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adendreams · 11-23-2009, 12:11 AM

bump

CunningStunt · 11-23-2009, 01:28 AM

Fiddy cheap ass programmers.

The best programmer I've ever worked with and still do, costs $150 ph. Worth every penny too.

Raf1 · 11-23-2009, 02:05 AM

$9 in India isn't bad and if he does the work well, then good for him.

adendreams · 11-23-2009, 11:42 AM

thanks GFY!

Varius · 11-23-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I know several of the bigger guys in this biz who outsource their programming to India and the Phillipines and keep the guys on staff for $500 a month. Their are some of the best programmers in the world in India for instance. And $9 an hour is good money for them. I know the American programmers on here are going to take offense to that statement...but just ask some of the people who run big affiliate programs and you'll find out that they are not paying big prices...they outsource it and get the best programmers in the world for relatively little money.

When I used to freelance, I got a LOT of offers of work to fix stuff done improperly by outsourced labor. Just because a particular client thinks they are awesome, does not actually make it true.

I think a lot of people are mislead by outsourced companies or workers, but don't actually know better.

For example, say you require a specific task to be done. You are not a programmer/technical yourself, so you don't actually know what's involved in getting it done. An outsourcing firm quotes you two weeks and three hundred bucks. That sounds good to you, so you go forward with it.

Let's say they DO actually deliver a working product by their deadline and to your specs (many don't). You are happy and think they are an awesome company and use them for future work.

Now let's say someone more technical/experienced analyzed the same task and deduced it would take 4 hours, not two weeks. They would charge you five hundred dollars (say they charge $125/hour).

The first thing to figure out is, if you have this product almost two weeks earlier, what is that worth to you ? If it's worth more than two hundred bucks, using this example, then you lost money.

The other thing, is a lot of outsourced work doesn't follow things like standardization, modularity or scalability. They know clients will usually just take a look at the "front end" of the product and see if it works, or doesn't. Little do those clients know that when they grow to a certain level, the whole product will fall apart. Or, if they wish to add in new features or have other people work on the code, it'll cost them many lost hours in the new worker deciphering the mess of code they made. Especially in languages like PHP, there are thousands of ways to do something to "make it work". Very few coders I've come across actually code something while thinking ahead.

Anyhow, before I continue rambling on, the point I was trying to make is when hearing reviews by non-technical people (such as many company owners), just because they think a company is awesome doesn't make it so

As to outsourcing and particular countries/labor, you can find great programmers in every country of the world (except Costa Rica

) and you can find bad programmers in every country of the world. So by no means is a North American or more expensive programmer better than a cheap Indian/Filipino - you should consider each on a case by case basis.

However, if someone is very cheap and high quality, you shouldn't expect they will be available for very long at all. If they are, something just doesn't add up

Robbie · 11-23-2009, 03:03 PM

Great points Varius. I keep my programmer on salary and have had him for over 10 years. But if something were to happen to him...then I would definitely seek out a programmer whom I could TRUST. That's the main issue for me.

So no, I would never hire a company to do a programming task for me. Instead I would talk with several programmers, and judging from the expertise of the Indians in todays technology, I would probably end up with one of those guys. But I would have to fly over there and meet face to face and get to know him somewhat. It's very risky to me to let anybody on my servers. The people who work for me are like family and we've all worked together since the 1990's. So if anything ever happens to any of them, I'm gonna be worried to death about trusting someone new.

cyco_cc · 11-23-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

actually you dont have to pay more to get the best in the programming biz.. one of my most talented guy who coded apps/backend for all my shit is some russian dude and average price i pay him is around $15/hr.. he has a phd in math/programming and he is a wiz..

I doubt he has a PhD in "programming", probably computer science which isn't much more than just a branch of applied mathematics...

Matt 26z · 11-23-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

Yes its real - hes in India but he kicks serious ass over every american programmer I have ever hired - and he does Word Press customization too

Indian workers are a huge risk. Congrats on getting lucky with this one.

PenisFace · 11-23-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

I know you are just trying to help the guy, but you are shooting yourself in the foot... if he is as good as you claim, it will take no time for some company to hire him full time, then all of a sudden he won't have time to do work for your any more...

I would love to have sex with you right now, woj.

cyco_cc · 11-23-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

just ask some of the people who run big affiliate programs and you'll find out that they are not paying big prices...they outsource it and get the best programmers in the world for relatively little money.

