SleazyDream

if you got something new... NOT the same old reality, cam or dating site..........


does a new affiliate program have a chance in today's market?

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CunningStunt

Not with you at the helm

SleazyDream

you really have some hate issues with me....

did I pee in your corn flakes or something?

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bns666

fresh niched stuff always has a chance.

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SleazyDream

what of you don't have fresh niches stuff...



but an idea........

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CunningStunt

I respect you for what you've done, but to ask such a daft question really makes you look, well, daft.

Anything with the right marketing spin will sell, you should know that.

What are you doing now for a crust btw? I could do with a failed entremanure on my staff.

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Something that is really new always has a chance.

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SBJ

If the crew for the new program knows what they are doing a new program can still make money but the way things are today if the program is run by someone that is new to the game they won't make money cause it's way too hard to start today if you don't know what you are doing..

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frank7799

It depends on various factors - internal as well as externel. You can even sell a standard porn site today if you are doing it right.

Your question can´t be answered, I think. You need to be more specific.

If you have a unique product, good marketing skills, quality traffic and a sufficient amount of money to invest, you will be able to build a succesful affiliate program even in todays market.

SleazyDream

i'm thinking honestly you're not very successful. most successful entrepreneurs fail MANY MANY more times than they succeed.

anyone who needs to put someone else down usually has a lot of internal problems

esp those that hide their identity.

pretty much every insult you throw at me tells me more about what your own problems are.


I hope things get better for you

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CunningStunt

You crack me up.

You're so defensive. I know you tanked and are at a low ebb. I could easily put the boot in more but I respect what you've done in the past, and credit where credit is due.

I've failed many times in the past, but am now set for life, so there's no worry there. I suggest you read "Losing my virginity" by Richard Branson, if you haven't already. If you want, I'll post it to you.

SleazyDream

i honestly don't see myself at a 'low ebb' at all - that's your perception and you're entitled to it.

I believe saying "i'm set for life" is like ordering my tomb stone. I see it as giving up.

funny- every time you post you reveal more and more about you insecurities....


curious - what exactly HAVE you done? who are you?

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CunningStunt

So you don't consider yourself at a low ebb, but you failed in this and a few other busineses. How does that work? What does it take to put you at your lowest ebb?

I don't want to blab in a public forum like you love to so much, I'll keep my own house nice and tight and in order, thanks.

Back to your original question:

What chance does a new affilate program have?

As much as chance as it always has had.

You're turning into a troll. Very sad to see.

After Shock Media

If the idea is valid, you shoot it in quality over quantity, protect the content from day 1. Then you would be mostly there. Add in the number of contacts you have and you will at very least see a positive cash flow even in todays times. How much and how long, I could not answer as I have zero idea of what you want to make.

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What chance? Well, I'd say there is a good chance their exclusive content would be stolen and uploaded to tube sites.

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SleazyDream

turning into a troll? dude I've ALWAYS BEEN A TROLL. idiot.

my lowest ebb wouldn't be related primary to financial wealth in my current Canadian society. I could slip way lower - and welfare here in canada isn't even that bad so I don't see material things as the end all be all. If i have basic needs like food and cloths, a roof over my head and health care, what else do I really need? The rest is fluff - sure it's nice but in the end it's all just fluff

Family, health, state of mind, friends - those are the things that could fuck up and take me to bad places.

I feel real pitty for those that think material things are the end all be all.

I saw it in many people and really feel bad for them - some were friends too.

it's ok, I already know you're a coward. Only cowards punch without the risk of getting hit.

That's clear so far.

The sport I have the MOST respect for is boxing - why? it's not about what you can dish out - sure that' s part of it and the losers get caught up in that aspect of it and ANY idiot can dish it out- but what boxing is REALLY about is how much you can TAKE. That's a real man - toe to toe and able to take anything you throw at him and ask for more. That's strength.

Keep dishing it out, it says a LOT about you.

I'm right here.

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SleazyDream

what if you WANTED that to happen and could make money off it?

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quiet

i seriously can't sleep. thanks for a little bit of drama while i wait to get tired enough to crash.

CunningStunt

I think you've pretty much lost your mind.

As for toe to toe, bring it, I've been practicing Wing Chung for 9 years.

SleazyDream

then post who you are and what you do.

I just stepped up to the line. toe to toe

got the balls or are you just another keyboard warrior coward.......

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SleazyDream

I aim to please

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CunningStunt

What do you have in mind affiliate program wise, now you have my attention.

SleazyDream

wow you really are avoiding the issue now arn't you?

brook brook brook brook brook

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CunningStunt

Huh? What issue are you banging on about?

At least you're getting lots of attention now, that's the main thing. Well done.

SleazyDream

who are you and what do you do?


brook brook brook brook brook brook

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SleazyDream

the more I think about it - the more I realize someone who has to hide who they are and what they do is someone who is SERIOUSLY AFRAID of me.

;)

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CunningStunt

Hiding? Why would I be "afraid" of a failed entremanure? Or even a successful one for that matter?

Thanks for the entertainment though, there's a movie on now I want to catch.

SleazyDream

interesting referral code .... lets me know exactly who you are.

like always you run away.

you've always been a coward.

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xentech

Of course. If you have something that will make people money and you are good at marketing it then why wouldn't it have a chance? But more than likely your idea is shit.



If you have faith in this idea then why don't you just fucking do it instead of asking on this forum, it's not going to help you at all. How are people even supposed to answer these stupid questions?

Sounds to me like you're just putting mysterious shit out there so people contact you personally about your idea.

xentech

I just noticed you've been on this forum since 2001.. If you're still supposedly failing after that then just give up, at least on adult. It's a tough niche and if you put the same amount of work elsewhere you can make a shit load more money.

