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Old 06-30-2006, 07:10 AM   #1
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Lets stop Pornotube before it gets bigger!

Pornotube.com can put all porn webmasters out of business.

I just checked on Alexa and they've recieved over 3,000 visits per million today and are 150th for today! But then I realised it hasn't actually got that many videos on there! so lets add tons of non- porno related videos on there, maybe some that will make them sick (videos and photos of poo) and some random videos that have nothing to do with porn! This way visitors won't be getting what they want and then they'll continue paying for adult videos.

Its worth a try to save the business. Porn shouldn't be all free

I'm sure you all have millions of random videos.

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Old 06-30-2006, 07:12 AM   #2
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dude I aint shutting it down so let it be.....

mmmmmmmmm kkkkkkkkkkkay??????
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Too much free porn is already putting us out of business
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:13 AM   #4
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:14 AM   #5
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free porn is great
Only a surfer would say that
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I will sit here an add all my 80's music videos. Trust me I have millions.
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and juicy, you are soooooooo cute
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:18 AM   #8
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I will sit here an add all my 80's music videos. Trust me I have millions.
put random tags on it, the favourite ones people will search like 'lesbians', 'Milf' etc
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Only a surfer would say that
surfing is great as well, but I still enjoy free porn more
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:28 AM   #10
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Yet another reason to diversify into non-adult arenas.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:31 AM   #11
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Pornotube.com can put all porn webmasters out of business.

I just checked on Alexa and they've recieved over 3,000 visits per million today and are 150th for today! But then I realised it hasn't actually got that many videos on there! so lets add tons of non- porno related videos on there, maybe some that will make them sick (videos and photos of poo) and some random videos that have nothing to do with porn! This way visitors won't be getting what they want and then they'll continue paying for adult videos.

Its worth a try to save the business. Porn shouldn't be all free

I'm sure you all have millions of random videos.
Relax. Concentrate on bringing yourself up, rather than spending your time trying to bring other people down.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:34 AM   #12
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Relax. Concentrate on bringing yourself up, rather than spending your time trying to bring other people down.
Im only bringing them down because they will not care about copy right laws etc. People can just send all their videos that they have got from their paid account and without permission of the video owner, submit them onto pornotube and pornotube staff won't give a shit.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:35 AM   #13
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Yes cause Im sure Pornotube has all the 2257 info. Im also sure they wont be around long. Soon as they get too big they gonna get some litigation on em yo!
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yeh i agree stop this shit.
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Old 06-30-2006, 07:40 AM   #15
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I dont really trust alexa that much for an honest reading
Multi million dollar business owners use Alexa to gauge where to buy traffic.

I guess they are idiot's, eh?
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From AEBN, their response on a board that is owned by one of their employees...

If you are an not an AEBN affiliate, you are fucked.


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Of course!

Beta Phase II features should be rolled out over the next week (maybe two because of the holiday) that will dispel a lot of the fear and loathing you see going on. Of course, I'm talking about the real fear and loathing - not the manufactured nonsense spouted by certain people who have agendas.

My internal motto for x/qpeeps is "everyone makes money". Pornotube is no different. Actually, not everyone makes money. If you partner with AEBN you have the opportunity. Otherwise, sorry! For example, we won't let "Big Bob's Streaming Pile of VOD" use the money making features of the site.

The goals of the site are:

* Support our cash company partners.
* Support our studio/manufacturer partners
* Support our affiliates
* Generate shitloads of traffic for all of our partners (and ourselves)
* Keep fusionx gainfully employed

BTW - that's not in any specific order

No one else has the balls or the bandwidth to do this on a large scale.
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I am already using pornotube.com to make some nice cash, if you aren't you are missing out
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What's nice cash for you Jace?

How long do you think that's going to last when this gets off of Beta?
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What's nice cash for you Jace?

