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Old 07-12-2009, 06:11 AM   #51
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Fitty outstanding invoices for $4950, PAY UP BEN and METRO MONEY !!!!!!!
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:13 AM   #52
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Sorry to hear, this is not something that I take lightly, or prefer to do
me neither. it sucks getting ignored when asking for a legitimate payment though and after asking 5 times without any answer i have not much sympathy anymore. so i hope you get your money and then my "client" will be next one on here
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Hope Ben will solve this so you and the others get your money
well, Hope springs eternal
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This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"
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This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"
I find that quite amusing
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Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
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why, because they are not nice at all?
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Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
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Belive it Charles The invoice has been outstanding since mid feb, despite umpteen promies it still has not been paid.
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The fine outstanding gentleman on the right is Ben Jelloun, aka Ben from Holland. The pic in the avatar just does'nt do him justice, so I thought I help along
the fine outstanding gentleman I am sure has launched an outstanding program that can deliver everything outstanding. Right Ben?
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Wow. This is something I'd never have thought Ben would do. Especially to JFK or Tibor. Wow.
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and.......?
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and.......?

And what? what's you're point? Ben, you really need to come in and sort this out asap.
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me neither. it sucks getting ignored when asking for a legitimate payment though and after asking 5 times without any answer i have not much sympathy anymore. so i hope you get your money and then my "client" will be next one on here
Do your clients post on here ?
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if my sarcasm detector works right we can add one more to the list...



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Do your clients post on here ?
well, at least 2 or 3 who work for them. another well known, old, standup porn company, you know?
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for some mysterious reason the money just appeared on my bank account so my drama is cancelled before i even had started it.

i know that does not help you but miracles happen...
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i know that does not help you but miracles happen...
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for some mysterious reason the money just appeared on my bank account so my drama is cancelled before i even had started it.

i know that does not help you but miracles happen...
Are you serious?
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absolutely - a wire for $3000 just came in this morning. i was waiting for it since March 26th and had politely asked several times for payment

things like that happen but i can deal with it as long as people keep communicating and admit their problems. I have one client who owes me like $1.5k who just lost his house - i know that i will not see the money soon. but i know that he will pay as soon as he can afford it. but it's the ignoring part that drives me mad.
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Yo Ben, nice looking sites man. Sorry to read about the mess. Hope you manage to settle with the people that you owe something to.
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Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

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I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.
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Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

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I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.
Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.
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Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.
The bank does not charge me to put a logo on my checks. This is NOT empty promises I'm working on it JFK. Keep you updated.
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Yo Ben, nice looking sites man. Sorry to read about the mess. Hope you manage to settle with the people that you owe something to.
Good to hear from Tjun.
Working hard on the product to clear what's outstanding. This should happen ASAP.
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Dear Ben, YES, you have supported me in the past, I appreciate that, THANK YOU and that was the reason I had let the invoice lapse as far as it did at the time !

What we are talking about here is the outstanding invoice which you have promised to pay numerous times and failed to do so every time!

I have Bills to pay just like everyone else, your failiure to follow tru on your last promise to pay, resulted in me having to rob Peter to pay Paul as I sent a payment to someone else based on your assurances that you pay me.

But, that is neighter here nor there, it is water under the bridge. What you are doing here is making another promise, after ignoring me for a couple of months, to pay me when you can.

I am sorry that is NOT good enough at this point. If I went to the bank and told them I will pay you soon as I can, they would laugh me out of the place.

Ben, with all due respect, I need payment NOW, not more empty promises.
Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.

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the fine outstanding gentleman I am sure has launched an outstanding program that can deliver everything outstanding. Right Ben?
Lori you know me very well. I will not stop until everything is cleared.
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Very interesting.
I been around for 11 years with a create reputation and never fucked anyone in my life and i have no plans to start doing so. Even JFK could agree on that.
So please don't judge if you don't know me personally.
This is business nothing personnel and everyone is having a hard time.

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I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.

No shit. Money makes the world go 'round.


It sounds like your company over-extended in advertising, trying to make a big splash. Then found there wasn't business to support your product.
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Its called bad economy.
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Hope you get it all solved and Ben manages to turn the boat around, good luck!
Working hard as i can to have all the products online and as always i will have the boat turn around.
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Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.


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The bank does not charge me to put a logo on my checks. This is NOT empty promises I'm working on it JFK. Keep you updated.
actually, YES, they do, but what does that have to do with anything ?
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NICE!!!!!

You will be able to play the "bad economy" card for a couple years.

I guess if that's a valid excuse for not meeting your financial obligations to people or paying your bills... webmasters can expect to get fucked over whenever you decide its convenient to you. After all... whats a promise to pay? Just words.
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Wait, is this web arm of Metro distribution? Do they still own all those adult stores on the East Coast? They did have a huge catalog of DVD titles.


