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10-13-2010, 01:19 AM

Hi guys,

Anybody start to looking for lawyer there? We have a funny situation there right now.
We contact 4 lawyers and all of them refuse to take a case because of the conflict of interest. If you have somebody who is agreed, could you please send info to me to alexxe at alexxe.com

Thank you.

lucPL · 10-13-2010, 01:23 AM

we are done, even lawyers dont want to help us, all of them on Mallick's paycheck ? damn..

remon · 10-13-2010, 01:42 AM

Yep, appears Chris has bought all the lawyers on the island. Care to name and shame?

lagcam · 10-13-2010, 01:44 AM

Rather than waste your own and everybody else's time, please name the ones who say they cannot represent you

Davy · 10-13-2010, 01:49 AM

Yeah! Give us (or the Russians) some names!

DWB · 10-13-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by remon

Yep, appears Chris has bought all the lawyers on the island

Damn. Talk about planning shit out.

Some of you ass hats still want to give him the benefit of doubt?

Machete_ · 10-13-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by remon

Yep, appears Chris has bought all the lawyers on the island. Care to name and shame?

That's clever.

k0nr4d · 10-13-2010, 02:06 AM

that man is an evil genius. There can't be that many lawyers on a small island like that too

10-13-2010, 02:15 AM

I will check with my lawyer who is take carry of that, one which i know is www.ekvandoorne.com who is refuse.

Alex.

remon · 10-13-2010, 02:19 AM

spigthoffcuracao.com also refuse.

Quote:

Unfortunately, my firm is not able to render assistance in this matter.

ZL Attorneys (zlattorneys.com) claim they can recoup funds, but their fees are percentage based and a minimum of $5000 (per person).

I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Mallick is keeping an eye on this thread.

Konda · 10-13-2010, 03:32 AM

I think it's because of Gregory Elias, he is a very powerful man in Curaçao, and there won't be many (probably none at all) lawyers that would want to take any cases against a company that (was) owned by him.

JFK · 10-13-2010, 03:43 AM

Best of luck finding someone Alex

SallyRand · 10-13-2010, 03:44 AM

Curaçao has a population of only around 142,000 people and fewer than 300 law firms, so it is not entirely impossible for many of those law firms to have at least passing acquaintance with Mallick, et. al. or Elias and therefore quite legitimately claim conflict of interest.

Here is a list of some of the law firms there:

http://www.curacaolegalportal.com/CL...Law-Firms.html

x-rate · 10-13-2010, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Curaçao has a population of only around 142,000 people and fewer than 300 law firms, so it is not entirely impossible for many of those law firms to have at least passing acquaintance with Mallick, et. al. or Elias and therefore quite legitimately claim conflict of interest.

They are all cousins or brothers there...

I went to st-kitts 5 year ago and my taxi driver told me their were like 30-35k there so I told him: 'so you know everybody here?' and he replied me: 'I don't know everyone personnally but I know all their face at 95-99%'

Big Voo · 10-13-2010, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Hi guys,

Anybody start to looking for lawyer there? We have a funny situation there right now.
We contact 4 lawyers and all of them refuse to take a case because of the conflict of interest. If you have somebody who is agreed, could you please send info to me to alexxe at alexxe.com

Thank you.

may be directly to INTERPOL ?

J. Falcon · 10-13-2010, 04:44 AM

Good luck Alex.

ladida · 10-13-2010, 04:48 AM

Does not mean he actually bought them. Could be as easily as
a) They dont have the knowledge to pursue that case
b) They worked with elias at some point in time. This is often the case with big firms. You hire a lot of law firms so that later they can't sue you.

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 05:14 AM

In a small country like that, pissing off Mr. Elias could mean a very difficult time in the future.

But like I told you guys, you need to sue Visa. Sue them and let the shit roll downhill. Even if you have no chance of winning, the repercussions could very easily get things moving down in Curacao.

Large corporations do not take kindly to partners that bring them legal trouble. Their bean counters will weigh the legal expenses and damage to their image and branding against the benefits of working with Mr Elias and may decide he's not worth it. Or maybe they will increase his processing % in accordance with the increased risk factor.

Peacemaker · 10-13-2010, 05:24 AM

Why sue Visa? Signs are good that the SKNANB are going to wire the money to us users.

J. Falcon · 10-13-2010, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peacemaker

Why sue Visa? Signs are good that the SKNANB are going to wire the money to us users.

The issue in this thread is the wallet money.

DWB · 10-13-2010, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Peacemaker

Why sue Visa? Signs are good that the SKNANB are going to wire the money to us users.

Because sometimes when you sue, you need to toss a bunch of shit on the wall and see what sticks. The more shit you throw, the better chance of it sticking somewhere.

And you never know who is going to settle out of court just to avoid the hassle and expense of it all. If it will be cheaper and faster to settle, many will. I can't imagine the amounts of money porn guys will be suing for will be great.

Side note, MANY years ago when you could still sue a board order for what was said on their forum, I was caught up in a suit and the girl sued not only the people who were posting, but the board owner, the software maker, and AOL because they provided service to one of the guys. She got paid by EVERYONE out of court.