How long do you think that's going to last when this gets off of Beta?
well, I have incorporated pornotube into my regular promotions, so instead of just using pics like I was, I know am able to use video

I have ok'ed what I am doing with all sponsors involved and the people running pornotube.com

the people surfing my sites love it though, and my income has gone up 20% according to stats remote, with the sponsors that I started using on pornotube.com having about 40% more clicks through
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and my income has gone up 20% according to stats remote, with the sponsors that I started using on pornotube.com having about 40% more clicks through
20% of what?

$5K
$50K
$500K
$5000K

Of course videos pull more viewers than pictures... that is not the question... question is that long term we will be giving away content for free - including the good stuff - which would otherwise make us money.

You use it as promotion, which is good, however why is AEBN so hell-bent on giving the surfers a place to upload 100MB videos? There is no need to have a 100MB video on your blog, tgp or gallery.

And why will AEBN not police their own system, but instead say "No one else has the balls or the bandwidth to do this on a large scale"? Sounds like they are ready to serve everyones content - whatever we approve of it or not
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How is that any worse than this?

http://video.yahoo.com/video/search?...-t400&ei=UTF-8
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20% of what?

$5K
$50K
$500K
$5000K

Of course videos pull more viewers than pictures... that is not the question... question is that long term we will be giving away content for free - including the good stuff - which would otherwise make us money.

You use it as promotion, which is good, however why is AEBN so hell-bent on giving the surfers a place to upload 100MB videos? There is no need to have a 100MB video on your blog, tgp or gallery.

And why will AEBN not police their own system, but instead say "No one else has the balls or the bandwidth to do this on a large scale"? Sounds like they are ready to serve everyones content - whatever we approve of it or not
what I make is what I make, not for anyone else to worry about....all that matters is that I saw an increase of click throughs because of the ways I am using it....why are you all so caught up on a dollar figure that people make? if I am comfortable and happy with it, it is no concern of others.

content is being given away for free constantly, everywhere you look around is another tgp/mgp with hundreds of hours of jack off material

while I don't agree that a 100mb video needs to be on there, I also think that aebn knows what they are doing and I doubt you will see any 100mb full scenes on there..or have you found one already and you just haven't posted it? Just like youtube, any service like this is going to run into people that wanna use it for copyright violations, and hopefully aebn, just like youtube, will pull material off that violates any copyrights.

I am using it, I am happy with it, and I have see no material on there that is questionable as of yet....if you have, please point it out to me, but I have been on there every day for the past week and the only thing I see that I object to is those damn dudes jacking off, who the fuck wants to see that?
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I am already using pornotube.com to make some nice cash, if you aren't you are missing out
Anf how are you doing that? I guess if you have your own content and if you are putting your website name on the movies. That shit isn't going to work for affiliates.
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There is a saying I learned which stuck with me.

"Don't worry about other people's businesses worry about your own."

So work on your own business and let others work on there, there is plenty of cash in this business for everyone, and if you spend time on worrying about other peoples business and what there doing all the time you don't make no money.

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Anf how are you doing that? I guess if you have your own content and if you are putting your website name on the movies. That shit isn't going to work for affiliates.
shit, I haven't even done it for our site yet...still working on promoting other sites using pornotube.com as of now ;) ....as an affiliate
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shit, I haven't even done it for our site yet...still working on promoting other sites using pornotube.com as of now ;) ....as an affiliate
How can you do that? You're obviously not using sponsor content

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B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that:

you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize PornoTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service.
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let me state though, I am 100% against illegal use of content...and I think pornotube.com is going to have a huge problem with this, they will constantly be having to monitor what is posted and who posted it....it is a terrible uphill battle that will continue forever

but me, as a paysite owner and affiliate, it is an invaluable tool...it is basically a free video hosting service....and as long as sponsors are all right with what I am doing, I will continue to use it for my purposes
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How can you do that? You're obviously not using sponsor content

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B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that:

you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize PornoTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service.
um...maybe I got the necessary permissions from each individual sponsor?
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um...maybe I got the necessary permissions from each individual sponsor?
How did you get this? "and you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service."

