NATS/Too Much Media LLC Sues Blogger Shellee Hale for Slander - GoFuckYourself.com

PornNewz · 04-22-2009, 03:26 PM

Rut Row!

She's a Cougar!!

A Washington State hockey mom who accused a N.J.-based web firm that serves the pornography industry of a security breach that may have exposed customers? private information to hackers faces a hearing Thursday alleging she slandered the company.

The case against Shellee Hale focuses on forum posts she made about Too Much Media LCC, of Freehold, in a message board frequented by those in the online adult entertainment business. Too Much Media has sued Hale for slander claiming that while there was a security breach, no customer information was leaked.

The case being heard in Superior Court in Monmouth County may help define free speech rights on the Internet, where experts say posters have long asserted First Amendment protections ? regardless of what they write.

In addition, Hale, who writes four blogs, is seeking protection as a journalist from disclosing her sources. She has been writing on internet safety for five years and contributing to such publications as the Wall Street Journal and Business Week. She also obtained her private investigator?s license in 2008, according to court papers.

Litigation like the lawsuit against Hale?s has so far been uncommon in New Jersey, but that may change as blogs, chat rooms and networking sites become ubiquitous.

?It?s rare, but I think it?s going to become more common as that becomes the primary way of people communicating,? said Tom Cafferty, counsel to the New Jersey Press Association.

Hale?s legal troubles started last year when she posted comments on an adult entertainment message board alleging the security breach of customer information gathered by Too Much Media, which the firm denies.

Company principles John Albright and Charles Berrebbi said the postings, which included allegations they had threatened Hale?s life, amount to slander against them and their firm. They want Hale to reveal her sources and pay punitive damages for harming the company?s reputation.

?The issue of libel and slander has been litigated heavily for TV and radio,? said Jeffrey Pollock, the Lawrenceville attorney representing Hale. ?But when it comes to websites, not so much.?

Courts have traditionally recognized slander as spoken defamation and libel as written defamation. Pollock said the standard used in considering the case against Hale should be libel ? which is much harder to prove in court than slander ? because her comments were written.

Pollock is trying to get the case dismissed by asking Superior Court Judge Louis Locasio to declare Hale to be protected by so-called shield laws. Built on court decisions and a variety of state laws, the shield generally protects working journalists from revealing their sources except in the case of a crime.

That?s when she started posting about a breach of security in the Freehold company?s software that potentially could have given hackers access to names and addresses of account holders.

Company officials contend the security breach was brief and did not compromise consumer information, including credit card numbers. Total Much Media gathers that information while helping web companies, including those who offer pornography, track sales on their websites and affiliates.

In his lawsuit filed last June in Superior Court, company attorney Joel Kreizman said Hale ?has embarked on a campaign to defame and otherwise malign the plaintiffs (TMM) in those chat rooms.?

?She has seized upon and utilized the security breach as the underlying theme of her attacks, but they are made without any basis in fact and without any concern for truth,? Kreizman wrote.

Cafferty said Hale?s claim to a reporter?s protections may be dubious. He said just because Hale contributed to publications in the past doesn?t mean she necessarily was shielded for this investigation.

He said a court will most likely look at whether she was disseminating the information through a publication or for her own purpose, because judges realize they have to be careful who gets the protection. If the newsperson?s shield is extended to everyone who posts items on the Internet, ?then everyone is a journalist and the privilege becomes meaningless,? he said.

Too Much Media contends Hale, as a blogger, isn?t entitled to the protection.

Hale gravitated toward internet security issues after hearing her other mom-friends complain about unsolicited pop-ups and spam ? the often-annoying advertisements plugging everything from credit card offers to skin care products, she said in court papers.

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GregE · 04-22-2009, 03:33 PM

Hmmm... this should prove interesting.

BobG · 04-22-2009, 03:35 PM

Interesting for sure.

JenniDahling · 04-22-2009, 03:35 PM

I haven't seen Shellee around for some time, is she still doing business in our industry?

BradM · 04-22-2009, 03:35 PM

Get her guys! I am fucking tired of internet slander.

