Bangbros account closing...

[Kefir]

My account got closed and I mailed Steve who was mentioned on 'login denied' page.

The answer:

"Steve wrote:
> you have a negative amount associated with your account "

Ok, so we go further, I have been on REVSHARE:

Kefir ‎(23:26):
hello, Kefir here re closed account
Kefir ‎(23:27):
you just got mail from me
Steve ‎(23:27):
yeah
Kefir ‎(23:27):
so
regarding your answer
if you prefer to close accounts of affiliates, fine
Kefir ‎(23:28):
I do not think it was the reason, but it is your will
Kefir ‎(23:29):
the stats I sent you are my stats remote 'all time' stats
Steve ‎(23:29):
i have no reason or want to close accounts
i don't sit here, pick out people, and close accounts
Steve ‎(23:30):
i go by information provided by our processors
a negative amount menas
that there were chargebacks or credits
that totaled more than what we paid you
creating an off balance
from a business sense
ti doesn't make senese
Kefir ‎(23:30):
are these stats in any way different in terms of average affiliate stats?
Steve ‎(23:31):
the ones you gave about yourself?
Kefir ‎(23:31):
yes
these are my stats TILL YOU CLOSED MY ACCNT
and since they are not counted
Steve ‎(23:32):
your all time stats, i dont look at those. i look at the pay period
Kefir ‎(23:32):
ok... again...
is my account closed now?
so I cannot login to it
Kefir ‎(23:33):
I have made YOU over $3k, in whole my hostory there happened 3 credits (no chargebacks) according to my stats
Steve ‎(23:33):
your stats could also not be using the same data we use
i don't go by statsremote
Kefir ‎(23:34):
I do go
again
IS MY ACCOUNT CLOSED?
Steve ‎(23:34):
yes
Kefir ‎(23:35):
and thats fine
Kefir ‎(23:36):
if you feel like closing an account for 3 credits (not chargebacks even) in comparison to overall stats is fine, then I am fine... just removed all your remaining links and galleries
Steve ‎(23:36):
i told you we don't go by stats remote for this
we hvae data that isn't available to you
Kefir ‎(23:36):
stats remote were 100% accurate for me 100% of the time
Kefir ‎(23:37):
if you have different stats = your stats DIFFER FROM THE SHOWN TO AFFILIATES, then even more fine
Steve ‎(23:37):
stats
like chargebacks
Kefir ‎(23:38):
stats remote shows YOUR stats I see in my affiliate panel
Steve ‎(23:38):
are done by the processors
stats remote doesn't interface with them 100%
Kefir ‎(23:38):
so what are my stats?
yes, stats remote only shows what YOU show...
Steve ‎(23:39):
stats remote
shows
your hits
your joins
we go by data given by our processors
Kefir ‎(23:39):
am I / was I on recurring or per signup?
Kefir ‎(23:40):
looking on rebills means REVSHARE
so if you have other stats than me, what does it mean?
Steve ‎(23:41):
they are stats used by our credit card and ach processors
Kefir ‎(23:42):
and they are different from stats I see/saw in affiliate panel?
Steve ‎(23:44):
our internal stats that deal with credit card processing are used for internal matters
Kefir ‎(23:45):
do you understand me? do you know what revshare means????????
Steve ‎(23:46):
yes i do
do you understand me?
Kefir ‎(23:46):
I sell = I get x%... My rebill gets billed = I get x% of that... My surfers credits = I get -x%
Steve ‎(23:46):
your rebill stats have nothing to do with our chargeback/credit stas
Kefir ‎(23:47):
so, if I am on REVSHARE
what does it mean? that you have DIFFERENT stats than affiliate?
Steve ‎(23:47):
we use stats that you don't have access to
its really that simple
Kefir ‎(23:47):
ok, as I said fine
Kefir ‎(23:48):
so
you can keep my account closed
Kefir ‎(23:49):
and enjoy the rest of discussion about that on boards... I do really appreciate you tried to help me but, to be honest, something went wrong
Steve ‎(23:50):
i'm sorry?
we have to continue this on boards now?
Kefir ‎(23:50):
yes, I will post you a link in seconds
Steve ‎(23:50):
k

The stats I have in SR are:
86 sales, 126 rebills, 3 credits

Sorry it's from SR but as my account is closed I cannot make it from the program stats. What I keep reading on ICQ is, that I make more loss to bangbross than profit. Just in case you do not see it, I am on REVSHARE not per signup.

Any comments?

