GFGFY - what the fuck?

[Carmine Raguso]

Did everyone leave because of the skin? Seems to be quite a few people over there? Not giving the URL but people that were loyal here sure turned into fags.

WOW. I happened to notice the post before it was deleted. How long until that place gets shut down by Playboy? Such blatant infringement it's not funny.

What a sad day

[Nicky]

Who cares, It's just another board, GFY is still the largest and will be for a good time.

[Carmine Raguso]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Who cares, It's just another board, GFY is still the largest and will be for a good time.

No I completely agree, but big names have jumped ship and even started their own subforums there

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Is that the one Donny Long is hitting up GFY members on icq to join?

EDIT: It's not, Donny's is very similar though LOL wow.

[Carmine Raguso]

Originally Posted by area51

Is that the one Donny Long is hitting up GFY members on icq to join?

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Even more people at another board that reminds me of NP back in the day.

[J. Falcon]

They'll be back.

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

They'll be back.

[beefbarron]

Caramine is your avatar a joke to how widespread that image has circulated in ads for that retarded "300" workout blog?

[Deej]

What forum? Is it the one donny hit me up about? I havent seen it yet, but warn as if its the one or not...

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Deej

What forum? Is it the one donny hit me up about? I havent seen it yet, but warn as if its the one or not...

No, Donny's is a knock off of the knock off lol

Yeah, Mike and DWB's knock off is a good one, but Donny's is like GFY raped GFGFY and that's what came out of it...

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Yeah, Mike and DWB's knock off is a good one, but Donny's is like GFY raped GFGFY and that's what came out of it...

yup. I love it! A knock off of the knock off!! Got to love Donny for that one.

[CYF]

that douchebag itouch/elitechris/tightcams is over there by the name of Chris looking for blog writing work.

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/923368-elitechris-fucking-cheater.html

[pornpf69]

people are learning the power they have... if they are not around here this place dies... as they will not be able to sell ads... so the members want GFY to think who they will be selling ads to... specially skins...

[TheDoc]

It's much calmer around here with all the coke heads gone.


Yes, I know not all of them were on drugs... but man, GFY is way calmer now (not slower, calmer), way less bitching and flat out attacks for no reason, lots of business threads. I kind of like it.

[TurboAngel]

I'm happy right here!

[dyna mo]

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

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[seeandsee]

they cant live with out gfy

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

they cant live with out gfy

I dont know about that. It looks pretty GFYish with good posts and good posters.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

They'll be back.

ya gfy has always been cyclical..

[Spunky]

Flavour of the week.

[F-U-Jimmy]

The new board reminds me of how GFY used to be in its prime. Sure there will be assholes who sign up just for shits a giggles. But its looking way more business like than here and they don't support tube sites !

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

The new board reminds me of how GFY used to be in its prime. Sure there will be assholes who sign up just for shits a giggles. But its looking way more business like than here and they don't support tube sites !

I feel business has picked up here and way less 'trash' has been taking place.

But true, the posters may not support tube sites.. but they have all pirated music, movies, software, lifted from a store, borrowed a cd from a friend... or made satire copyrighted youtube videos..

I don't see why it's any different.... unless it's because I own it, but that would be a double standard, two faced, I mean... really a little bitch.

[F-U-Jimmy]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I feel business has picked up here and way less 'trash' has been taking place.

But true, the posters may not support tube sites.. but they have all pirated music, movies, software, lifted from a store, borrowed a cd from a friend... or made satire copyrighted youtube videos..

I don't see why it's any different.... unless it's because I own it, but that would be a double standard, two faced, I mean... really a little bitch.

Personally I don't have proof that anyone on the other board steal movies, images or music and I don't like to make assumptions. What I did see with my own eyes is GFY openly supporting tubes and tube site ( illegal tubes ) which directly and negatively impact my business. Im against ? theft no matter how small as i make my living from Photography..

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I feel business has picked up here and way less 'trash' has been taking place.

But true, the posters may not support tube sites.. but they have all pirated music, movies, software, lifted from a store, borrowed a cd from a friend... or made satire copyrighted youtube videos..

I don't see why it's any different.... unless it's because I own it, but that would be a double standard, two faced, I mean... really a little bitch.

Again only thing I have done is the parody, which is 100% legal
Oh and I may have had someone let me borrow a book, CD er wait no, DVD, or tape before. I however never made a copy, I never distributed it to other people, and again that also is also 100% legal. It was never duplicated, the original purchased copy just changed hands.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Personally I don't have proof that anyone on the other board steal movies, images or music and I don't like to make assumptions. What I did see with my own eyes is GFY openly supporting tubes and tube site ( illegal tubes ) which directly and negatively impact my business. Im against ? theft no matter how small as i make my living from Photography..

Many of them have admitted it on gfy but don't feel it's the same thing or said, they no longer do it, excuses either way.

We did see the supporting of the tubes.. can't deny that.


It's not like I support what GFY did or the idea of people stealing shit and profiting from it. That just sucks..

I just don't give a shit though. If I was to truly care about this, open my morals up. I would be able to blast 90% of the people in the other forum for breaking federal, state, and local laws left and right.