Also most sponsor content has THIER website name in the videos. How is that helping YOU? Wouldn't the surfer just type in the domain name? It's not like the viedos link to your site.
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um...maybe I got the necessary permissions from each individual sponsor?
In writing, with 2257 paperwork, no doubt, right?

I'm not discounting your words in any way, but it is common knowledge that you run forumns for AEBN and work very closely with them.

Some people might take your words about increasing your clicks and money with a raised eye brow.
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In writing, with 2257 paperwork, no doubt, right?

I'm not discounting your words in any way, but it is common knowledge that you run forumns for AEBN and work very closely with them.

Some people might take your words about increasing your clicks and money with a raised eye brow.
huh??? dude, the only thing I do that involves aebn is promote their VOD solution in my members area

run forums? what forum are you talking about?

I am in no way affiliated in any way with aebn whatsoever dude.

to be honest, i don't even know ANYONE at aebn....i saw bishop post on oprano a bunch, but I have never met the guy or even chatted with him.

where in fucks sakes do you all get your information?

anthony, you know what I run and where I run it....I have nothing to hide...you can even look at www.justjace.com and see everything about me...that is what I do, every bit of it
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I'm not discounting your words in any way, but it is common knowledge that you run forumns for AEBN and work very closely with them.
Well I know this now. Um how about REAL affiliates. You know the ones WITHOUT connections. They can't use this. Hell I'm an AEBN affiliate and this is supposedly going to help me. Explain this. There isn't anything about this on their site.
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How did you get this? "and you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service."

Also most sponsor content has THIER website name in the videos. How is that helping YOU? Wouldn't the surfer just type in the domain name? It's not like the viedos link to your site.
I have an email from each sponsor declaring that they know what I am doing with their promotional materials, that is good enough for me

as for their website on the videos, they have that anyway, don't they?

I am leaving this hotel now and getting back on the road, so if I don't answer that is why
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huh??? dude, the only thing I do that involves aebn is promote their VOD solution in my members area

run forums? what forum are you talking about?

I am in no way affiliated in any way with aebn whatsoever dude.

to be honest, i don't even know ANYONE at aebn....i saw bishop post on oprano a bunch, but I have never met the guy or even chatted with him.

where in fucks sakes do you all get your information?

anthony, you know what I run and where I run it....I have nothing to hide...you can even look at www.justjace.com and see everything about me...that is what I do, every bit of it

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Come back Jace, they dont' make me money, you do.
I'll have to log back in Oprano, which I'd rather not do to quote what Bishop said about you running 7 forumns for x p e e p s.com for AEBN.

If Bishop was lying, then you only have him to blame for my source of info.
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Well I know this now. Um how about REAL affiliates. You know the ones WITHOUT connections. They can't use this. Hell I'm an AEBN affiliate and this is supposedly going to help me. Explain this. There isn't anything about this on their site.
dude, I have NOTHING to do with AEBN...

WTF ANTHONY...DUDE...why would you start rumor shit like a little 12 year old grade schooler? that is fucked up man

I am myself, I have NOTHING to do with any company except Seriom, LLC (my corp), Tabitha's Toybox, LLC and I have a paysite in nscash.com
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dude, I have NOTHING to do with AEBN...

WTF ANTHONY...DUDE...why would you start rumor shit like a little 12 year old grade schooler? that is fucked up man

I am myself, I have NOTHING to do with any company except Seriom, LLC (my corp), Tabitha's Toybox, LLC and I have a paysite in nscash.com
Jace,

I'm repeating what Bishop said on Oprano, and if I dig in my ICQ, what he said there.

If I'm wrong, you know who to blame, and it's not me saying you run my forumns.
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I'll have to log back in Oprano, which I'd rather not do to quote what Bishop said about you running 7 forumns for x p e e p s.com for AEBN.