SleazyDream

soo much hostility. I AM doing it - working on it every day for 12+ hours a day PLUS my other work.... it'll be ready soon ;)

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SleazyDream

who said I was failing? I've made millions in adult and other businesses....

lost millions too LOL

but I have fun!!!!!!!!

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SleazyDream

wow soooo many jealous and negative idiots on GFY..... one would think everyone's bitter these days...

why am I soo happy then?

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quiet

still awake. anyway, i consider you a friend after all the years (at least an internet friend lol, a little bit more actually). if you want me to shut up, no problem, just say the word. basically, i just feel pretty bad for you, and as much as i am sure you will do act two and rock it out and do something great (or at least good)........ i have to ask, do you regret getting all of your money sucked out from underneath you, and having to start over?

jesus, that sounds like hell. once i really started making money, i was very careful with it, and once i was done, i was SUPER careful with it. i am starting a new biz here in Whistler, but that is all play money, i am *extremely* careful with my major cash/investments. i probably sound like an ass (not trying to though), and just ignore if you don't want to answer here. we are both on facebook

SleazyDream

I just visited hell on a tourist trip. I have no intenshion to stay there.

honestly - sure I'd like to still have the money. Who wouldn't? But about 15 years ago I was married and broke as shit recently out of college. My wife was a teacher and I said to her one day - KNOWING I would make millions one day that I'm capable of taking big risks that I will probably go bankrupt one day and make it again. I WARNED her seriously about that. And I said if that DIDN't happen by age 45 I would put all my assets in trust and start from scratch. She flipped. She said no fucking way could I give everything away or loose everything. years later I left her LOL

Some things in life I've always just KNOWN - I always KNEW i'd go bankrupt at least once in my life. Honeslty ALWAYS KNEW it. and I'm happy it was for a decent sized number!

I come from a family of people who work for themselves and gamblers. Some of us get the rush in a casino - others in business. I'm the latter.

A life changing moment for me was when i was, shit can't remember the exact age but somewhere between 8 and 14 - with my father, great uncle daniel and one of my dad's friends driving home from the race track late at night. My great uncle danial made millions in the 60's in the concrete biz. Anyway my dad was in the front seat and daniel was driving. My dad was whining about loosing to much money (he still could feed the family but he def lost to much that day) - he went on and on about it for about 30 mins (it's an hour drive home on an empty highway) till suddenly daniel hit the brakes and everyone kissed the windshield. He turned and looked to my Dad and said - " what the fuck are you whining about - you work for yourself - go make some more" - that kinda defined there and then how I look at money from a philosophical standpoint.

Daniel was able to live comfortably (actually really comfortably) his whole life till about a year or two before he died. He ran out of money - and laughed that he lived too long. 2 years before he died he gave his last asset to his daughter - his house for her and her family to live in - and went on social assistance. He always said he never regretted it.(he was in his 80's, it was his time)


Do I have regrets - sure as hell I do but hopefully I learned from them. I could have bailed way earlier on the real estate thing and walked away with piles of money - I made a conscious calculated decision to go all in. It wasn't made lightly. It looked like it would work at the time. I was wrong.

when you think about it - statistically people go though 7-10 major job changes in their life. I've done a few already....

I tend to look at the bottom line - and even bankrupt I have it better than MANY people I know and probally make more money then 95% of GFY. I have a nice house in Gimli, a resort town, new(ish) car, great furniture, 3 big screen tv' s- etc etc etc all legit in the bankruptcy.... LOL and I only got 6 more months till I'm free and clear. I have WAY more money then when i was a student.. and a better lifestyle, and all my RRSPs and other legally protected assets.

I could have probably retired when I divorced my wife had I hidden all my assets then - so this is the second time I've kinda lost it all. She got a boatload of cash and real estate and i took the biz.

I'm not the smartest guy but I learn. I'm not one to want to hang onto regrets. I don't think I made any major wrong moves online - it's the bar and real estate deal that sucked me dry. I still keep thinking I want to try again in the bar biz but I didn't like that biz so i'm moving away from it. Just don't like failing is all. In the future will I be more conservative - yes and no. I'll still take risks. I'm still technically single (living with someone) so I don't have kids to worry about yet - with that I'll probably protect more.


plus I'm working on something that I really think will go HUGE so that gives me hope

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SleazyDream

idiot

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corvette

good story scott, long time no talk

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Barefootsies

That's actually funny coming from you glass house tootsie.

I have watched you do it to many many people over the years before you were humbled. Guess that says a lot about you.

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Oh hell yeah new programs have a shot. I think it takes a true believer though. I think the thing is to have someone up front who truly knows that the product being offered can make some sales and loves talking about it.

Find someone with good communication skills, likes people and has a passion for the program (and not just the money) and you have a great combination to move forward with.

Find someone or do it yourself that can be involved with all aspects of site development and marketing for a smooth transition from billing companies, members and affiliates. That why my title is 'manager' and not just 'affiliate manager'. I love doing what I do and I think that has contributed to some of our programs success and I think anyone with the right attitude can do the same thing


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fuzebox

A program that has no in-house traffic? Probably no chance at all.

andrej_NDC

You can still make a shitload of money with the right niche and paysite. Luckily you won't have much competition nowadays, people still produce the same boring content, so anything fresh will do just great.

andrej_NDC

I just read this, after I already posted. I can just say

digitaldivas

sad and a bit melodramatic. nice to see gfy on a sunday night :P

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For sure there's a lot of space
a lot of young successful programs out there