CaptainHowdy · 10-13-2010, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Because sometimes when you sue, you need to toss a bunch of shit on the wall and see what sticks. The more shit you throw, the better chance of it sticking somewhere.

Klen · 10-13-2010, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Peacemaker

Why sue Visa? Signs are good that the SKNANB are going to wire the money to us users.

Visa did absolutely nothing wrong here-it was a bank who shutdown access to visa cards.

J. Falcon · 10-13-2010, 06:16 AM

This is what suing VISA would be like:

You would be that guy...

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Visa did absolutely nothing wrong here-it was a bank who shutdown access to visa cards.

Are you paying attention? The point is not to try to figure out whose fault it is, since when does the legal system give a shit?

The point is to make things uncomfortable for the people who can provide a SOLUTION and hope they use their power to do so, and to make things uncomfortable in turn for those whose fault it actually is.

Phoenix66 · 10-13-2010, 06:21 AM

Nor visa nor bank has any guilt in this. This is epass and Chris Mallick fuck up. There are other money transferring services that use St.Kitts for prepaid cards and guess what - they are still issuing cards now.

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

This is what suing VISA would be like:

You would be that guy...

That guy would be the lawyer who took the case on.

And Visa is smart, they would calculate the cost of fuel for the tanks, the soldier's salaries, cleaning the treads, etc. and possibly the negative image created by running a guy over like that. If it works out cheaper than paying, the guy is toast. If not, payment is made and in EITHER case the cost is added to the risk factor Visa calculates when dealing with Mallick and Elias and has a long term effect on their business relationship.

RycEric · 10-13-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Hi guys,

Anybody start to looking for lawyer there? We have a funny situation there right now.
We contact 4 lawyers and all of them refuse to take a case because of the conflict of interest. If you have somebody who is agreed, could you please send info to me to alexxe at alexxe.com

Thank you.

Are you mentioning the word "adult" or "porn" to them? Lots of attorneys, at least in the US, will not retain simply due to the biz. It's their choice and they have reps as well.

DWB · 10-13-2010, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

This is what suing VISA would be like:

You would be that guy...

That guy ("Tank Man") turned out to be an international icon and a hero among the Chinese.

Besides, it's not about just suing Visa, it is about suing everyone and see who's going to settle with you.

Who ya gonna sue? EVERYONE!!!!!!!

timoxxl2 · 10-13-2010, 07:20 AM

In another thread could be read that Elias is the local representative of the FBI on Curacao ... so what do you expect? ;-)

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 07:23 AM

Great! Sue the FBI too then.

10-13-2010, 07:29 AM

Okey, we found a lawyer. We will fill a case before end of the week. Work to finish some paper work, also we will open a case in California.

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Okey, we found a lawyer. We will fill a case before end of the week. Work to finish some paper work, also we will open a case in California.

Please remember that in these laid back countries professional ethics are not what they are in other places. Just because you got someone to say they would take your case and accept a retainer from you does not necessarily mean they will actually ever lift a finger for you.

Just be careful is all I'm saying, you are at the point now where you could easily end up throwing good money after bad. Do some research on Curacao and its legal system if you haven't already and make sure you are dealing with the best lawyer possible.

Also remember if those thieves can hire lawyers to create a conflict of interest they could easily pay another off to drag his feet.

I am not sure what the corruption index is for Curacao, but it appears it was not listed in this study at least http://www.forensic-caribbean.com/03a.php?id=131 because there were not enough sources of data available.

J. Falcon · 10-13-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Okey, we found a lawyer. We will fill a case before end of the week. Work to finish some paper work, also we will open a case in California.

DWB · 10-13-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Great! Sue the FBI too then.

Smart ass.

Klen · 10-13-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Okey, we found a lawyer. We will fill a case before end of the week. Work to finish some paper work, also we will open a case in California.

Howmuch money you have there?I ask since it sounds like lawyer cost could cost much more then money which you have there.

10-13-2010, 09:43 AM

We have few account with total balance over 150.000 USD.

Yes. We check reputation of the lawyer, because i have some gambling freinds in Curacao.

SallyRand · 10-13-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Voo

may be directly to INTERPOL ?

You could send the info to INTERPOL but remember, INTERPOL has NO police powers of any kind. Although composed of representatives from law enforcement agencies world-wide, INTERPOL is ONLY an information sharing group and can't arrest or prosecute anyone!

INTERPOL:

http://www.interpol.int/

And contrary to what you see in the movies, real INTERPOL members tend to be like this guy:

iSpyCams · 10-13-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Smart ass.

Marshal · 10-13-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

We have few account with total balance over 150.000 USD.

Yes. We check reputation of the lawyer, because i have some gambling freinds in Curacao.

be careful not to mess it up. i'm sure no one wants to mess it up. once you freeze their funds a lot of frustrated webmasters all around the world is going to hate you, and i'm sure you don't want to be the target instead of epassporte crew...

i would better wait for their announcement till october 18th...

MaxxB · 10-13-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe

We have few account with total balance over 150.000 USD.