[st0ned]

Sounds pretty shitty, sorry to hear that. I have heard a number of people complain about having their accounts closed with BB but I have never had any issues with them. SR does in fact reflect chargebacks and credits as well, so you were correct in saying SR displays the exact stats that show to use within their affiliate admin. I have a hard time believing they just shut down random accounts so they must have had a pretty good reason for doing so.

[Kefir]

Sorry wrong stats posted... I was on Per Signup it seems... Could not check that as... my accnt is closed.

84 Sales, no chargebacks, no credits... at least according to SR till my accnt got closed.

[Sausage]

Bangbros have been closing a lot of non us accounts. Got mine canned, many other very good wm's who have been in the biz for a long time have had theirs canned too.

In 9 years its the 2nd program to have ever closed an account of mine out of probably 300 wm programs. Do a search many many other affiliates have had the same problem. I suggest you stay as far away as possible from BB regardless of their vocal 'bro club' following.

[georgeyw]

Interesting that you can get your account closed when being a revshare affiliate. I could understand if you had alot of chargebacks (which you said you didn't) but I think it is more likely they don't want smaller affiliates.....

[Kefir]

I have just posted above, I was on PPS finally, I made a mistake in checking stats. Whatever, I was affililiated with Bangbros for years and the correct stats above are from couple of years cumulated, it is not like sending tens of per su signups in one period.

Originally Posted by georgeyw

Interesting that you can get your account closed when being a revshare affiliate. I could understand if you had alot of chargebacks (which you said you didn't) but I think it is more likely they don't want smaller affiliates.....

[sexdatesj]

Send your traffic to us, we pay $50 per signup and we don't close accounts unless you commit fraud and *excessive* chargebacks.

either way, I know that shit sucks!

[Pipecrew]

Originally Posted by Kefir

‎(23:49):and enjoy the rest of discussion about that on boards... I do really appreciate you tried to help me but, to be honest, something went wrong
Steve ‎(23:50):
i'm sorry?
we have to continue this on boards now?
Kefir ‎(23:50):
yes, I will post you a link in seconds
Steve ‎(23:50):

ahh pure professionalism at it's finest. Affiliates that think we really just shut down affiliate accounts for 0 reason are marginal thinkers at best. Affiliates make us money, they make everyone money.

Kefir, your account was terminated on Oct 22nd 2007. That was 1.5 years ago. According to our stats you have not sent a single sale since then and have been paid for everything before that. I fail to see the issue at hand but feel free to email me directly at jordanbangbros @ gmail

[HomerSimpson]

this really sucks! I've read similar things with different sponsors...

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by Kefir

My account got closed and I mailed Steve who was mentioned on 'login denied' page.

The answer:

"Steve wrote:
> you have a negative amount associated with your account "

Ok, so we go further, I have been on REVSHARE:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

ahh pure professionalism at it's finest. Affiliates that think we really just shut down affiliate accounts for 0 reason are marginal thinkers at best. Affiliates make us money, they make everyone money.

Kefir, your account was terminated on Oct 22nd 2007. That was 1.5 years ago. According to our stats you have not sent a single sale since then and have been paid for everything before that. I fail to see the issue at hand but feel free to email me directly at jordanbangbros @ gmail

1.5 years ago and your bringing it up now? I can see if they are doing some house cleaning and removing old accounts to prevent against fraud or password guessing, but know hows

just open a new account

[Snake Doctor]

Sometimes, it's easy to tell when someone doesn't "get it"

Steve ‎(23:36):
i told you we don't go by stats remote for this
we hvae data that isn't available to you
Kefir ‎(23:36):
stats remote were 100% accurate for me 100% of the time
Kefir ‎(23:37):
if you have different stats = your stats DIFFER FROM THE SHOWN TO AFFILIATES, then even more fine

Originally Posted by Kefir

Any comments?

Yes, you're a tool.

[thekingz]

fuckeddddddddddddddddd

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by Kefir

Sorry wrong stats posted... I was on Per Signup it seems... Could not check that as... my accnt is closed.

84 Sales, no chargebacks, no credits... at least according to SR till my accnt got closed.

PPS doesn't show CB or credits because they absorb it. The stats that steve is referring to include those credits and CB's, its not shown to affiliates. End of the day it seems they paid out $35-40/join * whatever joins you had and they didn't make that money back so it didn't make sense to keep you active. Based on jordan's reply, you were paid in full though. Consider yourself lucky.
WG

[harvey]

sorry, I might be slow, but are you talking about something that happened 1.5 years ago or am I missing something?