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fris · 10-15-2009, 08:37 PM

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Google PageRank, which has caused its fair share of excitement, disappointment, worry and FUD over the years, finally seems to be on its way out.

Although Google has been telling people not to treat its public PR scores as an all-important metric for some time, the statistic has now been dropped from the Webmaster Tools.

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Google employee Susan Moskwa says:

We?ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn?t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it?s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it

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PageRank is still displayed on the Google toolbar, so it?s perhaps not a completely redundant measure just yet, but it certainly shouldn?t hold any real weight for those serious about SEO and the health of their web site.

link --> http://www.blogherald.com/2009/10/15...ns-on-toolbar/

digitaldivas · 10-15-2009, 08:41 PM

...it's pretty true. thanks for sharing

Basic_man · 10-15-2009, 08:45 PM

SIG SPOT! Link seller will go bankrupt!!! Mouhahaha

~Ray · 10-15-2009, 08:50 PM

Many people here need to read this thread. Lots of "SEO" experts here live and breathe pagrank.

~Ray

woj · 10-15-2009, 08:51 PM

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CYF · 10-15-2009, 09:01 PM

interesting turn of events. I never really placed much weight on pagerank myself.

Fob · 10-15-2009, 10:30 PM

dang, now that toolbar is useless...

epitome · 10-15-2009, 10:33 PM

I've always put more effort into building relevant links in than PR.

Jdoughs · 10-15-2009, 10:34 PM

"never believe shit Google tells you"

Oh wait, except now, now believe it.

alias · 10-15-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fob

dang, now that toolbar is useless...

bDok · 10-15-2009, 10:46 PM

oh but how now am I suppose to sell pr 4 links in bulk to n00bs?!?!

Jdoughs · 10-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok

oh but how now am I suppose to sell pr 4 links in bulk to n00bs?!?!

Don't worry, nothing has changed. All that articles says is that its been removed from google webmaster tools where it lists your sites highest PR pages.

Iron Fist · 10-15-2009, 11:06 PM

I've had my PR 3 sites go to PR 0 and back to PR 2 with no loss of traffic, or any change in keywords...

Pagerank is retarded and the people who preach it are retarded as well.

flip.green · 10-15-2009, 11:15 PM

I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

Iron Fist · 10-15-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flip.green

I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

Jdoughs · 10-15-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flip.green

I stopped paying attention once they capped the PR of porn sites

No such thing exists.

aniloscash · 10-15-2009, 11:24 PM

I'm offering a discount on my pr5 domain if anyone wants to buy it

LeRoy · 10-15-2009, 11:27 PM

Yah I dumped my Google tool bar early this year

Iron Fist · 10-15-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

No such thing exists.

Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists.

Jdoughs · 10-15-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists.

pr3, pr4, pr8

So which one is it?

I never said there was a PR8 porn site, what I said is that there is no 'cap' on Page Rank for adult sites as you so 'matter of factly' stated.

sex69 · 10-15-2009, 11:43 PM

I agree that there is a cap on porn sites. I think they needed it in some algos

TheDA · 10-16-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

Well I can tell you it's not 4 and it's not 3.

martinsc · 10-16-2009, 01:38 AM

Davy · 10-16-2009, 03:06 AM

Pagerank always sucked.
I have a forum and most forum's will have more outgoing than incoming links.
So I have thousands of pages indexed, and nice traffic. But google still says it's a pagerank 2.
Pagerank is only nice-to-have if you are selling something, like hardlinks.

seeandsee · 10-16-2009, 03:14 AM

PR is not sending traffic

Si · 10-16-2009, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah this is true as well... the cap is pr4 or pr3.. I can't remember which it is.. not that I really care anyways.

It's 5

But doesn't matter a whole lot anyway

I stopped caring about pagerank when the tables turned on PR to traffic ratio (if that makes sense)

When I first started building sites, the one's with higher PR had Higher traffic, now it seems pretty much round the other way with a few excemptions.

Haven't checked my Pageranks for ages.........

Sarah_Jayne · 10-16-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fob

dang, now that toolbar is useless...

Pretty much true..more or less the only reason I have it installed.

alias · 10-16-2009, 04:15 AM

Do not see many pr5 adult sites around. I had a pr4 but it dropped down, meh.

nikad · 10-16-2009, 04:17 AM

Links are not just for PR, I think that is secondary, links are for relevancy and link popularity... if you have good content, and a popular site with good links, you might become more and more authoritative in G terms, so you will get better serps and consequently more traffic and $ ( this in response to the " linksellers are dead now " )

Si · 10-16-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nikad

Links are not just for PR, I think that is secondary, links are for relevancy and link popularity... if you have good content, and a popular site with good links, you might become more and more authoritative in G terms, so you will get better serps and consequently more traffic and $ ( this in response to the " linksellers are dead now " )

BlackCrayon · 10-16-2009, 05:37 AM

it does serve some use. i use it daily. i hope they don't do away with it.

Nicky · 10-16-2009, 05:44 AM

I don't put that much weight Into It.

mopek1 · 10-16-2009, 06:05 AM

So if you buy a backlink and the PR is 0 or the toolbar is grayed-out does that mean the link is still good? Will google recognize that link coming into your site?

nikad · 10-16-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

So if you buy a backlink and the PR is 0 or the toolbar is grayed-out does that mean the link is still good? Will google recognize that link coming into your site?

I believe that link would still be good. Think of what would happen in real life ( without any SEO working for a site, buying or getting links etc ) you could not prevent people with small, or new sites from linking to you ( how could you? ) Imho having a % of pr0 links is healthy and makes the site look natural. G hates patterns and I think their algo is not a simple 100 pr4, 2000 pr2, 10000 pr1 ;) What gives a site authority is a combination of things.

