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|  04-18-2009, 03:51 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  I'm board, ask me PHP related questions. I'm bored, it's Saturday night and I'm home trying to force myself to work, but I don't want too.. So help me get in the mood and ask me any PHP related question, and I'll answer as best as I can.   | 
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|  04-18-2009, 03:55 PM | #2 | 
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				 | Fuck, and I just noticed I spelled bored, board...   | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:03 PM | #4 | 
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				 | have you found a use for its new goto function?) 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:06 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Why is needle/haystack not consistent in logical order? 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:06 PM | #6 | 
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				 | When I display an echo only executed with an if statements on the same page, it seems like that echo is on the page BEFORE I execute the code (for example, age verification validation) Like this: PHP Code: 
			How the fuck do I do this? Im new to php.. | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:09 PM | #7 | 
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				 |  that always gets me | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:12 PM | #8 | |
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				 | Not really looking to take on anything as I got products of my own to put out, along with my own projects, but if you want hit me up depending on what you need done, we can work something out. Never really used the function to be honest. Good question, but I don't know that answer. Quote: 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:13 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Thanks for the proposed help. Hey, I got a CMS (updatem.com url defunct now) from 2005 running my member's area updates. It works great, I couldn't live without it. My questions are: is the script still secured to use, even though we are now at PHP5.something? Should it be reviewed/rewritten? Thanks in advance for your time MajorTom 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:15 PM | #10 | |
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|  04-18-2009, 04:19 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Hate that, I'm constantly loading up the php reference site to check... even worse, some functions will quietly fail without complaint if you supply a string then array when it should have been array then string. | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:38 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Your opinion on the difference in speed between switch and if when comparing a string against several regex's? | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:45 PM | #13 | 
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|  04-18-2009, 04:52 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Why does this work? Why does this show the email address? #1 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();but this doesn?t? #2 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();#3 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = ?foo?;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();    
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|  04-18-2009, 04:58 PM | #15 | |
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				 | Quote: 
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|  04-18-2009, 05:00 PM | #16 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 #1 works, because you're extending a class, but not overriding any functions - so the object $user has inherited all the properties and methods of person - basically, you've cloned it. #2 doesn't work, because you've declared $email in the parent class as private. If you wanted to access that, you'd have to use something like the third method, using an accessor - ie parent::getEmail() - or declare the variable as public (not so good) | |
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|  04-18-2009, 05:01 PM | #17 | 
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				 | Sure, but that's gone back to PHP4 style OOP... | 
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|  04-18-2009, 05:02 PM | #18 | 
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				 | What do you suggest, using public instead of var? I really don't see much difference with var or public. protected $email = 'foo'; works also | 
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|  04-18-2009, 05:09 PM | #19 | 
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|  04-18-2009, 07:50 PM | #20 | |
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|  04-19-2009, 01:12 AM | #21 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 For understanding private/public/protected visibility, take a look at this OOP tutorial http://www.brainbell.com/tutorials/php/TOC_oop.html 
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|  04-19-2009, 01:29 AM | #22 | 
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				 | What does PHP stand for? | 
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|  04-19-2009, 02:11 AM | #23 | 
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				 | used to mean personal home page until the release of php3  now it stands for Hypertext Preprocessor.  
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|  04-19-2009, 02:13 AM | #24 | 
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|  04-19-2009, 02:14 AM | #25 | |
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 He said he was bored so I thought I would give him a little something. It was not a question I had, or anything I was working on, but merely something to take away boredom.  
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|  04-19-2009, 05:52 AM | #26 | 
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				 | #1 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
class user extends person {}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();#2 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();#3 Code: <?php
class person {
    private $email = “foo”;
    function showEmail() {
        echo $this->email;
    }}
class user extends person {
    function showEmail() {
        parent::showEmail();
    }
}
$u = new user();
$u->showEmail();Also, you shouldn't be defining properties like that. That should be done in the constructor. The only time you'd do that are with class constants. http://www.php.net/construct 
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|  04-19-2009, 06:07 AM | #27 | 
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				 | What's the best PHP framework? 
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|  04-19-2009, 08:34 AM | #28 | 
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				 | It depends on what you are trying to accomplish... if you want fast code... NONE. 99% of frameworks are slower than shit and personally, I think they complicate the development process more than they benefit. Frameworks are the tools of lazy programmers.   To clarify, any developer worth more than a penny should already have developed his own toolset of objects. I have my own and can develop complex/scalable applications very quickly because of it. I could give a fuck less if another programmer thinks that developing apps in the latest OOP style using abstracted classes (like Zend Framework) is a good idea... I know from experience that apps built in that fashion run like shit. There is much more to consider, when building an app, than how fancy your code is. Here is a super simple example of a framework I wrote and use alot. The one I actually use is alot more robust and secure... but, if you consider what it does, you will get the idea behind how I code applications. http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/4963.html Using this simple framework, you can build apps with SE friendly URLs where each URL is a seperate module, class and views. It is a little different than the MVC type of framework because I don't really like the Model/Controller model like you find in Zend Framework, Cake or Symphony. I also don't like template classes like Smarty, so I just use php in my templates. The simple beauty of this method is that, if I want to add new functionality, I don't even have to mess with any of the existing code except the bootstrap (index.php), where I add the includes. All I need to do is create a module class (memberModule.php), a class to handle functionality and my view templates. Any classes that I define in the bootstrap (like a database object), are available to the module... So I have a very scalable solution right from jump. | 
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