Solo/Single girl models and companies BEWARE ABOUT DOING BUSINESS WITH FLESHLIGHT - GoFuckYourself.com

3xTom · 06-24-2009, 07:56 PM

Attention ANYONE with solo models or if you are a solo model yourself..

As anyone here knows I simply don't do drama even when pushed into a corner,

I'm not going to get into some big drama filled he said she said battle with anyone at all.
I'm not one to come to boards to out anyone that doesn't deserve it.
If you know me at all you know my warnings are not blow off the handle bullshit...
So

All I'm going to do is make a statement,

If Fleshlight approaches you to do business with them....

RUN..... RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN THE OTHER WAY....

That's all I'm going to say for now...

Take my warning with heed or ignore it all together...

Tom

JD · 06-24-2009, 07:57 PM

oh shizzy...

qxm · 06-24-2009, 07:58 PM

crazy how many proggies are going rogue on affiliates/biz partners lately.......

3xTom · 06-24-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm

crazy how many proggies are going rogue on affiliates/biz partners lately.......

Damn straight... I thought we were all here to do the same thing make some cash...

Seems some people are only out to make cash on YOUR brand...

Spike D · 06-24-2009, 08:00 PM

Thanks for the heads up Tom..

Thomas1007 · 06-24-2009, 08:00 PM

interesting, going to have to keep an eye out on this thread to see if there is a response.

beemk · 06-24-2009, 08:05 PM

fleshlight has been shady from the beginning, this is no shocker.

WiredGuy · 06-24-2009, 08:08 PM

Yikes, i can imagine what happened but of course I won't post it for obvious reasons. Good luck resolving this Tom.
WG

miss_bellabellini · 06-24-2009, 08:10 PM

Sorry to hear this

3xTom · 06-24-2009, 08:15 PM

Any girls or programs thinking of doing business with these , guys , should talk to me before signing or doing anything at all...

And I will be HAPPY to discuss it with you...

I wont discuss it just to be some ass and talk about someone else...
But i really would like to at least make sure the model / program knows what they are getting into... or should i say NOT going to get out of it..

tom

3xTom · 06-24-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas1007

interesting, going to have to keep an eye out on this thread to see if there is a response.

They can respond all they want...
Don't really care what they have to say now..

what they are doing is WRONG with a capital W R O N G

and they KNOW it...

NaughtyRob · 06-24-2009, 09:49 PM

Thanks for the warning dude.

MetrixApps - Sean · 06-24-2009, 10:03 PM

thanx for the 411 tom
sucks to have to deal with this kinda crap

mikeyddddd · 06-24-2009, 10:17 PM

Trend · 06-24-2009, 10:46 PM

Do you foresee resolution to the issue?

Pornopat · 06-25-2009, 12:12 AM

Short term thinkers...

JamesK · 06-25-2009, 12:15 AM

Oh snap.

crockett · 06-25-2009, 12:20 AM

Oddly enough, FL was the top banner for this thread when I just read it. It seems like they have had a shady past with a few dealings now.

»Rob Content« · 06-25-2009, 12:22 AM

I don't mean to be a dick or anything Tom, but it appears your girls say not to cry when you get scammed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai West

Just curious...but have any of the other scheming, back-stabbing, money-hungry, under-educated, thieving SCAMMERS on this board bought a 28 million dollar ANYTHING lately?

Yup, didn't think so. So he made his money being a crook. Big fucking deal. So have most of the people on this board, which is why there is always so much hostility here. Don't hate this guy because he's a scam artist...hate him because he's BETTER AT IT THAN YOU.

Ava Knight · 06-25-2009, 12:33 AM

Let's not pluralize "girls" there, Rob Content

»Rob Content« · 06-25-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ava Knight

Let's not pluralize "girls" there, Rob Content

Fair enough, I can admit the mistake there

It should have said

one of your girls

V_RocKs · 06-25-2009, 12:40 AM

Fleshlight has always been shady..

sicone · 06-25-2009, 12:48 AM

very interesting... wonder where this thread will go

XPays · 06-25-2009, 01:27 AM

strong words

BigRod · 06-25-2009, 02:19 AM

Well I don't know about any of you but I never had much luck pushing their product. I pulled their ads from all of my sites but one and have a 1/5688 to show for it.