I would watch for banned sites, etc, but shouldn´t be ultra strict about it either, to preserver the " natural " appearance of the site. Also when buying links one has to be able to poderate the potential, if it is a pr0 with lots of potential, I would pay good money for it, if it is just a flat pr0 no traffic, etc then it would be a different price and so on.

That is why it gets difficult to price links individually, you have to consider traffic, age, link pop, serp, pr, and am sure other things too.

nico-t · 10-16-2009, 06:39 AM

google says it doesnt mean anything but they dont completely remove it and its still the case that the biggest sites have the highest pr and the smallest the lowest.... how is that for 'it doesnt mean anything'? Funny.

Pleasurepays · 10-16-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Show me a PR8 porn site. Seriously... because no such thing exists.

naughty.com is a pr7

you guys are all lunatics... and seem to have no idea what pagerank even is, what it measures, how its used or why it will always be important.

~Ray · 10-16-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

naughty.com is a pr7

you guys are all lunatics... and seem to have no idea what pagerank even is, what it measures, how its used or why it will always be important.

most of us spend our time getting search engine ranks rather than getting hung-up on pagerank.

~Ray

CyberHustler · 10-16-2009, 11:03 AM

Agent 488 · 10-16-2009, 12:06 PM

they haven't updated page rank for along time. i think they might be killing it.

Agent 488 · 10-16-2009, 12:09 PM

i mean public displays of it. page rank will always be the basis of their algo. of course those who fail at google always say different as well as mainstream seo hucksters.

Pleasurepays · 10-16-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Ray

most of us spend our time getting search engine ranks rather than getting hung-up on pagerank.

~Ray

you are absolutely the last person in this industry that should be commenting on search engines or SEO or the value of a link.

~Ray · 10-16-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you are absolutely the last person in this industry that should be commenting on search engines or SEO or the value of a link.

That's why I showed you 64 results in Google that you totally ignored to give yourself some sort of validation.

I told you then, and I'll say it again. There are several ways to acheave good SEO reults...and my way is one of them

~Ray

~Ray · 10-16-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you are absolutely the last person in this industry that should be commenting on search engines or SEO or the value of a link.

p.s. and after I showed you my seo results, you still say that I don't know anything about seo? Where do you get that from? Do search engine results not matter to you? If not, what do you call SEO? Getting sites with pagerank to link to you and hope for results? I do it different than you and still have good results. So there must be more ways to SEO than just what you know. Just because you didn't buy a link package from me doesn't mean you have to lie and try to harm my link business. You saw my results and so did a dozen others. Sad that you turned out to be a lying cunt.

~Ray

Agent 488 · 10-16-2009, 01:52 PM

anyone can rank for "red pubic hair on a gloryhole toilet seat in atherns georgia."

Jdoughs · 10-16-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

anyone can rank for "red pubic hair on a gloryhole toilet seat in atherns georgia."

Im 1/14 (.24 clicks a day) for "blonde pubic hair on a gloryhole toilet seat in atherns georgia"

I bet the red term kills it too.

Pleasurepays · 10-16-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Ray

That's why I showed you 64 results in Google that you totally ignored to give yourself some sort of validation.

I told you then, and I'll say it again. There are several ways to acheave good SEO reults...and my way is one of them

~Ray

you've been at it for years and your "good results" total less than 7000 hits a day across your primary sites and net you almost zero income. that's because you understand very little about how search engines work ... and quite frankly, you seem to be delusional/insane.

if "your way" was a way to achieve "good SEO results" then you would be sitting back with 500k - 1- 2 - 3 million uniques a day and selling link packages that were netting you 6-7 figures annually likes others do. you would have the same 6 people buying up everything you to offer had rather than relying on clueless noobs to toss you a few dollars for something that makes zero sense and has zero value.

beemk · 10-16-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

naughty.com is a pr7

you guys are all lunatics... and seem to have no idea what pagerank even is, what it measures, how its used or why it will always be important.

they are right though, pagerank is useless to people who dont know what it means. they are just proving themselves to be idiots who know nothing about seo. if you use it to get killer google spots without any work of course its useless, if you have half of a clue and use it to get a ballpark idea of how good of linking power a site has, you will love it.

digifan · 10-16-2009, 02:14 PM

PR is grayed out in the google toolbar to, just saw it now reading this.. oh.

~Ray · 10-16-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you've been at it for years and your "good results" total less than 7000 hits a day across your primary sites and net you almost zero income. that's because you understand very little about how search engines work ... and quite frankly, you seem to be delusional/insane.

if "your way" was a way to achieve "good SEO results" then you would be sitting back with 500k - 1- 2 - 3 million uniques a day and selling link packages that were netting you 6-7 figures annually likes others do. you would have the same 6 people buying up everything you to offer had rather than relying on clueless noobs to toss you a few dollars for something that makes zero sense and has zero value.

It's not my fault you are outdated. You have probably relied on work you did years ago, and simply have lost touch. IT DOES NOT TAKE LINKS FROM SITES WITH PAGERANK TO GET GOOD SEO RESULTS.

Also, the results I showed you are all NICHE sites. Not a million people a day looking for "crossdressing movies".

As far as profiting, I told you that I built that network (in June) to sell backlinks on. That's why the sites only had one banner and one dating ad. That's why they don't make many sales. The new owner can do what he wants with the niche traffic thay have.

Your selective amnesia makes you seem childish, and at your age, that is very unprofessional.

~Ray

Barefootsies · 10-16-2009, 02:21 PM

Interesting read.

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