Life after porn? How to start over...advice needed

[someguy11]

So I've been working in the industry for almost 8 years and am ready to bow out. The problem is getting a real job and having to submit a resume and what not. I'm obviously not rich enough to retire so I have to do something else. Has anyone successfully bowed out and if so can anyone give any advice etc?

Thanks,

Just some random guy.

[Iron Fist]

Selling your sites? Pics! Links!!

[cyber_ninja]

thats why you should use revshare sponsors,at least youll have an income wile you look for a job

[incredibleworkethic]

I work full time and work adult part to full time as well. I would never leave either job. One job is more fun and the other is more profitable. They balance each other out.

Now, it's cool to know you're in control and when you go to your other job you can focus on making money and how you're going to improve your own business.

Good luck if you're getting out completely, however I still think there is still money to be made here.

[someguy11]

yeah, i want to get out completely. i don't want to sit behind a computer anymore and just make money.... sounds strange right?

well, it hasn't been all that great for my mental and physical health working from home for the last 7-8 years....

it's kinda like those stories you hear about lotto winners... once they win the lottery their life starts to fall apart, but it's not so easy to say "stop sending me the free money every two weeks"

this is why i need a complete bow out...scary... yes, but i've thought about it and need to pull the trigger.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by IsItWorthJoining-com

there is still money to be made here.

[MrMaxwell]

Maybe you just need to add some new things to your life..
Instead of giving up what you know,
Because it sounds like you're "bowing out" due to feeling as if you are missing something because of working from home.. well.. you're not, if you don't put any more time into it than you would a regular job.

[Cyber Fucker]

Holy moly, sounds really bad... 7 years behind a computer and you got no money?

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster

Holy moly, sounds really bad... 7 years behind a computer and you got no money?

Where did he say that?

[jact]

A few years ago I was audited by Rev Canada. The auditor recommended I get "a real job" to avoid these types of things in the future.

So I went and got a job as a department head at a major computer manufacturer. I spent 6 months and 3 days there, I simply could not adjust to corporate culture. I excelled at the job but found my mental state suffering. I had over 130 people under me, all of which lived with mom and dad, or with their spouses mom and dad and were all talking about saving up for 6 months to buy a $2000 car...

I couldn't relate to them, to their lifestyles, to their social structures. When Minte had picked up his Lambo, I had mentioned it to a few guys at work. They looked at me like I'd grown a second head. How could I know someone who could afford a Lambo?

Before I left, I held a company BBQ for a bunch of my employees. In retrospect probably not a good idea. My home while moderate and conservative to the porn community was very lavish and extravagant to them. This created a larger rift between my staff and I.

It's tough, be prepared.

[DaddyHalbucks]

10 Recession-Proof Jobs
Rachel Zupek, CareerBuilder.com writer


It's safe to say that the current job market is in the pits.

Since the recession began in December 2007, 4.4 million jobs have been lost; more than half of that decline occurred between November 2008 and February 2009, according to the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.* Additionally, there are 12.5 million unemployed people and the unemployment rate was 8.1 percent in February 2009. Also in that month, employment declined in nearly all major industries.

The only industry to add jobs in February was health care, with a gain of 27,000 jobs. Job growth occurred in ambulatory health care and in hospitals, adding 16,000 and 7,000 jobs, respectively, according to the BLS.

While there doesn't seem to be much certainty about the economy, there is one fact that remains true no matter what: Certain industries are recession-resistant.

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If you're looking for a new job, focus your efforts on the following areas and you might increase your odds of landing a great position.