Yes. We check reputation of the lawyer, because i have some gambling freinds in Curacao.

Alex, contacted you via icq

let's speak about that

MaxxB · 10-13-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

be careful not to mess it up. i'm sure no one wants to mess it up. once you freeze their funds a lot of frustrated webmasters all around the world is going to hate you, and i'm sure you don't want to be the target instead of epassporte crew...

i would better wait for their announcement till october 18th...

I'm sure he won't. If by any chance ePassporte will start sending wires there always will be time to stop the process. But If they will not - we can loose time and money will be lost forever

Marshal · 10-13-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the AngEl

I'm sure he won't. If by any chance ePassporte will start sending wires there always will be time to stop the process. But If they will not - we can loose time and money will be lost forever

wrong! that is very incorrect! once a plaintiff files an action, the defendant need do nothing further in response to anything which has been requested prior to the filing of that action, which means that the moment epass or its lawyers are served notice, epass or its receivers can quite legally put ALL epass funds on hold until the case is dismissed, resolved or decided by a court. filing a lawsuit is a great way to take your funds OUT of motion!

or to simplify things:

the fact is, if a lawsuit is filed, epass or the receiver doesn't have to do a damn thing until the lawsuit is withdrawn or decided by a court, which could take months!

mineistaken · 10-13-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand

Curaçao has a population of only around 142,000 people and fewer than 300 law firms, so it is not entirely impossible for many of those law firms to have at least passing acquaintance with Mallick, et. al. or Elias and therefore quite legitimately claim conflict of interest.

Here is a list of some of the law firms there:

http://www.curacaolegalportal.com/CL...Law-Firms.html

300 firms for such a small population is alot, I am surprised.

By the way I did not follow all the drama, so what Curacao has to do with St Kitts?

Barry-xlovecam · 10-13-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

[i would] better wait for their announcement till october 18th...

Unlikely to get actual legal service upon the Defendant that fast. Also here (at least,) there is an allowed time to answer (Defendants Response (21 days state law or 30 days I believe Federal)). Generally, this is done in writing in civil suits with a court date for motion calls set perhaps, weeks or longer after written response by the defendant.

Not legal advice for informational and discussion purposes only.

Marshal · 10-13-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Unlikely to get actual legal service upon the Defendant that fast. Also here (at least,) there is an allowed time to answer (Defendants Response (21 days state law or 30 days I believe Federal)). Generally, this is done in writing in civil suits with a court date for motion calls set perhaps, weeks or longer after written response by the defendant.

Not legal advice for informational and discussion purposes only.

I take it you have never heard of Overnight FedEx, Overnight UPS or courier services? Notice would be accomplished in a matter of a few days and then during the 30 day response time, ePass or its receivers need do NOTHING with the funds except sit on them!

Filing a lawsuit prior to Oct 18 or even for sometime thereafter if ePass is actually sending out wires, would bring the whole thing to a grinding, crashing halt and tie up everyone's money for who knows how long!

Phoenix66 · 10-13-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

Filing a lawsuit prior to Oct 18 or even for sometime thereafter if ePass is actually sending out wires, would bring the whole thing to a grinding, crashing halt and tie up everyone's money for who knows how long!

But Epass is not sending any wires. That's what the problem is in the first place.

Davy · 10-13-2010, 01:22 PM

Suing VISA? That's a thing that the lazy fat fuck called Mallick could should do.
Why should we fight his fight?

MaxxB · 10-14-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

wrong! that is very incorrect! once a plaintiff files an action, the defendant need do nothing further in response to anything which has been requested prior to the filing of that action, which means that the moment epass or its lawyers are served notice, epass or its receivers can quite legally put ALL epass funds on hold until the case is dismissed, resolved or decided by a court. filing a lawsuit is a great way to take your funds OUT of motion!

or to simplify things:

the fact is, if a lawsuit is filed, epass or the receiver doesn't have to do a damn thing until the lawsuit is withdrawn or decided by a court, which could take months!

I'm waiting for your contact
Maybe you have a way how to receive my wire quciker then doing a lawsuit

but for now epass is not replying and I don't want them to disappear with our money

I'm flying back to EU today and I will wait only till next Monday, no more

epitome · 10-14-2010, 09:39 AM

I love GFY.

Peanut gallery: "Sue Mallick and Epassporte"

Someone with real skin in the game: "We are!"

Peanut gallery: "No, don't sue Mallick and Epassporte!"

10-13-2010, 01:19 AM	#1
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10-13-2010, 02:15 AM	#9
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	I will check with my lawyer who is take carry of that, one which i know is www.ekvandoorne.com who is refuse. Alex.

10-13-2010, 03:32 AM	#11
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	I think it's because of Gregory Elias, he is a very powerful man in Curaçao, and there won't be many (probably none at all) lawyers that would want to take any cases against a company that (was) owned by him.

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10-13-2010, 09:43 AM	#37
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	We have few account with total balance over 150.000 USD. Yes. We check reputation of the lawyer, because i have some gambling freinds in Curacao.

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