Rebill without a sale ?? - GoFuckYourself.com

Marialovesporn · 03-05-2009, 06:57 AM

I have this issue. There is a ccbill sponsor I tried to promote. Didn't give me any results. Ratio is on 0 : 10436 right now. So I dropped them. Today I got a rebill from that sponsor. But I never made 1 sale at all, so that looked strange to me.
I contacted ccbill about this matter and they tell me to contact the owner of the site to find out what happened. To quote ccbill : It appears that the webmaster assigned you to this sale. Please contact them for more information.

I will contact him of course but I was wondering. How many of you guys ever got a rebill before you ever made a single sale with that sponsor ?

Darkcrni · 03-05-2009, 07:02 AM

Hmm...nice!

pornguy · 03-05-2009, 07:06 AM

Get with the sponsor and see what they say. I would love to hear this one.

Pornopat · 03-05-2009, 07:47 AM

Sounds like the time Lady Sonia had me set on no rebills and ccbill could not find a damned thing.

seeandsee · 03-05-2009, 07:52 AM

interesting!

u-Bob · 03-05-2009, 07:55 AM

bump for more info

Dirty D · 03-05-2009, 07:57 AM

Sounds like the sponsor may have credited you a sale... probably hoping to keep you as an affiliate!

Marialovesporn · 03-05-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Sounds like the sponsor may have credited you a sale... probably hoping to keep you as an affiliate!

Considering my ratio 0 : 10000 you might be right.
I am that affiliate they wanna have, lol

CCBill Dean · 03-05-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marialovesporn

I have this issue. There is a ccbill sponsor I tried to promote. Didn't give me any results. Ratio is on 0 : 10436 right now. So I dropped them. Today I got a rebill from that sponsor. But I never made 1 sale at all, so that looked strange to me.
I contacted ccbill about this matter and they tell me to contact the owner of the site to find out what happened. To quote ccbill : It appears that the webmaster assigned you to this sale. Please contact them for more information.

I will contact him of course but I was wondering. How many of you guys ever got a rebill before you ever made a single sale with that sponsor ?

I would be happy to look into this for you. You have an ICQ waiting.

Thanks!
Dean
deanr @ ccbill.com
ICQ: 478740081

Iron Fist · 03-05-2009, 09:12 AM

I think it's from those magic join links.

Joe BrainCash · 03-05-2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Sounds like the sponsor may have credited you a sale... probably hoping to keep you as an affiliate!

Good guess DirtyD. It was also my first impression.

Marialovesporn · 03-05-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Dean

I would be happy to look into this for you. You have an ICQ waiting.

Thanks!
Dean
deanr @ ccbill.com
ICQ: 478740081

Added you to my icq.

pornocruto · 03-05-2009, 09:29 AM

wow, really interesting.

could be a few things, but sounds pretty shady.

Maybe they see you had dropped traffic so they decided to "add" a sale and made it a rebill by mistake.

Maybe they were shaving and 1 rebill got through. But wierd in any case.....

Let us know what you hear.

klinton · 03-05-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat

Sounds like the time Lady Sonia had me set on no rebills and ccbill could not find a damned thing.

hmm interesting.....

SteveHardeman · 03-05-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornocruto

wow, really interesting.

could be a few things, but sounds pretty shady.

Maybe they see you had dropped traffic so they decided to "add" a sale and made it a rebill by mistake.

Maybe they were shaving and 1 rebill got through. But wierd in any case.....

Let us know what you hear.

I could be wrong but I don't think it's possible to shave using CCbill. And anything that a sponsor does do with a sale you make will show up in your CCBill admin area.

I think the sponsor credited you a sale trying to keep you interested. It didn't show up as an initial sale because that's only going to pop up when CCBill's system initially records it. If you search your records, I'll bet you got paid for the initial sale even though it didn't show up as an official sale in your stats.

doisdero · 03-05-2009, 11:49 AM

we had a problem with a ccbill sponsor changing hands and ccbill account and in this process the previous rebills were lost, lost i mean to us, they werent being transfered to new account. one solution was the program owner credited us sales, but this was only possible to make with sales they have without an affiliate id.
Maybe they wanted to credit another webmaster, since i dought they would credit you to stay, since you have such a bad ratio.

Marialovesporn · 03-05-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainPat

Good guess DirtyD. It was also my first impression.

I never knew sponsors would credit sales now and then just to make affiliates stay. I can hardly imagine, but maybe some paysite owners can confirm this happens ?
But then, why would a sponsor give me a present, while I have the worst ratio ever ?

Dean from ccbill is looking into it at this moment so we'll see what comes out.

Pornopat · 03-12-2009, 07:27 AM

Has this been resolved? Bump for names.

andrey · 03-12-2009, 07:55 AM

not possible...

StaceyJo · 03-12-2009, 08:08 AM

Interesting.

DutchTeenCash · 03-12-2009, 08:09 AM

love to see what ccbill said as this is virtually impossible

BVF · 03-12-2009, 08:17 AM

In CCbill's admin, with every sale, there is a link that you can click that would assign the sale to an affiliate of your choosing....I've never clicked the link so I don't know the whole process.

tranza · 03-12-2009, 08:23 AM

Interesting...!