1. Registered nurse
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Growth through 2016: 18 percent
Salary: $41,549

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Growth through 2016: 13 percent
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6. Pharmacy technician
Resistant reason: As the population ages, people probably will need more medication, as do the many people suffering from depression and anxiety as a result of the recession. Plus, many people have health-care coverage of some kind, even with the downturn, which makes it possible for people to continue to pay for medications.
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Salary: $87,383

8. Environmental science technician
Resistant reason: The Obama administration plans to create 5 million "green" jobs over the next 10 years. Despite a slowing economy, a large percentage of the U.S. work force continues to dedicate itself to the environment.
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Growth through 2016: 28 percent
Salary: $36,655

9. Network systems and data communications analyst
Resistant reason: Many technology-based positions can be performed by outsourcing, but certain technology workers, such as network systems and data communications analysts, must deal with problems onsite.
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Growth through 2016: 53.4 percent
Salary: $40,827 and $71,637, respectively

10. Fast-food worker
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Training needed: No previous training is needed for this position; on-the-job training is provided.
Growth through 2016: 17 percent
Salary: $16,568

*Most recent BLS statistics released on March 6, 2009.

**U.S. national average annual salary according to CBSalary.com

Rachel Zupek is a writer and blogger for CareerBuilder.com. She researches and writes about job search strategy, career management, hiring trends and workplace issues.

http://www.careerbuilder.com/Article...ion_proof_jobs

[BVF]

Originally Posted by someguy11

yeah, i want to get out completely. i don't want to sit behind a computer anymore and just make money.... sounds strange right? .

Go get a gym membership and workout everyday.....I workout 6 days a week.....When you exercise, it's easier to sit around for the rest of the day.

[Cyber Fucker]

Originally Posted by BVF

Go get a gym membership and workout everyday.....I workout 6 days a week.....When you exercise, it's easier to sit around for the rest of the day.

I totally agree with that, it works for me too

[eddieinaz]

I can give guitar lessons for $40 to $60 bucks per hour because I have talented skills outside of PORN.

I do not think that $40-$60 per hour is not bad at all.
The best great part about it is that thousands and thousands of kids and people want to learn how to play the best instrument known to mankind!

I am saying this to get your wheels turning. What other skills outside of porn do you have????

Originally Posted by someguy11

yeah, i want to get out completely. i don't want to sit behind a computer anymore and just make money.... sounds strange right?

well, it hasn't been all that great for my mental and physical health working from home for the last 7-8 years....

I agree, I'm in the same boat, workingonline since 2001 and it gets lonely working from home, and can't network with anyone local because the local business people are doing mainstream.

Just lie on your resume and say you've been promoting mainstream dating websites. Affiliate programs for eharmony and match.com, Amazon store, etc.
Noone is going to know.

However in my own situation I started working in mainstream and I couldnt stand the retards in mainstream, so i turned around and went back into adult again. lol

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by someguy11

yeah, i want to get out completely. i don't want to sit behind a computer anymore and just make money.... sounds strange right?

well, it hasn't been all that great for my mental and physical health working from home for the last 7-8 years....

it's kinda like those stories you hear about lotto winners... once they win the lottery their life starts to fall apart, but it's not so easy to say "stop sending me the free money every two weeks"

this is why i need a complete bow out...scary... yes, but i've thought about it and need to pull the trigger.

I feel ya 100%
Duke

[FrozenJag]

You have anything for sale?

I agree with above though, go to the gym, find a girlfriend, get outta the house and go hiking or something. Have some fun!

Then you will realize how lucky you are to be able to actually do those things instead of being stuck at work.

[sobaka]

If you are mainly tired of sitting in front of keyboard, I would not recommend any type of cubicle monkey type job. I have no ideas how people deal with getting up with alarm, being in traffic for 1.5 hours a day, dealing with retarded boss, retarded co-workers, corporate meetings, all these office politics and BS. I would rather live in the back of my SUV than have an "office job".

You could do remodeling jobs. You can learn bathroom/kitchen remodeling by working with someone for a few months, then set up a few targeted sites and SEO-optimize them to start getting some business. Most business will come from leads from existing jobs though. If you are good, reliable, and honest, you will be busy soon.

[plsureking]

what is this hit and run bullshit?
why waste time writing meaningful replies.
the guy has 16 posts in 6 years.
probably wont be back to read this.

did he even make a mark/difference IN the industry?
he should have left years ago..

[Agent 488]

it does suck sitting in front of the computer after awhile unless you are some kind of mutant, and the real work world is filled with half-wit's that make gfy look like a mensa meeting, so i dunno ... if you find the right balance keep us posted.

