Linux or FREEBSD for hosting? and why - GoFuckYourself.com

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 03:58 AM

Linux or FREEBSD for hosting? and why

What do you use?

asianseekerz · 09-13-2009, 04:02 AM

linux, because it is easy to maintain

Zyzz · 09-13-2009, 04:02 AM

FreeBSD all the way

rowan · 09-13-2009, 04:02 AM

For web hosting there's probably not that much difference, make the choice based on who is going to be looking after the server...

Twoface31 · 09-13-2009, 04:10 AM

yeah thats great

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

For web hosting there's probably not that much difference, make the choice based on who is going to be looking after the server...

It's managed hosting, and the host (www.isprime.com in this case) provides both.

I wanted to hear your answers and compare it with theirs

Klen · 09-13-2009, 04:12 AM

Linux cent os 5,beacuse it easiest.People promote freebsd beacuse of it's security,but freebsd doesn't have thing anything special when it comes to security except many disabled features which sometimes make it hard to manage it.So if you want linux with security of freebsd,you just need to harden system with things like bastila and grsecurity plus firewall,mod security and many other things.

Klen · 09-13-2009, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH

It's managed hosting, and the host (www.isprime.com in this case) provides both.

I wanted to hear your answers and compare it with theirs

If it's managed hosting then it's completely irrelevant to you what os it since you don't control it.

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Linux cent os 5,beacuse it easiest.People promote freebsd beacuse of it's security,but freebsd doesn't have thing anything special when it comes to security except many disabled features which sometimes make it hard to manage it.So if you want linux with security of freebsd,you just need to harden system with things like bastila and grsecurity plus firewall,mod security and many other things.

I have been a fan of freebsd myself because if the outofthebox security

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

If it's managed hosting then it's completely irrelevant to you what os it since you don't control it.

I was think more like, if one had limits that made it less relevant thinking a few years ahead

NemesisEnforcer · 09-13-2009, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH

It's managed hosting, and the host (www.isprime.com in this case) provides both.

I wanted to hear your answers and compare it with theirs

I?m running FreeBSD at ISPimre. Since you?re doing managed hosting, go with what they recommend. After all, they?re the ones that have to do the maintenance and support.

BTW, what email server are you planning to run?

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

I’m running FreeBSD at ISPimre. Since you’re doing managed hosting, go with what they recommend. After all, they’re the ones that have to do the maintenance and support.

BTW, what email server are you planning to run?

Thx

The email will be on my local MS exchange server here in denmark, just need a smtp relay on the server

ladida · 09-13-2009, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Linux cent os 5,beacuse it easiest.People promote freebsd beacuse of it's security,but freebsd doesn't have thing anything special when it comes to security except many disabled features which sometimes make it hard to manage it.So if you want linux with security of freebsd,you just need to harden system with things like bastila and grsecurity plus firewall,mod security and many other things.

Be quiet

Klen · 09-13-2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH

Thx

The email will be on my local MS exchange server here in denmark, just need a smtp relay on the server

Your isp doesn't have smtp?

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Your isp doesn't have smtp?

yes, and so does the exchange server.

I wont go in to details about the setup for obvious reasons.
The mail lands on MX A (smtp) and relays it to MX B wich is my exchange server.

MX B Only accept incomming traffic from MX A.

That keeps the ddos attacks and scriptkiddies away.
I love to far out in the country to get anything bigger then a 5/5mbit connection.
A larger ddos attack would block access to the Cisco VPS consentrator and customer support
That is why I dont have email or webtraffic go straight to the server.
The outlook webaccess aitn even hosted locally either. Its just the frontend on a remote server

When sending email from my Outlook or outlook-webaccess, it is send out by MX B (domain.local)

Klen · 09-13-2009, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH

yes, and so does the exchange server.

I wont go in to details about the setup for obvious reasons.
The mail lands on MX A (smtp) and relays it to MX B wich is my exchange server.

MX B Only accept incomming traffic from MX A.

That keeps the ddos attacks and scriptkiddies away

When sending email from my Outlook or outlook-webaccess, it is send out by MX B (domain.local)

Nice configuration.

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Nice configuration.

Its the cheapest and safest bang for the bucks, It can run everything safely here with just two Cisco pix 501 for the services, and one linksys for webtraffic.

TrafficRush · 09-13-2009, 06:26 AM

i always liked linux over freebsd..

Phil21 · 09-13-2009, 08:55 AM

Others have said it best, go with whatever the folks maintaining the server are most familiar with with. In the end, there isn't a lot of difference performance wise and such, if ran by competent sys-admins.

I prefer Linux, simply because I *know* linux. If anything happens on Linux, there is a good chance I can recovery/fix it. FreeBSD however, I only know the basics.

If ran by competent folks, you will have a good experience with either.

-Phil

fris · 09-13-2009, 09:04 AM

freebsd always

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-13-2009, 09:18 AM

freebsd 7.x

peedy · 09-13-2009, 10:17 AM

FreeBSD is my preferred choice. the ports system is pure bliss. its also true UNIX and I find there is much more consistant documentation. Some of the highest uptimes (3-4 yrs) are systems running BSD.

baddog · 09-13-2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

If it's managed hosting then it's completely irrelevant to you what os it since you don't control it.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Machete_ · 09-13-2009, 10:30 AM

Thank you very much for all the honest feedback.

I conclude there is no big diff in limits, so I will use whatever they reccomend.

thx

Cyandin · 09-13-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH

Thank you very much for all the honest feedback.

I conclude there is no big diff in limits, so I will use whatever they reccomend.

thx

Yep, if your host is managing it, then going with what they're best at working with will result in the best experience for you.

kmanrox · 09-13-2009, 11:48 AM

i don't have the why for you but over the years my techs have told me freebsd is the most secure... shrug

Mr Pheer · 09-13-2009, 12:12 PM

I prefer FreeBSD, just because I've been using it for over 10 years and am used to it.

rowan · 09-13-2009, 03:58 PM

Even though I said earlier it doesn't matter, I may as well put in my +1 for FreeBSD. Been using it since 1996

CYF · 09-13-2009, 08:22 PM

I run OpenBSD, but I'd pick FreeBSD over linux.

Janak · 09-13-2009, 09:16 PM

Personally fond of CentOS.

inkognito · 09-28-2009, 03:45 AM

vote for *BSD

PowerCum · 09-28-2009, 04:32 AM

Solaris 10, because it blows Linux and BSD.
Otherwise, just Linux.

Davy · 09-28-2009, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianseekerz

linux, because it is easy to maintain

Err, for the same reasons, I chose FreeBSD.

AdultEUhost · 09-28-2009, 08:33 AM

We let customers pick the OS, we normally work with FreeBSD however.

If managed, setup and configurated correctly both linux and unix (freebsd) are a stable and good choice.

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	For web hosting there's probably not that much difference, make the choice based on who is going to be looking after the server...

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Linux cent os 5,beacuse it easiest.People promote freebsd beacuse of it's security,but freebsd doesn't have thing anything special when it comes to security except many disabled features which sometimes make it hard to manage it.So if you want linux with security of freebsd,you just need to harden system with things like bastila and grsecurity plus firewall,mod security and many other things.

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