ShellyCrash · 03-12-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Sounds like the sponsor may have credited you a sale... probably hoping to keep you as an affiliate!

Ditto to this.

Marialovesporn · 03-16-2009, 07:17 AM

I got a reply from the paysite:

Hi, figured out what happened with this sale.

First off, Marcus, all initial sales are paid 50%. The program where you didn't get paid on your sale was a program we ran for a few days. It was a "trial" program ie: "$ 4.95 for 2 days access" which rebills into a $ 19.95 for 30 days access.

That program was not set up right and turned out not to be very profitable. The Affiliate sale on the "trial" was not set up for a 50/50 split. The Affiliate only recieved 50% of the rebill. We ran it for a couple days and pulled the plug on it. Your sale must have come thru when we ran this special. You didn't get 50% of the initial sale of $ 4.95, but you did get 50% of the rebill.

Now, in regards to all regular sales, yes, any normal sale is paid out 50/50 split.

Thanks,
I hope this clears things up.
Alpha Sky Productions
The Apple Twins

TeenCat · 03-16-2009, 07:20 AM

congrats to the apple twins professionals ...

Pornopat · 03-18-2009, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marialovesporn

I got a reply from the paysite:

Hi, figured out what happened with this sale.

First off, Marcus, all initial sales are paid 50%. The program where you didn't get paid on your sale was a program we ran for a few days. It was a "trial" program ie: "$ 4.95 for 2 days access" which rebills into a $ 19.95 for 30 days access.

That program was not set up right and turned out not to be very profitable. The Affiliate sale on the "trial" was not set up for a 50/50 split. The Affiliate only recieved 50% of the rebill. We ran it for a couple days and pulled the plug on it. Your sale must have come thru when we ran this special. You didn't get 50% of the initial sale of $ 4.95, but you did get 50% of the rebill.

Now, in regards to all regular sales, yes, any normal sale is paid out 50/50 split.

Thanks,
I hope this clears things up.
Alpha Sky Productions
The Apple Twins

That is an "interesting".
Just as interesting as the strongbox advertisement banner on the page for surfers...

After Shock Media · 03-18-2009, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marialovesporn

I got a reply from the paysite:

,
I hope this clears things up.
Alpha Sky Productions
The Apple Twins

Find out why you did not get the sale still - they admit you did not get your cut of the trial sign up. Could go deeper.

Also the second I saw the signature on this it just struck me as super fucking funny. I really did not think these people could mess up anything more than they already have and well they outdid their selves yet again.

AnniKN · 03-18-2009, 07:01 AM

I am in the same situation! I have a rebill going from them as well

it also struck me as odd, but I was pretty damn sure they would never credit a sale just to be nice.

EDIT: although I am under 1:200, and 1:1000 from raws landing on my landing page.

Mefo · 03-19-2009, 08:01 AM

very weird

Iron Fist · 03-19-2009, 08:03 AM

Well I do have to admit.. they sure know how to quickly cancel an affiliate account quickly and accurately....

Let's not be so harsh on them.. they are top notch!

kenny · 03-19-2009, 08:05 AM

That happened to me before with another program and I asked about it and they TOOK it from me!

lol, wasn't mine it was some mistake

Marialovesporn · 07-06-2009, 05:30 AM

Just got an email that they ( Alpha Sky Productions ) are switching to Zombaio as a billing processor.
So if I get this right all my galleries submitted to tgp's have non working links on them in a few days ?

i'll quote a part of the email:

Quote:

We are making the full change over to our new credit card billing provider, Zombaio, this Thursday, July 9th, 2009.

On Thursday we will:

Remove all CCbill join links, CCbill phone and mail order link.

We still have a merchant account with CCBill and you WILL continue to receive any and all rebill sales you have made prior.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-06-2009, 05:40 AM

How the hell did I miss this thread? lolol

Nicky · 07-06-2009, 06:58 AM

LOOOOOL what a surprise this had something with the playas over at alpha sky to do ^^^^

bobby666 · 07-06-2009, 07:04 AM

and i always thought apples are ok and healthy

IllTestYourGirls · 07-06-2009, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666

and i always thought apples are ok and healthy

Take one a day to keep the sales away

Nicky · 07-06-2009, 09:17 AM

WTF I just checked my individual ccbill stats for alphasky due to this thread and YEP I have had 2 of these rebills without initial sale too.

bbm · 07-06-2009, 10:24 AM

very cool

JimmiDean · 07-06-2009, 10:27 AM

Hi we found another way other way to screw you.
We found having multiple billers on the sign up page without a affiliate link that will work was not enough and the odd greedy affiliate still made a sale here and there.
So we added a trial link that paid no one regardless, however we forgot to turn off the rebills duhhh.

Here is a pic of our boobs to make up for it (Inset bubble bath pic here)
Why anyone wastes there hard earned traffic with these guys is beyond me.

Nicky · 07-06-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

Hi we found another way other way to screw you.
We found having multiple billers on the sign up page with out a affiliate link that will work was not enough and the odd greedy affiliate still made a sale here and there.
So we added a trial link that paid no one regardless, however we forgot to turn off the rebills duhhh.