[Agent 488]

oh shut it.

Originally Posted by plsureking

what is this hit and run bullshit?
why waste time writing meaningful replies.
the guy has 16 posts in 6 years.
probably wont be back to read this.

did he even make a mark/difference IN the industry?
he should have left years ago..

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

oh shut it.

yur mom.

[cosis]

sit in front of a computer for yourself or someone else

[cosis]

This is the best fucking job ever

[Shoplifter]

Originally Posted by jact

I had over 130 people under me, all of which lived with mom and dad, or with their spouses mom and dad and were all talking about saving up for 6 months to buy a $2000 car...

I completely sympathize with this. It's a real shock to get out in the world and try to communicate with people who can't afford to eat meat etc. And in Canada that is nearly everyone.

In general people in Canada seem so poor. The last time I was in Vancouver it seemed everyone was shabbily dressed and struggling. Everything they did own was actually owned by the bank in one form or another.

I would think real real hard before going out in the world and working for peanuts like everyone else. To the original poster: It just sounds like you need a little time in Bangkok to get yourself together.

[someguy11]

Originally Posted by plsureking

what is this hit and run bullshit?
why waste time writing meaningful replies.
the guy has 16 posts in 6 years.
probably wont be back to read this.

did he even make a mark/difference IN the industry?
he should have left years ago..

relax, i went to bed early last night.

[someguy11]

thanks for all the responses. it feels nice to know that i'm not the only one who has some of these same issues.

as for the money, yeah i've saved a good amount, no where near enough to retire, but enough to be young and waaaaaaay ahead of all my friends. with that being said, i was never at a place in the industry that i could buy a lambo etc.

it's scary as hell, and i don't think i want another "desk job" so we'll see....

i got into this specifically for the money, i'm a humble guy who has a humble house and am not flashy. i always had a few moral issues with it and have wanted out for a long time, but as many of you know it's not so simple.

it's also not so simple being 30 yo and having a ton of more money than your peers. if all you friends are ballin great, but if most aren't....eh, it gets lonely at the top.

long story short....i've been slacking a bit and haven't been making as much money so i can get used to a very much more "humble" lifestyle.

scared yes, will i survive...yes.

thanks again for all the thoughts/opinions.

[MaDalton]

i wish i had your problems, lol

[camperjohn64]

Google adsense pays! 1 cent per visitor. Get a website that has 10000 visitors a day and make $3000 a month. THEN go get a job on top of that...

[Jim_Gunn]

I don't understand this guy's problem at all. He is making money still in the online porn biz in 2009, so he knows what he is doing. Why quit a business that makes you a comfortable lifestyle to go get a "real" job? Get your ass to the gym or get some exercise every day, build a network of friends who you can do some offline activities so that you aren't sitting in front of a computer all day, and keep your porn sites and revenue going. Maybe start an offline mainstream business of your own if that makes you happy, but keep your porn income as well while you do it.

[Mutt]

i think many people in this industry think about getting out for the same reasons you are - just had a conversation yesterday with somebody about it. some people make too much money in porn to leave, even though they want to - when people want to sell out nobody is willing or able to pay a reasonable fair price. certainly the vast majority of people both big and small can't make the same money out of porn as they do in. i think we all know the stories of big players in porn who went mainstream and failed - there are some exceptions.

if you're working on your own and not networking with others, not going to tradeshows it's a very socially isolating job. and health wise, very sedentary. but those two issues can be solved if you have the will, just because you have a home based sedentary career doesn't mean you are shackled like a prisoner - you can get out and do whatever you want, meet new people, get some exercise.

moral issues - can't help there. everybody comes to porn with different backgrounds that shape their attitudes about the morality of porn.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by jact

A few years ago I was audited by Rev Canada. The auditor recommended I get "a real job" to avoid these types of things in the future.

i don't understand, was he threatening you that the reason you were audited and might be again is that you are in the adult industry? or CRA had problems with how you run your home based business and reported income and expenses or the way you are employed by an American company?

[purecharlie]

Is there a life after porn then?