If Bishop was lying, then you only have him to blame for my source of info.
DUDE...I am beginning to think you are a true idiot

my wife and I FUCK ON CAMERA AND HAVE OUR VIDEOS IN HIS PAY PER VIEW

he was saying that because we are in over 70 videos in their vod system, that we make him money

fuck me with a dead racoon

you know anthony, why would you bother to be cool to me on icq and offer help to me if you are just going to try and bring me down in the forums with some high school rumor shit...?

fuck you, and fuck everything you are about...that is fucked up shit man

I am out of here...later
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:55 AM   #41
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Jace,

I'm repeating what Bishop said on Oprano, and if I dig in my ICQ, what he said there.

If I'm wrong, you know who to blame, and it's not me saying you run my forumns.
you are an idiot shit starter, is that all you are good at anymore? cause that is what it seems like....

look at what my wife and I do in this biz, then look at what site bishop helps run...put 2 and 2 together, and you have a nice big FUCK YOU from Jace
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i am really leaving this time

later
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:56 AM   #43
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There will be more of it on pornotube. We cant stop yahoo but we can stop pornotube
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I have an email from each sponsor declaring that they know what I am doing with their promotional materials, that is good enough for me
Knowing you are using their content and giving you permission( with the proper 2257 docs ) are 2 different things.

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as for their website on the videos, they have that anyway, don't they?
Yeah but if I put their vidoes on my site you are going to be damned sure it's link to my sponsor via sponsor code somehow. Surfers are more inclined to click a link than type in a name if given a choice.
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:58 AM   #45
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There is a saying I learned which stuck with me.

"Don't worry about other people's businesses worry about your own."

So work on your own business and let others work on there, there is plenty of cash in this business for everyone, and if you spend time on worrying about other peoples business and what there doing all the time you don't make no money.

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There is a also a saying

'If other people mess with your business, then mess with theirs'

They are messing with others by allowing people to distribute clips which arent free to distribute
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DUDE...I am beginning to think you are a true idiot

my wife and I FUCK ON CAMERA AND HAVE OUR VIDEOS IN HIS PAY PER VIEW

he was saying that because we are in over 70 videos in their vod system, that we make him money

fuck me with a dead racoon

you know anthony, why would you bother to be cool to me on icq and offer help to me if you are just going to try and bring me down in the forums with some high school rumor shit...?

fuck you, and fuck everything you are about...that is fucked up shit man

I am out of here...later
Take a moment here to collect yourself, blowing off your top only brings you to Joesho levels.

I know you are in his VOD, but you forgot to answer if you run forumns for them, which is yes.

I made the comment that you do a lot of business with them, running forumns, and VOD, and that it may raise eyebrows about your defending them.

Now, how does your experience count for a regular joe webmaster who doesn't produce their own content? Sponsor content cannot be used as you MUST have 2257 in writing to use it.
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my wife and I FUCK ON CAMERA AND HAVE OUR VIDEOS IN HIS PAY PER VIEW

he was saying that because we are in over 70 videos in their vod system, that we make him money
Well duh you can use your own shit. I didn't ask about that.
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you are an idiot shit starter, is that all you are good at anymore? cause that is what it seems like....

look at what my wife and I do in this biz, then look at what site bishop helps run...put 2 and 2 together, and you have a nice big FUCK YOU from Jace
Jace,

I had higher hopes for you. You went on the defensive quickly once I mentioned that maybe some people might take your accolades of pornotube.com with a grain of a salt.

You cannot dispute that you do work with AEBN, and I'm not shit stirring, I was pointing out the obvious.
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Well duh you can use your own shit. I didn't ask about that.
That's the point of what I'm trying to get across to him.

He has his own content, it's a different sceanario.

Using other sponsor's content is a black zone.

His experience and Joe Webmaster's are going to be 2 distinct different things.
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Lets leave all this fighting...who is submitting random videos to pornotube? I did about 100 random clips earlier and put popular porn tags on them. I will add more later for sure. my share to try and stop them
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