HorseShit · 04-22-2009, 03:36 PM

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...nline_por.html

So you just steal news stories from other sites and give no credit back to the original source on your shitty site?

I knew it

XPays · 04-22-2009, 03:38 PM

copy and paste of news is copyright infringement 100%

PornNewz · 04-22-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...nline_por.html

So you just steal news stories from other sites and give no credit back to the original source on your shitty site?

I knew it

Hey my little love stalker, look at the bottom of the story page on the site.

Juicy D. Links · 04-22-2009, 03:45 PM

she looks familiar, what her nick ?

BobG · 04-22-2009, 03:46 PM

Is that the "Pornafia" lady?

troncarver · 04-22-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG

Is that the "Pornafia" lady?

yep we got really drunk in toronto once and started making out, ya know like french kissing....shes got a big mouth in more ways then one

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HorseShit · 04-22-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz

Hey my little love stalker, look at the bottom of the story page on the site.

You just added that fucking link you idiot, I KNOW YOU DID BECAUSE I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR SITE because I knew you would add the link.. what a fucking retard

Ozarkz · 04-22-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz

Hey my little love stalker, look at the bottom of the story page on the site.

All it says is "Article Here" that is not sufficient.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

You just added that fucking link you idiot, I KNOW YOU DID BECAUSE I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR SITE because I knew you would add the link.. what a fucking retard

LOL p0wned.

PornNewz · 04-22-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

You just added that fucking link you idiot, I KNOW YOU DID BECAUSE I TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR SITE because I knew you would add the link.. what a fucking retard

Awwww Sunshine! check any story on the site, we always have a link back. Just because I forgot it for 30 seconds in my rush to post, doesn't mean we don't do it. Love you long time love stalker!! I can always count on you to be right there gnawing at my heels.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 04-22-2009, 04:42 PM

cut/paste ftw.

PornNewz · 04-22-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

cut/paste ftw.

papill0n · 04-22-2009, 05:04 PM

minusonebit was her source

the.drunk · 04-22-2009, 05:52 PM

your stories suck

quantum-x · 04-22-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troncarver

yep we got really drunk in toronto once and started making out, ya know like french kissing....shes got a big mouth in more ways then one

roflcopter

hahaha.
comedy gold.

Sands · 04-22-2009, 06:10 PM

This should be interesting.

fris · 04-22-2009, 06:15 PM

what a shitty news site, wannabe ********

LeRoy · 04-22-2009, 06:20 PM

Very interesting indeed. Dont fuck with Nats

JFK · 04-22-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobG

Interesting for sure.

Yup, Totally

Tube Ace · 04-22-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

minusonebit was her source

that's what I was thinking.

Honez · 04-22-2009, 06:38 PM

Wow. Lots of lawsuits flying around these days

2MuchMark · 04-22-2009, 10:02 PM

/me does the happy dance.

Iron Fist · 04-22-2009, 10:07 PM

Already read the XBIZ version of this story...

RyuLion · 04-22-2009, 10:16 PM

Don't mess with my peeps..

KillerK · 04-22-2009, 10:19 PM

Wow this makes Nats look really bad.

2MuchMark · 04-22-2009, 10:28 PM

No, not at all. What happened to them was bad, and then what was said about them later was truly rotten.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-22-2009, 10:38 PM

I wonder if this lawsuit might backfire on tmm. Wasn't nats admin passwords used by hackers to steal info from nats programs ? Didnt several programs post logs of the nats admin/hacker logging in and retrieving data from nats clients. What did she lie about exactly ?

WarChild · 04-22-2009, 11:45 PM

Let's examine the cronology of an adult news artice.

1) Reputable companies like XBiz or AVN write a story
2) GFY poster posts story and usually link.
3) You steal the story and post it on your moronic site.
4) You post on GFY "reporting" the story.

You are a whole boat load of fail. Your stupid porn news site, which you come to GFY to post about, is actually slower to report news than GFY its self. Just think about that for a second.