NinjaSteve · 06-25-2009, 04:06 AM

I heard it's either hit or miss when promoting them so I passed. It's a physical product, so I figured there wouldn't be too many issues with payment etc. Sorry to hear some shit went down.

mOrrI · 06-25-2009, 04:12 AM

Damn... that's sad to hear...

I still want to believe that there are some good sponcers out there...

seeandsee · 06-25-2009, 04:33 AM

interesting

selena · 06-25-2009, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by »Rob Content«

I don't mean to be a dick or anything Tom, but it appears your girls say not to cry when you get scammed.

As noted by the ever-lovely, and one-smart-cookie Miss Ava, that quote was made by a singular girl, not girls.

And while I have no idea the context in which the quote was made, I'm relatively sure that it falls under the "the views of the model do not necessarily reflect that of the program" category.

Right or wrong, we don't muzzle the girls. Though being a BDSM enthusiast, I would like to ball gag them.

Now, back to the matter at hand and Fleshlight Cash...

DrPickle · 06-25-2009, 06:36 AM

I heard that using a fleshlight more than once a day will make you go cross-eyed.

bbobby86 · 06-25-2009, 07:52 AM

oh yea... nice looking...

Paul Markham · 06-25-2009, 08:04 AM

Affiliates need to do a lot of homework today before promoting a company.

trishauptown · 06-25-2009, 09:32 AM

Everyone has their opinions and views......there is a difference between being scammed and getting the shit end of a bad deal. I have been through both. I have never felt more secure with my business now that Tom handles it. He has always pointed me in the right direction or steered me clear of the wrong ones. There are good people and bad people in any business.

As far as the "girls" comment.....that was Shai's comment!!! And maybe you should quote a girl that is more of an entity in this business.

trishauptown · 06-25-2009, 09:33 AM

And I have my own reasons for not working with Flesh Light......loooong before I was with Tom

Oracle Porn · 06-25-2009, 09:42 AM

you can tell us that you've made delicious cookies and not offer us a taste...

c'mon spill the beans

burntfilm · 06-25-2009, 09:49 AM

thanks for the heads up Tom.

ExLust · 06-25-2009, 09:51 AM

Thanks for the warning.

Zuzana Designs · 06-25-2009, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the heads up Tom. Looking for another sponsor now to replace them.

ineedafix · 06-25-2009, 10:34 AM

Crooked fuzz....big big time

AaliyahLove · 06-25-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishauptown

as far as the "girls" comment.....that was shai's comment!!! And maybe you should quote a girl that is more of an entity in this business.

oooh snap!

Tjeezers · 06-25-2009, 11:42 AM

fleshlight fucked me 3 years ago
they always think they are making revolution
good thing this post is going to be one of them

Deej · 06-25-2009, 12:53 PM

So they arent paying up on the raven riley pussy molded fleshlights?

DWB · 06-25-2009, 01:04 PM

Hmmmm. They modeled their limpy dick model after me.

trishauptown · 06-25-2009, 01:11 PM

Tempting.....lol!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Hmmmm. They modeled their limpy dick model after me.

Fleshlight Team · 06-25-2009, 03:20 PM

We have gone to great lengths to maintain positive relationships with all of our Fleshlight Girls?, our affiliates, and our vendors. Our business continues to grow, and for over two years we have been paying out some of the most generous royalties in the industry, and will continue to do so. However, on May 23rd 2008, when Raven Riley publicly announced her retirement on XBIZ, she abandoned her contractual responsibilities to ILF. As Tom Leach himself stated, ?Raven has communicated that the adult industry is no longer in her future."

In addition to her retirement, Raven proved unreachable for both ourselves, and apparently even for Tom Leach, according to his own published statements in a subsequent XBIZ article on June 27th,
?We then asked her several times between [late March] and May 21 to come into work and learn a new part of the business since she would no longer be taking care of her site,? Leach said. ?To which she would never come in [and] quit talking with us, quit texting us [all while] ordering us to keep sending her money anyways.? See: http://www.xbiz.com/news/95858.

Her refusal to communicate or to work led to further breaches of contract, as she was unavailable for promotion, communication, and appearances.

Mr. Leach?s claims are both desperate and unfounded. We will continue to maintain good business relations with our current Fleshlight Girls?, and are excited to launch several new girls of the highest caliber in late 2009.

