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Roman Polanski arrested.
For those who may not know who that is he directed the movie Chinatown and won an academy award for directing the movie The Pianist. In 1979 he pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her. Before he was sentence he jumped bond and went to France where he has been living ever since. They don't extradite for non-violent crimes. He went to Switzerland to accept an award and was arrested there. I guess he will now be extradited back the US.
I wonder if he will finally end up in jail. Here is the story. http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/27/...ted/index.html |
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If he's gifted that don't mean he's a god, put that pedo in jail...
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yeah he's been on the lamb for days... dudes goin to the pen. sucks. but hey, 13 years old??? come on man..
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Well, if you are a criminal in hiding, you better should not leave your hide-out.
It's been over 30 years, though. He will plea of lapse of time.
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I was just watching CNN And they said that he may end up fighting the entire plea because there was a conspiracy against him during his original plea. He is claiming that he made a deal to get a specific sentence if he pleaded guilty and now he says there were other dealings and information that told him he would not be getting that sentence so he ran
So it looks like once again if you have money you can do what you want, plead guilty to crime, leave the country and stay on the lamb for 30 years and still possibly not get punished. |
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Amazingly talented but time to face the music.
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A grown man having anal sex with a drugged up 13 year old is not considered a violent crime? I'd call that rape.
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This case is taking an odd turn as the victim no longer wants these charges and there's been a lot of support for clemency on this case. Interesting to see if he gets charged or not.
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She looked like this back than:
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He looks creepy.
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Um actually before he fled the prosecuter and Polanski had a plea deal. It's the judge( now deceased ) that fucked the whole thing up.
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raping a drunk 13 year old is pretty low, rope is cheap
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"The director pleaded guilty in 1977 to a single count of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, acknowledging he had sex with a 13-year-old girl." That totally different that saying "pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor when he gave booze and drugs to a 13 year old and then had sex with her" The DA said he drugged and raped her. And if they had a case why give him a plea deal that had no jail time except for the 42 days he already served? |
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Just reading about him, I didn't know that most of his family died in the concentration camps during WWII and he survived the war with the help of Polish Roman Catholic families.
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This happened after the murder of his wife right?? Well he was desperate for young meat..
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That would tend to fuck someone up I would suspect. And Tate wasn't just pregnant she was nearly due. The Swiss cops arrest him 2 days after the death of one of the Manson family and the one that admitted she was the one that actually stabbed Tate to death. Nice timing cops.
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That's not the girl, that's Catherine Deneuve
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Noooooooooooooooo! PS: The girl on the pic is the timeless Deneuve...
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Sleeping with a 13 year old is WRONG, but the facts in this case are being completely twisted.
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The reason the DA was so quick to come to a plea agreement with Polanski is because of the character issues with the victim. The 13 year old model Polanski took photos of and later had sex with was not a virigin, and in fact had slept with numerous other adult men, also photographers. Prior to the charges the girl's mother was aware her daughter drank, smoked pot and had affairs with adult men. Huge credibility issues there ![]() I keep reading these stories that Polanski just skipped town when faced with the charges and it's complete bullshit. Polanski did everything the DA asked him to, he only skipped town when his plea bargain was renegged- after he had served the time requested. Even the original prosecuter in the case has called for the charges to be dropped and has publically admitted that what happened to Polanski after he served his time was a criminal miscarrage of justice on the part of the presiding judge. |
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The guy jumped bail. It seems pretty cut and dry.
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The part I forget is if they addressed in the film anything to do with any sort of statute of limitations, or if there isn't one then why isn't there one? I've wondered that for a while now, how after 30 years and in light of all the inner facts of case, all the behind the scenes information etc, how it can still be hanging over the guy's head like it is.
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There was some serious momentum to have the charges dropped a few years ago but the judge said he'd only hear the case if Polanski came back to the states and turned himself over to US authorities, to which Polanski said no. I mean, I can't fucking blame the guy. He spend 40 some odd days in Chino after he voluntarily committed himself to a nuthouse for psychiatric evaluation, all at the behest of the DA. He played the game and did everything they asked of him to the letter and then the judge tried to fuck him over. It's never ok for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old, but given the circumsrtances everyone involved including the victim and the prosecutor agree he's served his time. The fact that they arrested him is pretty weak. ![]() |
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I think he could have served 3 yrs, or 10 yrs, and if it came out today that he was arrested again and the whole story came out like it was new again, you'd still have people full of zeal to lynch him. Sucks that the prosecution there fucked up, but they did and that's that. The time for this trial was 30 yrs ago.
We have athletes in jail for 21 days after killing innocent pedestrians on the roads.
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it's about time they caught up with him...