From my experience, they're not getting the best programmers in the world, not by a long shot. However, they're getting cheap labor which can get the job done. My day job is software development (I started adult part time recently) and of the 3 decent sized projects that we outsourced parts to India and the Philippines, none were a success. And from a critical code reviewer, the returned product from them was absolute shit in terms of long term development. The code worked but they didn't use best practices, lots of code was redundant, little to no documentation, and the list goes on. It was something I would expect from an entry level developer, not someone with "10 years experience, MCSD, etc."

Then again, I'm sure most people's perspective here is "it cost me $9/hour and it works perfect!". Then, that leads them to conclude they are the best programmers in the world because they did it so cheap and it works flawlessly--for now. A good programmer can build a system that can be adapted (not hacked to work).

I am incredibly biased though and I was dead against outsourcing it in the beginning but management had their way. From your other post, you're dead on, it comes to trust. Find a developer you can trust and is cost effective, and that might as well be one of the best programmers in the world.

Sharky · 11-23-2009, 03:54 PM

Adendreams. I sent you an icq. add me. I have an affiliate who needs a simple script created.

Varius · 11-23-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cyco_cc

From my experience, they're not getting the best programmers in the world, not by a long shot. However, they're getting cheap labor which can get the job done. My day job is software development (I started adult part time recently) and of the 3 decent sized projects that we outsourced parts to India and the Philippines, none were a success. And from a critical code reviewer, the returned product from them was absolute shit in terms of long term development. The code worked but they didn't use best practices, lots of code was redundant, little to no documentation, and the list goes on. It was something I would expect from an entry level developer, not someone with "10 years experience, MCSD, etc."

Then again, I'm sure most people's perspective here is "it cost me $9/hour and it works perfect!". Then, that leads them to conclude they are the best programmers in the world because they did it so cheap and it works flawlessly--for now. A good programmer can build a system that can be adapted (not hacked to work).

I am incredibly biased though and I was dead against outsourcing it in the beginning but management had their way. From your other post, you're dead on, it comes to trust. Find a developer you can trust and is cost effective, and that might as well be one of the best programmers in the world.

You know, it would have saved you some typing to just quote what I said

rock-reed · 11-23-2009, 04:48 PM

Good, reliable programmers are hard to find.
If this thread is correct, you will get a lot of work, my friend.

GOOD LUCK!

adendreams · 11-23-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rock-reed

Good, reliable programmers are hard to find.
If this thread is correct, you will get a lot of work, my friend.

GOOD LUCK!

thanks rock-reed

CYF · 11-23-2009, 09:55 PM

anyone else have a reference for this guy?

adendreams do you have anything I can look at? php code maybe?

drriley · 11-23-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

This guy rocks - reliable, honest, doesnt run the clock or over charge.. If anything it seems like he always UNDER charges me - I have worked with him for 5 years and trust him with any server no matter how sensitive or important the material. Aden Dreams is the shit!

http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/937801-cms-programming-services.html

I've contracted out two projects to him to start with -- and we'll see how it goes before I decide whether to use him to redevelop my entire portfolio of sites. Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach him/no response for the past couple of days, so I may have gotten to him too late ... and perhaps he is now overwhelmed with work, which would not be good news for me.

I'm still hopeful that things will go well. From my earlier conversations with him online he is very pleasant and polite. Then again, I find most Indian's whom I have met online or in person to be very friendly. Of course, a friendly demeanour alone does not a functional web site make. I'll report back on my experience.

cam_girls · 11-23-2009, 11:37 PM

I have a small job, maybe 2 - 3 hours coding, hit me up if you're available [email protected]

adendreams · 11-24-2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drriley

I've contracted out two projects to him to start with -- and we'll see how it goes before I decide whether to use him to redevelop my entire portfolio of sites. Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach him/no response for the past couple of days, so I may have gotten to him too late ... and perhaps he is now overwhelmed with work, which would not be good news for me.

I'm still hopeful that things will go well. From my earlier conversations with him online he is very pleasant and polite. Then again, I find most Indian's whom I have met online or in person to be very friendly. Of course, a friendly demeanour alone does not a functional web site make. I'll report back on my experience.