Furthermore, in response to any associated threads regarding our affiliate program, our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent, and provides real time and accurate data for all of our affiliates. It is tailored to make promotion of Fleshlight as simple and lucrative as possible, and our millions of dollars in commissions paid each year are a testament to that fact. We encourage anyone with any questions to investigate for themselves at www.FNCash.com, and we thank those affiliates who have supported us and will continue to support us in the future.

peedy · 06-25-2009, 08:15 PM

Well the only claim I see made is that Fleshlight is doing something "wrong". If this is about Raven Riley, I would venture to say its a fucked up situation.

3xTom · 06-25-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleshlight Team

We have gone to great lengths to maintain positive relationships with all of our Fleshlight Girls™, our affiliates, and our vendors. Our business continues to grow, and for over two years we have been paying out some of the most generous royalties in the industry, and will continue to do so. However, on May 23rd 2008, when Raven Riley publicly announced her retirement on XBIZ, she abandoned her contractual responsibilities to ILF. As Tom Leach himself stated, “Raven has communicated that the adult industry is no longer in her future."

In addition to her retirement, Raven proved unreachable for both ourselves, and apparently even for Tom Leach, according to his own published statements in a subsequent XBIZ article on June 27th,
“We then asked her several times between [late March] and May 21 to come into work and learn a new part of the business since she would no longer be taking care of her site,” Leach said. “To which she would never come in [and] quit talking with us, quit texting us [all while] ordering us to keep sending her money anyways.” See: http://www.xbiz.com/news/95858.

Her refusal to communicate or to work led to further breaches of contract, as she was unavailable for promotion, communication, and appearances.

Mr. Leach’s claims are both desperate and unfounded. We will continue to maintain good business relations with our current Fleshlight Girls™, and are excited to launch several new girls of the highest caliber in late 2009.

Furthermore, in response to any associated threads regarding our affiliate program, our program, FN Cash, is completely transparent, and provides real time and accurate data for all of our affiliates. It is tailored to make promotion of Fleshlight as simple and lucrative as possible, and our millions of dollars in commissions paid each year are a testament to that fact. We encourage anyone with any questions to investigate for themselves at www.FNCash.com, and we thank those affiliates who have supported us and will continue to support us in the future.

For 1
The model that portrays the TRADEMARK RavenRiley is still working and working hard as of now ... Our disagreement has been settled.. Plain and simple...

and I guess this means that when Adam West stopped being Batman that Warner Brothers just dumped the name didnt they?
Sorry no they didnt..

For 2
But thats ok if you think its right to use someone elses TRADEMARK for your OWN gain..
I didnt bring any of this out period YOU DID..

So BEWARE ALL SOLO GIRL MODELS AND COMPANIES..
this company thinks its ok that if you and your model have problems or that you as a model wish to take a little time off. that they can just run of with YOUR trademark and leave you high and dry..

Good way to do business huh?

That is ALL i have to say about this matter. If the other girls and companies dont care what you do with their TRADEMARK name then good luck with that.

thanks
Tom

The Ghost · 06-25-2009, 09:28 PM

This is a bridge Fleshlight should be weary of burning.

Appreciate the heads up Tom.

Miguel T · 06-25-2009, 09:33 PM

Im not really shocked...

pornlaw · 06-25-2009, 09:34 PM

Can you post (a link to) the contract ? Or excerpts from the contract ? Without the contract there is no way to tell whether they are violating any agreements or infringing any trademarks.

I am not taking sides. I represent a model that has a Fleshlight deal and I have a vested interest in what exactly they are doing or not doing.

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3xTom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,610	Solo/Single girl models and companies BEWARE ABOUT DOING BUSINESS WITH FLESHLIGHT Attention ANYONE with solo models or if you are a solo model yourself.. As anyone here knows I simply don't do drama even when pushed into a corner, I'm not going to get into some big drama filled he said she said battle with anyone at all. I'm not one to come to boards to out anyone that doesn't deserve it. If you know me at all you know my warnings are not blow off the handle bullshit... So All I'm going to do is make a statement, If Fleshlight approaches you to do business with them.... RUN..... RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN THE OTHER WAY.... That's all I'm going to say for now... Take my warning with heed or ignore it all together... Tom

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