Here is a pic of our boobs to make up for it (Inset bubble bath pic here)
Why anyone wastes there hard earned traffic with these guys is beyond me.

You're ohh so right, I did have a link to their site though on my twin blog since I really wanted to have all twins online that have a site covered.

So Alpha Sky, where is my money? 2 rebills, shouldn't I have gotten paid for the initial join too?

IllTestYourGirls · 07-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

You're ohh so right, I did have a link to their site though on my twin blog since I really wanted to have all twins online that have a site covered.

So Alpha Sky, where is my money? 2 rebills, shouldn't I have gotten paid for the initial join too?

Im amazed no one has made this its own thread.

03-05-2009, 06:57 AM	#1
Marialovesporn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 579	Rebill without a sale ?? I have this issue. There is a ccbill sponsor I tried to promote. Didn't give me any results. Ratio is on 0 : 10436 right now. So I dropped them. Today I got a rebill from that sponsor. But I never made 1 sale at all, so that looked strange to me. I contacted ccbill about this matter and they tell me to contact the owner of the site to find out what happened. To quote ccbill : It appears that the webmaster assigned you to this sale. Please contact them for more information. I will contact him of course but I was wondering. How many of you guys ever got a rebill before you ever made a single sale with that sponsor ?

03-05-2009, 07:06 AM	#3
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03-05-2009, 09:29 AM	#13
pornocruto Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,308	wow, really interesting. could be a few things, but sounds pretty shady. Maybe they see you had dropped traffic so they decided to "add" a sale and made it a rebill by mistake. Maybe they were shaving and 1 rebill got through. But wierd in any case..... Let us know what you hear. __________________ Promote EXTREME porn Earn EXTREME $$$$ Only @ cash.pornocruto.es

03-05-2009, 11:49 AM	#16
doisdero Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 127	we had a problem with a ccbill sponsor changing hands and ccbill account and in this process the previous rebills were lost, lost i mean to us, they werent being transfered to new account. one solution was the program owner credited us sales, but this was only possible to make with sales they have without an affiliate id. Maybe they wanted to credit another webmaster, since i dought they would credit you to stay, since you have such a bad ratio. Last edited by doisdero; 03-05-2009 at 11:51 AM..

03-12-2009, 07:27 AM	#18
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03-12-2009, 07:55 AM	#19
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03-12-2009, 08:17 AM	#22
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03-12-2009, 08:23 AM	#23
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03-16-2009, 07:17 AM	#25
Marialovesporn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 579	I got a reply from the paysite: Hi, figured out what happened with this sale. First off, Marcus, all initial sales are paid 50%. The program where you didn't get paid on your sale was a program we ran for a few days. It was a "trial" program ie: "$ 4.95 for 2 days access" which rebills into a $ 19.95 for 30 days access. That program was not set up right and turned out not to be very profitable. The Affiliate sale on the "trial" was not set up for a 50/50 split. The Affiliate only recieved 50% of the rebill. We ran it for a couple days and pulled the plug on it. Your sale must have come thru when we ran this special. You didn't get 50% of the initial sale of $ 4.95, but you did get 50% of the rebill. Now, in regards to all regular sales, yes, any normal sale is paid out 50/50 split. Thanks, I hope this clears things up. Alpha Sky Productions The Apple Twins

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03-18-2009, 07:01 AM	#29
AnniKN Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South of the border Posts: 1,682	I am in the same situation! I have a rebill going from them as well it also struck me as odd, but I was pretty damn sure they would never credit a sale just to be nice. EDIT: although I am under 1:200, and 1:1000 from raws landing on my landing page. __________________ StraponCash \| HDPays Need affordable Photo Retouching, Video Editing, Design, Coding, Writing or Data Entry? 435-155-252 Last edited by AnniKN; 03-18-2009 at 07:06 AM..

03-19-2009, 08:01 AM	#30
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03-19-2009, 08:03 AM	#31
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Well I do have to admit.. they sure know how to quickly cancel an affiliate account quickly and accurately.... Let's not be so harsh on them.. they are top notch! __________________ i like waffles

03-19-2009, 08:05 AM	#32
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07-06-2009, 05:40 AM	#34
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07-06-2009, 06:58 AM	#35
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07-06-2009, 09:17 AM	#38
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	WTF I just checked my individual ccbill stats for alphasky due to this thread and YEP I have had 2 of these rebills without initial sale too. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

07-06-2009, 10:24 AM	#39
bbm So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,710	very cool

07-06-2009, 10:27 AM	#40
JimmiDean Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Margarittaville Posts: 3,433	Hi we found another way other way to screw you. We found having multiple billers on the sign up page without a affiliate link that will work was not enough and the odd greedy affiliate still made a sale here and there. So we added a trial link that paid no one regardless, however we forgot to turn off the rebills duhhh. Here is a pic of our boobs to make up for it (Inset bubble bath pic here) Why anyone wastes there hard earned traffic with these guys is beyond me. __________________ My God there's Porn on here! Still on the Beach !!! Last edited by JimmiDean; 07-06-2009 at 10:29 AM..