[Herb Kornfield]

Get an office outside of your home for your biz. Works wonders for changing the pace.

[klinton]

good luck man, i'm in similar situation; at least i will have 2 jobs...

so far i'm going for some long trip...

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

It's a real shock to get out in the world and try to communicate with people who can't afford to eat meat etc. And in Canada that is nearly everyone.

In general people in Canada seem so poor. The last time I was in Vancouver it seemed everyone was shabbily dressed and struggling. Everything they did own was actually owned by the bank in one form or another.

so fucking true, i wasted 4yrs up in canada freezing and living like a peasant. shit is just so hard to come by there. whether you need a component for your computer, a car, a damn credit card, or just somewhere to lay you're head at night, resources are scarce. imagine going to a grocery store that is 10 times smaller than what you are used to. and freezing your nuts off as soon as you open the door.... shit after the gas in my tank froze last winter that was the last straw.

and dude i feel your need to go and work in the "real world" but that shit ain't no joke either. from time to time i juggle little gigs when money is tight bcuz im still shooting scenes before my shit launches, and i've had some shitty, stupid, downright dangerous jobs. and half of them did not pay me a dime and the other half damn near got me fucking killed. if you think webmaster life is hard, try living through some of my shit ass jobs. you will embrace that keyboard and kiss that mofo everytime you wakeup, when you think about the alternative... which lifestyle better suits you.......

THIS....


or

THIS....


choose wisely

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

I completely sympathize with this. It's a real shock to get out in the world and try to communicate with people who can't afford to eat meat etc. And in Canada that is nearly everyone.

In general people in Canada seem so poor. The last time I was in Vancouver it seemed everyone was shabbily dressed and struggling. Everything they did own was actually owned by the bank in one form or another.

I would think real real hard before going out in the world and working for peanuts like everyone else. To the original poster: It just sounds like you need a little time in Bangkok to get yourself together.

I don't know where in Canada you were but here in Ottawa almost everyone is driving bmw's and mercedes.

[mainkey]

Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield

Get an office outside of your home for your biz. Works wonders for changing the pace.

Yeah this helped to me...

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by jact

A few years ago I was audited by Rev Canada. The auditor recommended I get "a real job" to avoid these types of things in the future.

So I went and got a job as a department head at a major computer manufacturer. I spent 6 months and 3 days there, I simply could not adjust to corporate culture. I excelled at the job but found my mental state suffering. I had over 130 people under me, all of which lived with mom and dad, or with their spouses mom and dad and were all talking about saving up for 6 months to buy a $2000 car...

I couldn't relate to them, to their lifestyles, to their social structures. When Minte had picked up his Lambo, I had mentioned it to a few guys at work. They looked at me like I'd grown a second head. How could I know someone who could afford a Lambo?

Before I left, I held a company BBQ for a bunch of my employees. In retrospect probably not a good idea. My home while moderate and conservative to the porn community was very lavish and extravagant to them. This created a larger rift between my staff and I.

It's tough, be prepared.

It's interesting that you bring this up because I have been dealing with something similar in a social club (swingers) my wife and I are involved with. Recently I discovered that I had a group of haters growing and that a group of them had plotted to get me thrown out of the club (because I run porn sites... uhhh wut?). It was a complete shock to me because they were being cool to my face and talking shit behind my back. I have never fit into the corporate world...

[jact]

Originally Posted by nation-x

It's interesting that you bring this up because I have been dealing with something similar in a social club (swingers) my wife and I are involved with. Recently I discovered that I had a group of haters growing and that a group of them had plotted to get me thrown out of the club (because I run porn sites... uhhh wut?). It was a complete shock to me because they were being cool to my face and talking shit behind my back. I have never fit into the corporate world...

My wife and I were shunned from every swingers club in Toronto because we're in porn, yet the same people who shunned us would all be intently watching it on the screens at the club. People suck.

[jact]

Originally Posted by Mutt

i don't understand, was he threatening you that the reason you were audited and might be again is that you are in the adult industry? or CRA had problems with how you run your home based business and reported income and expenses or the way you are employed by an American company?