Thanks for you reply Robert

adendreams · 11-24-2009, 12:31 PM

bump

brassmonkey · 11-24-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Indian workers are a huge risk. Congrats on getting lucky with this one.

yeah live and learn

adendreams · 11-26-2009, 03:33 PM

thanks GFY for the bug fixes but anyone need hit me up

drriley · 12-12-2009, 09:58 AM

We are now several weeks past my last post where I said that I would report back on my experience. Although very pleasant, it has nevertheless become necessary for me to end my business dealings with this designer and look for design services elsewhere.

I have waited for weeks with no response other than an email about personal problems being encountered that was preventing my work from being completed. The last email assured me that one of my sites would be complete 5 days ago, and I have not heard any further response, nor is the site completed.

Had I wired money (a deposit) via Western Union, Paypal or Epassporte to India, I would be out the money, plain and simple. In this case I wanted to test the designers ability by getting one very small project completed first, at which point I would pay and proceed to contract out larger projects.

I do still need to find a balance between contracting out to cheap foreign labour and the often grossly inflated prices charged by many North American based designers. I am not prepared to pay hundreds of dollars for what amounts to only a couple of hours work -- as I have done on one occasion in the past when the designer simply took one of my existing sites and made some cosmetic changes to it, and billed me $200 for an hour or two of work that I could have done myself if my idea of re-designing my site consisted only of changing some colours and a bit of the layout.

Again, this guy from Aden Design is very nice, but nice doesn't cut it when work needs to get done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drriley

I've contracted out two projects to him to start with -- and we'll see how it goes before I decide whether to use him to redevelop my entire portfolio of sites. Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach him/no response for the past couple of days, so I may have gotten to him too late ... and perhaps he is now overwhelmed with work, which would not be good news for me.

I'm still hopeful that things will go well. From my earlier conversations with him online he is very pleasant and polite. Then again, I find most Indian's whom I have met online or in person to be very friendly. Of course, a friendly demeanour alone does not a functional web site make. I'll report back on my experience.

Nysus · 12-12-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius

...

Now let's say someone more technical/experienced analyzed the same task and deduced it would take 4 hours, not two weeks. They would charge you five hundred dollars (say they charge $125/hour).

The first thing to figure out is, if you have this product almost two weeks earlier, what is that worth to you ? If it's worth more than two hundred bucks, using this example, then you lost money.
...

Very accurate post. Just to note you'll have to still fish for good programmers at the high-end of $125 / hour who may do little to no work during that time as well.

Mock NyaMout · 12-12-2009, 07:24 PM

You can jerk off or pay someone to do it. More than 1 way of doing most things.
Just cause you can do it yourself does not mean you can berate them.

ohteddy · 12-12-2009, 07:52 PM

adendreams:

If you think you're a good programmer, and in the 95 percentile, I suggest you test you skills at the next ICFP Content (icfpcontest.org). You'll surely make more than 9$ an hour if you win - and if you do you'll get hired in second by anyone with a salary ranging from 60-100 USD.

I've competed in the last 2 contests, and it's a lot of fun, if you enjoy solving difficult problems.

adendreams · 12-16-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ohteddy

adendreams:

If you think you're a good programmer, and in the 95 percentile, I suggest you test you skills at the next ICFP Content (icfpcontest.org). You'll surely make more than 9$ an hour if you win - and if you do you'll get hired in second by anyone with a salary ranging from 60-100 USD.

I've competed in the last 2 contests, and it's a lot of fun, if you enjoy solving difficult problems.

thanks ohteddy

i will do the test...

yuu.design · 12-16-2009, 01:17 PM

BUmb for u doode!

FreeOnes · 12-16-2009, 03:08 PM

Sorry guys I have bought all his hours for next year 24 * 365 * $9 and he is moving to Holland. Now he can sleep and still earn money!

Exit-chat · 12-16-2009, 03:14 PM

does he do PHP as well?

adendreams · 12-16-2009, 04:23 PM

hi Rick added u on icq....