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Burn him at the stake
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saw an interesting documentary about him a few months ago
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![]() They threw a bone to the US under pressure with the UBS Bank situation.
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gonna be interesting to see where this case goes. Just saying "old guy had sex with 13 year old" is going to make people want him in jail. Listing all the facts in the case you can see it is not so clear cut.
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To the people defending Polanski.......... would he have any supporters if he was just some local loser who had tricked a 13 year old into having sex with him? No one would dare defend him. He would do his 10 years and suffer the consequences and then come out and be a registered sex offender for life and everyone would scream in unison that he should have his balls cut off, be killed in some gruesome fashion, etc.
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People are defending him? sheesh Why bother?
It's a legal case. Let lawyers worry about shit like "defense". Just make it go away.
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If it is okay to sleep with a 13 year old because she had already had sex then I suppose you can't rape a porn star either. What somebody has done in the past doesn't define every situation.
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He not quite raped her because she said she wanted him. Anyway, I agree that what he did was not right and he should get some punishment.
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No excusing it though, renegging on the original deal/sentence was a pretty suck-ass thing to do. And you'd think the authorities and legal systems of the world have better things to do than rehashing 30 yr old cases where the so-called victim isn't even interested in pursuing it and hasn't been for decades.
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I am glad that we as a country have come a long way in not blaming the victim anymore. Just because she had sex with other men, does not mean she was not raped in this situation.
Either way someone messed this case up. I have no idea why the Swiss are doing this now?, but they must be under extreme pressure from our government now to turn himover to them. |
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I'm not saying he's innocent, I'm saying he served his time for what they could charge him with.
I think this is a case where it was his fame that got him in trouble instead of the other way around. Personally, I think the girl's mother should have gone to jail as well. It almost seemed like she was whoring her daughter out. She knew her daughter was doing drugs and having sex with the photogs she went on shoots with before Polanski and she never did anything to stop it, in fact did the opposite. If Polanski wasn't who he was nothing would have come of it, just as they never filed charges against any of the photogs who came before him. Polanski's fame fucked him again when his plea agreement fell through. Because the case was receiving so much press the judge thought it would be a great opportunity to keep his name on the media and make himself look tough on crime. That's why they renegged after he had done his time served. He didn't fucking escape from Chino, they let him out because he had served his time per the district atty. Just ask Plaxico Burress, sometimes being famous in this country can fuck you when someone sees an opportunity to make a stand. |
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Btw. there is one more interesting fact about this - what's going on in Switzerland. Switzerland used to be a neutral ground and it looks like it is not anymore. Now any government can fuck u there and your bank accounts too. The phrase "Swiss bank" means nothing more like just a bank from now. Swiss banks privacy is gone
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People do two years on Rikers for illegal possession of a firearms all the time (NYC has very draconian gun laws with very harsh sentences). All that happened with Buresss is that he got the sentence anyone else would have gotten instead of the usual celebrity discount.
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If, and I say if, the reports of booze and drugs being involved are true. Do you then take it that a 13 year old can consent? |
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He's slimeball. The girl was only 13 for pete's sake!
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After making my original post I then made a second post stating that there were questionable things going on in the case. Still, the guy had a sesx with a 13 year old, it isn't like he an innocent person who is getting railroaded. He should be brought back here, they should look into the case and see what happened and then decide the best legal course of action from there. If that ends up being that he get let go, so be it. If that ends up meaning he goes back on trial so be it. |
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The guy 76 today, if he did this 30 years ago he would be 46.
At the age of 46 he had sex with a 13 year old. The guy is pedophile and should be treated as such..
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bs, this is nonsense, polanski is a brilliant artist, his pregnant wife was shoot and killed by charles manson and he had a very bad time afterwards (when the stuff with the girl happend..)
nowadays he just makes genious movies (real movies, not the usual bingo bango ) and this is story is just old bs .god i hope he is free soon |
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I wonder why they waited until Saturday to arrest him.
Was it really that the Swiss succumbed to the pressure from the US over the UBS bank stuff do you think? |
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Fact is the DA made a deal and should abide by it. Like it or not. The deal was for no extra time. Want to give him some time for running off, fine. If he went to trial 30 years ago he'd gotten less time then he would today, if any. The fact is even the "victim" wants this to be dropped and in the end if the victim doesn't want it to go further it's none of the DAs fucking business. She already sued Polanski and she got a nice big check in an out of court settlement. So it's over. Obviously you think he's a pedo and by your comments those that you think "support" him make you sick. So by inference you are saying we support pedophilia. Accusing someon of that is a BANNABLE offense on this board. So I'd fucking check your ass right fucking now. |
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