We are talking about some big affiliate programs all the sudden acting all golden.


This industry like the best friend that tells your mom every time you say a bad word, then once in the clear he says to you, haha, gotcha dick head.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Again only thing I have done is the parody, which is 100% legal
Oh and I may have had someone let me borrow a book, CD er wait no, DVD, or tape before. I however never made a copy, I never distributed it to other people, and again that also is also 100% legal. It was never duplicated, the original purchased copy just changed hands.

Parody that creates an original work and doesn't use the original work?

Never downloaded an mp3? Software, adobe, windows, something?

Never typed in your 'favorite show name episode' into youtube and watched just about anything you have ever wanted? Will you now?

If not.. kick ass, I know we are all guilty of of some crime but you may have earned your right to bitch. I know I haven't.

[F-U-Jimmy]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Many of them have admitted it on gfy but don't feel it's the same thing or said, they no longer do it, excuses either way.

We did see the supporting of the tubes.. can't deny that.


It's not like I support what GFY did or the idea of people stealing shit and profiting from it. That just sucks..

I just don't give a shit though. If I was to truly care about this, open my morals up. I would be able to blast 90% of the people in the other forum for breaking federal, state, and local laws left and right.

We are talking about some big affiliate programs all the sudden acting all golden.


This industry like the best friend that tells your mom every time you say a bad word, then once in the clear he says to you, haha, gotcha dick head.

Well i guess the guys that started the new board do care, including myself, at least in this one instance. But it would make for a very interesting and spirited thread if you did care enough to go over to the other board to post your thoughts.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Parody that creates an original work and doesn't use the original work?

Never downloaded an mp3? Software, adobe, windows, something?

Never typed in your 'favorite show name episode' into youtube and watched just about anything you have ever wanted? Will you now?

If not.. kick ass, I know we are all guilty of of some crime but you may have earned your right to bitch. I know I haven't.

Parody again is legal, follow along. Even if it uses copyrighted material. Though my own morals would make me pay the owner some royalty if I made it. Otherwise I would be guilty by just listening to some weird al cd that I paid for.

Never download any music except from itunes, once from zoom, and some actual classical stuff (way out of copyright).
Software downloaded would only be trials, freeware, or shareware and if I use it over I typical send in a donation.
Did download a copy of two shows I missed due to cable problems. Again you may say I am splitting hairs but I did pay to view these already and was deprived of my right to do so.

Have I committed crimes, yup. Just have not done any that relate to what we are talking about.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Well i guess the guys that started the new board do care, including myself, at least in this one instance. But it would make for a very interesting and spirited thread if you did care enough to go over to the other board to post your thoughts.

I really only post here on GFY... and one other place. Truly, if I was going to post any other place or show my support, it would be on the other board I use.



I support the people that got pissed, that never want to post here again or want to take a break. From the posts to the bitching.. totally understandable.

Just some people have taken this to stupid.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Parody again is legal, follow along. Even if it uses copyrighted material. Though my own morals would make me pay the owner some royalty if I made it. Otherwise I would be guilty by just listening to some weird al cd that I paid for.

Never download any music except from itunes, once from zoom, and some actual classical stuff (way out of copyright).
Software downloaded would only be trials, freeware, or shareware and if I use it over I typical send in a donation.
Did download a copy of two shows I missed due to cable problems. Again you may say I am splitting hairs but I did pay to view these already and was deprived of my right to do so.

Have I committed crimes, yup. Just have not done any that relate to what we are talking about.

Parody is only legal if you made something new, like weird al, is original work. It always has to be an original creation or it's copyright infringement.

The Supreme Court of the United States stated that parody "is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works."


Really man, I don't care wtf you have done... I'm not here to pass judgment. But we are all guilty of something... so check your moral values at the door.

If it isn't you, then ask the massive amount of hooker, blow, blowjob begging, pill poping, g/h dropping girl rapping assholes that frequent our Industry events...

As if 90% of the noses are clean in this Industry.

The other 10% bitch away..

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by area51

Is that the one Donny Long is hitting up GFY members on icq to join?

EDIT: It's not, Donny's is very similar though LOL wow.

whats the name of his board? (not url just the name)

[alias]

Threads/posts: 129 / 1,218, meh.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

When the people on that board actually unite and take real action against content piracy, instead of simply paying lip service to the issue, then I might sign up.

I attended one of the first anti-piracy (content theft) conferences a few years ago, convened by a1r3k. DWB and I were among the most outspoken on the issue. I still respect both of them as righteous dudes with good ideas and principles.

I was disappointed when the big players in the industry stood idle on the sidelines. I was even more disappointed when they did little to nothing to initiate action on behalf of the industry, and was somewhat shocked when many of them were co-opted and even developed their own tube sites based upon stolen content.

Nothing shocks me much anymore.

I see big programs betting the farm that short term market share/traffic is more important than actual profits (ask Adult Friend Finder how their IPO is going, and you'll see the disaster in store for most of those programs betting their money on that), and no existing coherent industry strategy for turning the tide against content thieves.