Mock NyaMout · 12-16-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeOnes

Sorry guys I have bought all his hours for next year 24 * 365 * $9 and he is moving to Holland. Now he can sleep and still earn money!

adendreams · 12-17-2009, 12:36 PM

today's bump

ivillage · 12-26-2009, 02:43 AM

Happy Christmas

12-26-2009, 03:15 AM

Judging by the post count of the OP, the vendor mentioned, and some of the bumps here (example: 26), this looks like a scam in the making (not to mention that there has already been one negative report mentioned here, though this person's post count was low as well). Personally, I went through 3 teams over 4 or so months before finding the right people to bring into our company (including an award-winning team from the USA). And, though I'm not biased about the location of your workforce, I certainly agree that you need to find people that you can trust or you will face a world of business risks.

fatfoo · 12-26-2009, 04:35 AM

Only $9 an hour? Cool.

ivillage · 12-26-2009, 11:17 AM

yeah, $9 an hour

adendreams · 12-27-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ivillage

yeah, $9 an hour

thanks Chris

Young · 12-27-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by magpan

Judging by the post count of the OP, the vendor mentioned, and some of the bumps here (example: 26), this looks like a scam in the making (not to mention that there has already been one negative report mentioned here, though this person's post count was low as well). Personally, I went through 3 teams over 4 or so months before finding the right people to bring into our company (including an award-winning team from the USA). And, though I'm not biased about the location of your workforce, I certainly agree that you need to find people that you can trust or you will face a world of business risks.

says the guy who held a logo design contest for his company and doesn't even have a web page.

borked · 12-27-2009, 01:52 PM

I see this magic number $125/hr flying around this thread a lot...

damn, I'm seriously undercharging!

... $125/hr, ~$1k/d, ~300k/yr
things that make you go hmmmmmm.

Platinumpimp · 12-27-2009, 08:01 PM

In Thailand they say: "Mai abnaam - mai sa ahaat'' (No Indian - not clean) about people from India and that is not without a reason

Platinumpimp · 12-27-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by borked

I see this magic number $125/hr flying around this thread a lot...

damn, I'm seriously undercharging!

... $125/hr, ~$1k/d, ~300k/yr
things that make you go hmmmmmm.

Raise your fees bro!

fris · 12-27-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

thanks Chris

can you respond on you not being able to complete a simple job without giving excuses?

12-27-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

says the guy who held a logo design contest for his company and doesn't even have a web page.

...says the guy who owns the company that:

(1) designed and developed ClubXXXCams (original script) and ClubXXXCash;
(2) transformed this script into a licensed version called VCMS (which has been licensed by a couple of major adult companies already);
(3) is developing an HD compression app similar to ON2 that will be offered as an inexpensive alternative to this product; and
(4) is developing iPhone and BlackBerry apps for the adult industry.

Ref the logo contest vs. website --- maybe, logically, it is better to have your logo / color palette in place prior to designing the site? And, maybe we haven't developed our site until now due to the fact that we have been busy designing, developing, and marketing our core business process (namely VCMS)? Why hold a logo contest? Hmmm... exposure, an outsider's perspective for something fresh (especially after our team worked for nearly 1 year without vacations), or maybe to give something back for the comments that we have received over the past several months that, ultimately, led us to the release of VCMS? Take your pick.

Do your homework before you comment.

I call the scam based on (1) the fact that someone (supposedly) tested this developer's services and came up with a blank and (2) the fact that the OP is very new, is bumping someone that is even newer, and it looks like it could even be the case of fake sigs being used. At least when I bump, I blatantly do it with my own sig. Nothing to hide here, no ulterior motive.

To the OP's developer: I am not trying to take your business. Your hourly fees and ours are in significantly separate ranges. However, I am calling this thread on bullshit. I will invest $90 into you for 10 hours of test, immediately ($45 in advance, $45 on completion of the test, ePassporte paid via our business account). We will provide you with a reasonable amount of work for the time allotted with an extensive guideline to complete the test. If you complete the work with an acceptable standard of code and within the time allowed, I'll bump the shit out this thread for the next 365 days. The proverbial 'put your money and skills where your mouth is...' This is your time to shine!

woj · 12-27-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked

I see this magic number $125/hr flying around this thread a lot...

damn, I'm seriously undercharging!

... $125/hr, ~$1k/d, ~300k/yr
things that make you go hmmmmmm.

you are indeed probably undercharging...

12-27-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

can you respond on you not being able to complete a simple job without giving excuses?

My thoughts, exactly.

I went through this with all of the teams that I mentioned in my earlier post (except the USA-based team), one of which was from India. Again, I'm not biased on workforce location but experience tells me that complex development will not get very far, especially if your provider is telecommuting.

adendreams · 12-27-2009, 11:12 PM

Hi guys, i charge $9 per hr. yeah undercharge for regular works...

harvey · 12-27-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams

Hi guys, i charge $9 per hr. yeah undercharge for regular works...