The way it was explained to me, until the CRA fully understands the new breeds of internet businesses, they're going to audit, audit, audit.

Edit: FYI, there was only one adjustment on my return for the audited period, I owed $253 as a result.

[Shoplifter]

Originally Posted by nation-x

It's interesting that you bring this up because I have been dealing with something similar in a social club (swingers) my wife and I are involved with. Recently I discovered that I had a group of haters growing and that a group of them had plotted to get me thrown out of the club (because I run porn sites... uhhh wut?). It was a complete shock to me because they were being cool to my face and talking shit behind my back. I have never fit into the corporate world...

It's a colossal mistake in my opinion to be public with your involvement with the adult business. There is a huge amount of prejudice against it in our society. And those who are not prejudiced for moral reasons, will have issues with you making what they see as easy money. There are a million ways for people to shake you down over this.

Even my closest friends and family think I'm a "Stock Trader" lol.

[Davy]

Originally Posted by someguy11

So I've been working in the industry for almost 8 years and am ready to bow out. The problem is getting a real job and having to submit a resume and what not. I'm obviously not rich enough to retire so I have to do something else. Has anyone successfully bowed out and if so can anyone give any advice etc?

Unfortunately, it will be EXTREMELY hard for you to explain your future employer what you did the last years. Depends on what you were doing all those years, of course.
But if you just sat at home as an affiliate, the last 8 years will be a blank spot in your CV.

It's always a good idea to have a mainstream biz on the side, just in case the porn biz does not work out.

[Tjeezers]

I wanted a life after porn. Just read to much the saying " dont putt all your eggs in one basket " ... So I bought a farm with animals and 8000M2 of gardens. I am slowly making my own eggs. Did cost a little fortune, but by being in the adult working ( to ) hard I could slowly build a second life.

I always pushed Life time Revenue Sponsors, and they are growing, so there is no stopping for me, I had to adapt and go this way, share a new life with my webmaster life.

[TheLegacy]

My advice is don't leave until you have a secure job.

A lot of employers would appreciate that you want to leave the industry and would see your skills as good for their company no matter where you learned it. Go to a job bank or start asking friends - if not - then write your resume up with the technical aspects of your job rather than the details of what it was for. If someone questions that - just say that when you were sourcing out jobs these were the only one's at the time who would hire and you needed the money. Sure they would understand - but keep in mind - even crack whores - strippers and pornstars have gotten jobs in the mainstream world and moved on, sure you can too.

[woj]

I'm guessing we'll see more and more threads like these in the future... easy $$ is long gone, more and more people will be bailing out...

[Meteoseek]

Originally Posted by someguy11

So I've been working in the industry for almost 8 years and am ready to bow out. The problem is getting a real job and having to submit a resume and what not. I'm obviously not rich enough to retire so I have to do something else. Has anyone successfully bowed out and if so can anyone give any advice etc?

Thanks,

Just some random guy.

For me it looks like you need to change your lifestyle, not job... I think many webmasters have similar problems like you.

You wrote that your are 'some random guy', 'humble'... Show more love for yourself... You made money, spend a little. Buy a good car, etc. If you are tired working from home rent an office outside. Exercising daily = better physical condition = better mental health. Don't be so humble and don't live isolated life.

[jact]

Originally Posted by woj

I'm guessing we'll see more and more threads like these in the future... easy $$ is long gone, more and more people will be bailing out...

Partially because they don't want to work for it, and partially because they can't stomach what lows the industry is stooping to in order to bring in revenue. I've thought long and hard about leaving for the latter reason. It makes me physically ill to think how low we've sunk as an industry.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by camperjohn64

Google adsense pays! 1 cent per visitor. Get a website that has 10000 visitors a day and make $3000 a month. THEN go get a job on top of that...

I would kill for that! Seriously, I think I'd work for the mob LOL

I wonder how to get into google adsense, I never gave it much thought


spaz

[shimmy2]

and remember your resume will be blank if u start now. tell them at the interview you got your checks from nevis, cyprus, and st kitts and they will wonder why you are even applying for work there