If the big players in the industry can't see that their current course is imploding upon them (and by extension, us all), then they are truly oblivious to what is going on.

As an independent, I have always been more of a small ball player...

All I can advise during these bleak times is to stay the course, stick to your core business and principles, get those base hits, and score runs (sells), according to your own strategy.

The time is past due for the big hitters to step up to the plate. If they take down even a few of the thieves, I believe the tide could still be turned to the advantage of honest programs and the adult industry as a whole.

They can either continue to do nothing and slowly bleed to death, or be co-opted, and ultimately discover that the business model underlying the loss-leader style of most current piracy sites is unsustainable, or they can spearhead a concerted drive by the companies that play by the rules, and are unafraid of competition on a level playing field, and help bring the industry back from the precipice.

I hope that they will make the correct decision...

ADG

[Carmine Raguso]

Originally Posted by beefbarron

Caramine is your avatar a joke to how widespread that image has circulated in ads for that retarded "300" workout blog?

Absolutely!

[katharos]

Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso

How long until that place gets shut down by Playboy?

if the site will be shut down with playboy, i am done with adult biz cause it will mean there are only fucking assholes all around fighting each other instead of fighting real pain in ass ... how can someone even think about it?

[alias]

Kinda shitty about the whole drm fail in these days eh?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

GFY openly supporting tubes and tube site ( illegal tubes ) which directly and negatively impact my business.

are you guys going to start boycotting designers who design the tubes next?

Many tiube designers on GFY, I dont see you guys going after them ;)

LOL

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by katharos

if the site will be shut down with playboy, i am done with adult biz cause it will mean there are only fucking assholes all around fighting each other instead of fighting real pain in ass ... how can someone even think about it?

Okay I am quoting this...

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

are you guys going to start boycotting designers who design the tubes next?

Many tiube designers on GFY, I dont see you guys going after them ;)

LOL

Designers, hosts, sponsors that advertise on them, upload content they own to tubes, ever advertised on piracy, paid a password guy.... "EVERY" broker of traffic of any kind in our Industry, the people that put on trade shows, our industry magazines, many resources... I could keep going...

Or the absolute 100% fact that Brazzers pre-pays 100's (it's a lot) of people, for traffic/sales for everything they own. And out of that, the majority of top traffic guys sell to them, most brokers broker for them, and a crazy f'in amount of affiliate programs sell mobile traffic to them.

I won't even get into content dvd selling / brokering of that business and who these people are selling to.


These are ALL the same people, bitching and yelling, going to shows, shaking hands and doing blow, with the exact same people that rip them off, every day.

[seeric]

ohhh noooossssss look at me i'm loose on the internetsssssssss

[Agent 488]

hey should call that place the glue factory.

anyhow, most of the other boards have died worse than gfy. the industry has taken a huge hit along with every other in this economy.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Designers, hosts, sponsors that advertise on them, upload content they own to tubes, ever advertised on piracy, paid a password guy.... "EVERY" broker of traffic of any kind in our Industry, the people that put on trade shows, our industry magazines, many resources... I could keep going...

Or the absolute 100% fact that Brazzers pre-pays 100's (it's a lot) of people, for traffic/sales for everything they own. And out of that, the majority of top traffic guys sell to them, most brokers broker for them, and a crazy f'in amount of affiliate programs sell mobile traffic to them.

I won't even get into content dvd selling / brokering of that business and who these people are selling to.


These are ALL the same people, bitching and yelling, going to shows, shaking hands and doing blow, with the exact same people that rip them off, every day.

Can save you some keystrokes Doc.

"Hypocrisy"

Ill believe people actually give a shit when they DO SOMETHING about it. I've been bitching for 2 years now about the issue, and I ain't mad at gfy for a skinning. lol Whole industry is a bunch of people jumping on whatever bandwagon they think might get people to favor them. Pathetic really.

[CyberHustler]

Have yall seen Donny Long's GFGFY bootleg called GFT? It's the bootleg of the bootleg GFY. Hit me up on ICQ for the link and a laugh, no joke.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Can save you some keystrokes Doc.

"Hypocrisy"

Ill believe people actually give a shit when they DO SOMETHING about it. I've been bitching for 2 years now about the issue, and I ain't mad at gfy for a skinning. lol Whole industry is a bunch of people jumping on whatever bandwagon they think might get people to favor them. Pathetic really.

So true... so extremely true.

What you are seeing today is what happened to mainstream porn (dvd) companies back in the 90's, they got stuck in the 80's way of doing things. They refused to move forward or follow technology and now the majority are gone.

This is happening today... a massive amount of people are stuck in the 1990's way of doing things. We are seeing history repeat itself right in front us, again. This being stuck, makes it so they can't see what's happening right in front of them.


Adapt or die should be our entire Industry slogan, from the dawn of our industry it has been, Adapt or die for everyone.

[NetHorse]

That forum is fucking retarded, there isn't even any program discussion going on over there. It's just basically an off-topic forum with useless jabbering.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Have yall seen Donny Long's GFGFY bootleg called GFT? It's the bootleg of the bootleg GFY. Hit me up on ICQ for the link and a laugh, no joke.

just post the name without the .something pls