04-22-2009, 03:26 PM	#1
PornNewz Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 851	NATS/Too Much Media LLC Sues Blogger Shellee Hale for Slander Rut Row! She's a Cougar!! A Washington State hockey mom who accused a N.J.-based web firm that serves the pornography industry of a security breach that may have exposed customers? private information to hackers faces a hearing Thursday alleging she slandered the company. The case against Shellee Hale focuses on forum posts she made about Too Much Media LCC, of Freehold, in a message board frequented by those in the online adult entertainment business. Too Much Media has sued Hale for slander claiming that while there was a security breach, no customer information was leaked. The case being heard in Superior Court in Monmouth County may help define free speech rights on the Internet, where experts say posters have long asserted First Amendment protections ? regardless of what they write. In addition, Hale, who writes four blogs, is seeking protection as a journalist from disclosing her sources. She has been writing on internet safety for five years and contributing to such publications as the Wall Street Journal and Business Week. She also obtained her private investigator?s license in 2008, according to court papers. Litigation like the lawsuit against Hale?s has so far been uncommon in New Jersey, but that may change as blogs, chat rooms and networking sites become ubiquitous. ?It?s rare, but I think it?s going to become more common as that becomes the primary way of people communicating,? said Tom Cafferty, counsel to the New Jersey Press Association. Hale?s legal troubles started last year when she posted comments on an adult entertainment message board alleging the security breach of customer information gathered by Too Much Media, which the firm denies. Company principles John Albright and Charles Berrebbi said the postings, which included allegations they had threatened Hale?s life, amount to slander against them and their firm. They want Hale to reveal her sources and pay punitive damages for harming the company?s reputation. ?The issue of libel and slander has been litigated heavily for TV and radio,? said Jeffrey Pollock, the Lawrenceville attorney representing Hale. ?But when it comes to websites, not so much.? Courts have traditionally recognized slander as spoken defamation and libel as written defamation. Pollock said the standard used in considering the case against Hale should be libel ? which is much harder to prove in court than slander ? because her comments were written. Pollock is trying to get the case dismissed by asking Superior Court Judge Louis Locasio to declare Hale to be protected by so-called shield laws. Built on court decisions and a variety of state laws, the shield generally protects working journalists from revealing their sources except in the case of a crime. That?s when she started posting about a breach of security in the Freehold company?s software that potentially could have given hackers access to names and addresses of account holders. Company officials contend the security breach was brief and did not compromise consumer information, including credit card numbers. Total Much Media gathers that information while helping web companies, including those who offer pornography, track sales on their websites and affiliates. In his lawsuit filed last June in Superior Court, company attorney Joel Kreizman said Hale ?has embarked on a campaign to defame and otherwise malign the plaintiffs (TMM) in those chat rooms.? ?She has seized upon and utilized the security breach as the underlying theme of her attacks, but they are made without any basis in fact and without any concern for truth,? Kreizman wrote. Cafferty said Hale?s claim to a reporter?s protections may be dubious. He said just because Hale contributed to publications in the past doesn?t mean she necessarily was shielded for this investigation. He said a court will most likely look at whether she was disseminating the information through a publication or for her own purpose, because judges realize they have to be careful who gets the protection. If the newsperson?s shield is extended to everyone who posts items on the Internet, ?then everyone is a journalist and the privilege becomes meaningless,? he said. Too Much Media contends Hale, as a blogger, isn?t entitled to the protection. Hale gravitated toward internet security issues after hearing her other mom-friends complain about unsolicited pop-ups and spam ? the often-annoying advertisements plugging everything from credit card offers to skin care products, she said in court papers. Article Here __________________ Pornnewz.com PR Round up, No one is safe!

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HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...nline_por.html So you just steal news stories from other sites and give no credit back to the original source on your shitty site? I knew it

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WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Let's examine the cronology of an adult news artice. 1) Reputable companies like XBiz or AVN write a story 2) GFY poster posts story and usually link. 3) You steal the story and post it on your moronic site. 4) You post on GFY "reporting" the story. You are a whole boat load of fail. Your stupid porn news site, which you come to GFY to post about, is actually slower to report news than GFY its self. Just think about that for a second. __________________ . Last edited by WarChild; 04-22-2009 at 11:48 PM..