A few years ago (and might still be today) Metro was such a bad pay that just about EVERYONE had them on C.O.D. If you gave them terms you'd get burned.
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I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.
I'm not understanding why you would post that you can't currently pay an affiliate from months back but you would like additional affiliates to sign up with your programs... that you can't currently pay?
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Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.
Wow, that's seriously fucked up.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:04 AM   #85
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I'm not understanding why you would post that you can't currently pay an affiliate from months back but you would like additional affiliates to sign up with your programs... that you can't currently pay?
JFK isn't an affiliate. Sounds like Ben (Metro) owes money from some trade show branding/sponsorship stuff.
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Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.
LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.
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2:1 odds there's already an email from the thread starter to have this trainwreck deleted
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Its called bad economy.
if it was only bad economy, you would have told him the truth
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JFK isn't an affiliate. Sounds like Ben (Metro) owes money from some trade show branding/sponsorship stuff.
You are correct,the money's outstanding are for the branding of event pictures in February.
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LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.
yeah... obviously i'm just making it up. i mean... why wouldn't i fabricate a story about you constantly lying to me when you clearly have nothing to do with anything?

... and i've never done it publically before... so it all makes even more sense that i would randomly make something up like this that cost me upwards of 100k, years later.

You are 100% full of shit and you are a liar. You say what people want to hear. You are a salesperson and that's what you do. funny how JFK's story sounds EXACTLY like my only experience with you. You fucking idiots cost me a lot of money.

For whatever reason, you were the one everyone told me to talk to about FedEx sending the computers out. I had MANY MANY MANY conversations with YOU and you had no problems at all lying every time you were asked about it. I've only ever spoke to 4 people at Interclimax. Your 1/2 retarded brother who was fired faster than he was hired. Werner and Claudia.... and YOU. So fuck you. And my only conversation with your brother was to tell him that he's a fucking moron.



A perfect example of where your head is at is this thread. exactly what i am saying and JFK is saying. you blame the economy... you have all kinds of excuses and at the same time you want people to take you at your word and you don't see the contradiction there.

How about this? if you say you're going to do something...do it. If you say "I'm going to mail you a check tomorrow" ... .you wake up tomorrow, write a check and put it in the mail?

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LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.


LOL what a load of crap
he dealt with me all the time

XXX ‎(2:27 PM):
i remember him dealing with you

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
and i had the same issue with the computer

YYY ‎(2:28 PM):
i just need to vent a little about this. i don't post a whole lot these days... but this guy really pisses me off. i didn't realize i was still so upset about this. i lost a lot of money fucking with those people. he's such a fucking liar, its unreal.

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me

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XXX ‎(2:26 PM):
LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.


LOL what a load of crap
he dealt with me all the time

XXX ‎(2:27 PM):
i remember him dealing with you

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
and i had the same issue with the computer

YYY ‎(2:28 PM):
i just need to vent a little about this. i don't post a whole lot these days... but this guy really pisses me off. i didn't realize i was still so upset about this. i lost a lot of money fucking with those people. he's such a fucking liar, its unreal.

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me

Dude what ever you taking let me have some.
On your last post your mentioned
-----That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working. -----

On this post you mention
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me.
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Dude what ever you taking let me have some.
On your last post your mentioned
-----That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working. -----

On this post you mention
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me.
its someone else that contacted me on ICQ a few minutes ago... relating the EXACT same experience.... WITH YOU.

"XXX" is not me dumbass.

maybe we'll start a new "Integrity of Ben" thread everyday as i sort through old e-mails and ICQ conversations. my next thread might be something like "how many girls did Ben fuck at the Interclimax house and was this ever problem for anyone".
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Funny you don't have problem sitting around my table eating that hamburger when you hungry.
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Funny you don't have problem sitting around my table eating that hamburger when you hungry.
Funny you didn't believe me when I told u a certain PR guy you stiffed logged onto my computer and made the initial post that " Metro owed people huge" under my nick at the Starbucks on Topanga

You chose not to believe me.


I thank you for not hiring me on to do your PR for Kenny's movie, and Metro.
I know now you were being a friend by never getting back to me on both counts.

You didn't want me to be in the same predicament as others and I really DO appreciate that.

Everything happens for a reason.
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I am Posting this on behalf of 2Lips Cash, who is NOT registered on the board

Tibor2lips (4:34 PM) :
i cant post dont know how to do it
JFK (4:34 PM) :
are you NOt a member ?
Tibor2lips (4:36 PM) :
No JF never done this, sorry

so here it goes........

Hi Ben, you remember me ? Tibor here from 2Lips Cash, A lot of people know me, being in the business for many years. We never Cheat anybody, but you as it stands, owe us 70,835.00 USD, for months.

So dont please dont say "never fucked anyone in my life and I have no plans to start doing so" . . Just pay me ......

I want my money paid, after all, I did pay all my girls that you have used on your site.

This is just to let everybody know that you owe 2lipscash $70,835.00 USD

I have not said anything up to this point, but I feel I must do so now.
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I am Posting this on behalf of 2Lips Cash, who is NOT registered on the board

Tibor2lips (4:34 PM) :
i cant post dont know how to do it
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are you NOt a member ?
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No JF never done this, sorry

so here it goes........

Hi Ben, you remember me ? Tibor here from 2Lips Cash, A lot of people know me, being in the business for many years. We never Cheat anybody, but you as it stands, owe us 70,835.00 USD, for months.

So dont please dont say "never fucked anyone in my life and I have no plans to start doing so" . . Just pay me ......

I want my money paid, after all, I did pay all my girls that you have used on your site.

This is just to let everybody know that you owe 2lipscash $70,835.00 USD

I have not said anything up to this point, but I feel I must do so now.
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Thx. JF let everybody know, now i dont care anymore, had enough !
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This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"
let me quote you again
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