner and one version that fits ccbill´s requirements.
I hoped that under ccbill good affiliates will come fast, but it´s not that easy. The program is fresh, in the future I will add rss feed for blog webmasters and fhg stuff.

Last week something happened that showed me the power of affiliate. One single person advertised my mainstream program dirtycash ( single solo site ) and brought 2 to 3 signups a day with about 200 hits a day. After 3 days that link dropped deeper on his site and surely the signups through him dropped immidiately. So I guess his other programs might even have better conversions on his traffic or 50/50 is to low payout for him. But I learned how much power good affiliates have.

amateurczech, this thread is old, hope you read these lines. how is your situation now ? please drop me a mail if you like to, perhaps we can do something for each other since we share exactly the same niche.

Your post caught my eye, because it was ccbill and fetish, both of which I like to promote.

I clicked through, trying to take a look at what was what. http://www.spekula.com My first question is...

do you have a tour that affiliates send traffic to that is leak free?

second question...

what do you have available in terms of promo stuff? I am specifically looking for downloadable content, both in pic and video form.

[nation-x]

I think that the people that are bitching about "quality affiliates" are fucking retarded. That bullshit won't earn you better affiliates. Your problems are a mix of the following:

• noone has ever heard of your program
• your fhgs are fucked up and incompatible with alot of the scripts webmasters use
• your sites are in a saturated niche and you are competing with the big boys
• you don't even know how to generate traffic yourself... so you blame affiliates for not sending massive sales
• your members area or tour are shitty
• you are a fucking crybaby

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by amateurczech

i see. i know most of them are useless, but I am surprised that there is no real affiliate out of all of them. some of them are sending few signups, but nothing like some amount number of signups every day, consistently. still at the same time we are getting some average amount of own signups every day.

.....

I think in my mind this is part of your problem. I know this is a old thread and I hope things have picked up for you since this.. but in every post you've made you've done nothing but call you affiliates worthless and in this post even the ones sending you a few sales.. Why would I want to become your affiliate and be added into you group of "worthless affiliates"

I value every affiliate that tries to push my sites and be it one sale a month or a day I'm happy to have them.

and I agree about the 80/20 thing totally

just adding my

[peeperpimp]

Maybe your looking in the wrong places for them

[tommy72]

Originally Posted by selena

Your post caught my eye, because it was ccbill and fetish, both of which I like to promote.

I clicked through, trying to take a look at what was what. *****cant post urls*** My first question is...

do you have a tour that affiliates send traffic to that is leak free?

second question...

what do you have available in terms of promo stuff? I am specifically looking for downloadable content, both in pic and video form.

Hi Selena,

first of all I must excuse for my english. Then I must excuse me since I´m new to the affiliate stuff in general. So I don´t understand your first question fully. What do you mean "leak free" ? Do you have an example for me how such a tour should look like ? Better done via script or does simple html tourpages fit your needs ?
I will add what you need to have, but I need detailed rookie informations.

There´s a free trailers and photos for every given episode. Drawback is the trailers are all labeled with the domain name. I can also give you a package of pic and unlabeled video.
I think it´s best to drop me a mail to ina(at)spekula(dot)com and ask what you like me to offer for promo. I will do my best to fullfill your wish.
FHG and RSS feed with every single video will come the next weeks, need some time to get into FHG and have to ask my programmer for a RSS to mysql database bridge
Argh * sorry again my english must sound stupid and this simple post cost me 20 minutes :-(

Thanks for your interest !!

[tommy72]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

Maybe your looking in the wrong places for them

I guess so ! have to learn affiliate business step by step and I hope I get a hint in the right direction soon.

[Iron Fist]

When you let surfers sign up as an "affiliate", this creates the problem. It would be so much better if I had to go through some kind of approval before even being able to look at promo content for a program. Then of course on the other hand, I would expect promo passes and such without the hassle.

[tommy72]

Thanks sharphead,

will keep that in mind when i will put my hands on the promotion content issue.

One more question I have. I know for free hosted galleries i better use common scripts in future.
But do affiliate webmasters mostly grab the promo content ( pics/vids/trailer) by hand e.g. as a .zip download and put it on their pages or are there any general scripts used i better have to start working with ?
I know for free hosted galleries i better use common scripts in future.
My goal is to make it as simple as i can for coming affiliates.

[woj]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

80/20 rule.

[fetishwealth]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

80/20 does rule but the standard for most programs is 60/40 with a 70/30 to 75/25 increase if the aff. can bring in 2 to 3 sales per day...

Besides running my own shit I've also promted quite a few programs so speakikng as an aff. your sites / galleries would most definetly have to be compatible with the scripts being used today, since any webmaster would nmore than likely be promoting multiple programs via dif. free sites / tgp's or what have you...

It would be nearly impossible for any serious webmaster to manage all their sites if not for the convenience of the scripts that we use...

In short, manageing / promoting a program without the use of scripts now a days is suicide, unless your just running one simple site, (in which case your not al that serious to begin with)

That being said, I go back to diverting your attention to your FHG's, as alextm pointed out.. their not compatible with thumb scripts, if thats so then you may want to trouble shoot those galleries otherwise any webmaster who joins to promote you would nt be able to process yur galleries and most will simply move on to promote some other program.....

As far as getting more webmasters, well, advertising is the key, but where is the question, hit me up on icq I may have a solution for you... if your interested...

Oh shit let me stop. this is turning into a book... lol

Good luck w/ your program.

if anyone has a sec to elaborate on this it would be appreciated by myself and a few others im sure.

what exactly would make a FHG incompatible with the popular scripts?
we have had a small number complaints in the past so just want to make sure our are setup in the best way possible.

[Si]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I think that the people that are bitching about "quality affiliates" are fucking retarded. That bullshit won't earn you better affiliates. Your problems are a mix of the following:

• noone has ever heard of your program
• your fhgs are fucked up and incompatible with alot of the scripts webmasters use
• your sites are in a saturated niche and you are competing with the big boys
• you don't even know how to generate traffic yourself... so you blame affiliates for not sending massive sales
• your members area or tour are shitty
• you are a fucking crybaby

[tommy72]

@woj: your signature was very helpful to me.

sorry again to spam the thread with some newbie dumb questions.