I don't know, but instead of bumping with no answers I think it would help you a lot to answer the questions made to you. Or to have samples of your work. I mean, something that helps people not to think what Magpan is saying. I mean, nobody here is stupid and everybody knows the OP, you and IVillage are the same person or at least working together, and most people here had really bad experiences with this kind of behaviors, so maybe you'd come clean on something instead of playing the dumb/mystery card

Just my 2 cents, do whatever you want, but I doubt you will have much success the way you're conducting yourself

microcash · 01-28-2010, 02:37 PM

Need to fix a javascript page, added u in icq

lazycash · 01-28-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by drriley

We are now several weeks past my last post where I said that I would report back on my experience. Although very pleasant, it has nevertheless become necessary for me to end my business dealings with this designer and look for design services elsewhere.

I have waited for weeks with no response other than an email about personal problems being encountered that was preventing my work from being completed. The last email assured me that one of my sites would be complete 5 days ago, and I have not heard any further response, nor is the site completed.

Had I wired money (a deposit) via Western Union, Paypal or Epassporte to India, I would be out the money, plain and simple. In this case I wanted to test the designers ability by getting one very small project completed first, at which point I would pay and proceed to contract out larger projects.

I do still need to find a balance between contracting out to cheap foreign labour and the often grossly inflated prices charged by many North American based designers. I am not prepared to pay hundreds of dollars for what amounts to only a couple of hours work -- as I have done on one occasion in the past when the designer simply took one of my existing sites and made some cosmetic changes to it, and billed me $200 for an hour or two of work that I could have done myself if my idea of re-designing my site consisted only of changing some colours and a bit of the layout.

Again, this guy from Aden Design is very nice, but nice doesn't cut it when work needs to get done.

Why would any of you consider using him after this post that he never even responded to.

NetHorse · 01-28-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drriley

I do still need to find a balance between contracting out to cheap foreign labour and the often grossly inflated prices charged by many North American based designers.

Hit me up on ICQ, I'll show you how to do it, (no I'm not a programmer and no I'm not going to refer you to anyone specific).

And to everyone else, the OP's website, http://www.adendreams.us/ is now parked at godaddy.

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12-17-2009, 12:36 PM	#82
adendreams Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LA and Florida Posts: 1,887	today's bump __________________ Aden - Your Content Shooter Superfreak ADEN CONTENT · HD Video · Ex-GF · Am Content · Pro Content · PHP Programming · Package Deals • Skype or ICQ available on request •

12-26-2009, 02:43 AM	#83
ivillage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 28	Happy Christmas __________________ icq : 583-259-140 ivillage.network [at] gmail.com

12-26-2009, 03:15 AM	#84
magpan Guest Posts: n/a	Judging by the post count of the OP, the vendor mentioned, and some of the bumps here (example: 26), this looks like a scam in the making (not to mention that there has already been one negative report mentioned here, though this person's post count was low as well). Personally, I went through 3 teams over 4 or so months before finding the right people to bring into our company (including an award-winning team from the USA). And, though I'm not biased about the location of your workforce, I certainly agree that you need to find people that you can trust or you will face a world of business risks.

12-26-2009, 04:35 AM	#85
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Only $9 an hour? Cool. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

12-26-2009, 11:17 AM	#86
ivillage Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 28	yeah, $9 an hour __________________ icq : 583-259-140 ivillage.network [at] gmail.com

12-27-2009, 01:52 PM	#89
borked Totally Borked Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,284	I see this magic number $125/hr flying around this thread a lot... damn, I'm seriously undercharging! ... $125/hr, ~$1k/d, ~300k/yr things that make you go hmmmmmm. __________________ For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com (consider figuring out the email as test #1) All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

12-27-2009, 08:01 PM	#90
Platinumpimp Logos and such. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 10,214	In Thailand they say: "Mai abnaam - mai sa ahaat'' (No Indian - not clean) about people from India and that is not without a reason __________________ I design logo's. Last edited by Platinumpimp; 12-27-2009 at 08:03 PM..

12-27-2009, 11:12 PM	#96
adendreams Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LA and Florida Posts: 1,887	Hi guys, i charge $9 per hr. yeah undercharge for regular works... __________________ Aden - Your Content Shooter Superfreak ADEN CONTENT · HD Video · Ex-GF · Am Content · Pro Content · PHP Programming · Package Deals • Skype or ICQ available on request •

01-28-2010, 02:37 PM	#98
microcash Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 22	Need to fix a javascript page, added u in icq