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Old 11-16-2009, 10:30 PM   #1
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NASA on Crusade to Debunk '2012'

NASA on Crusade to Debunk '2012'

they also said they put a man on the moon.
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Lolz, you think they didnt land on the moon.
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Lolz, you think they didnt land on the moon.
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Lolz, you think they didnt land on the moon.
Watch documentaries on it -- Apollo Zero is one I can think of right off.

We don't even have the technology to go 400 miles from the earth, let alone 238,857 miles.
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Watch documentaries on it -- Apollo Zero is one I can think of right off.

We don't even have the technology to go 400 miles from the earth, let alone 238,857 miles.
did they fake all the moon landings? or just the first one?
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did they fake all the moon landings? or just the first one?
no man has ever gone more than 400 miles from earth. we have no way to go through the radiation that the "Van Allen radiation belt" gives off.
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no man has ever gone more than 400 miles from earth. we have no way to go through the radiation that the "Van Allen radiation belt" gives off.
i find it more impressive than actually landing on the moon that all 6 lunar landings were faked.

would love an explanation as to how all those were pulled off.
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To check the amount of crazy the op is, do you believe the world is going to end in 2012 too?
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To check the amount of crazy the op is, do you believe the world is going to end in 2012 too?
no, because I don't know of any serious evidence to prove it.
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i find it more impressive than actually landing on the moon that all 6 lunar landings were faked.

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i wonder how much cash it took to payoff all the NASA employees involved in the lunar landings over the 8 years of the project. and to keep them all quiet since then. not even a memoir tell-all death bed book!

now THAT is impressive, hat's off NASA
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now see this is real proof, the shadows of the camera crew do NOT follow the same direction of the shadow of the astronut in the pic.

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i wonder how much cash it took to payoff all the NASA employees involved in the lunar landings over the 8 years of the project. and to keep them all quiet since then. not even a memoir tell-all death bed book!

now THAT is impressive, hat's off NASA
I got to agree with that. Even the CIA and the FBI can't keep secrets.

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I got to agree with that. Even the CIA and the FBI can't keep secrets.

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when you go and kill one of your top astronauts before the 1st so-called moon landing, because he didn't want to go alone with it -- I imagine you can shut a few people up.
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i wonder how much cash it took to payoff all the NASA employees involved in the lunar landings over the 8 years of the project. and to keep them all quiet since then. not even a memoir tell-all death bed book!


Not to mention the Russians, Great Britain, France and every other super power at the time that tracked the Apollo landings in radar

As for watching Apollo Zero, no thanks, I know well enough that with the correct writing, commentary and props, you can make people believe the world is flat

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Not to mention the Russians, Great Britain, France and every other super power at the time that tracked the Apollo landings in radar

As for watch Apollo Zero, no thanks, I know well enough that with the correct writing, commentary and props, you can make people believe the world is flat
breathe in the ignorance...good i love it.

Answer this then smart ass -- why haven't any of the super powers, especially Russia...not even gone outside the 400 mile limit?
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Not to mention the Russians, Great Britain, France and every other super power at the time that tracked the Apollo landings in radar

As for watching Apollo Zero, no thanks, I know well enough that with the correct writing, commentary and props, you can make people believe the world is flat
Well hells bells! The world is NOT flat?

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when you go and kill one of your top astronauts before the 1st so-called moon landing, because he didn't want to go alone with it -- I imagine you can shut a few people up.
yup, NASA got the one guy who was gonna blow the lid off the whole jig, the jig would of been up then, it was a good jig though.

agreed on there being only a few people involved in the project too. certainly not the thousands and thousands who claimed to be a part of it all, those fakers. they weren't part of the jig.
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Not to mention the Russians, Great Britain, France and every other super power at the time that tracked the Apollo landings in radar

As for watching Apollo Zero, no thanks, I know well enough that with the correct writing, commentary and props, you can make people believe the world is flat


exactly!

they were all in on the jig, that's how good this jig was, best. jig. ever.
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yup, NASA got the one guy who was gonna blow the lid off the whole jig, the jig would of been up then, it was a good jig though.

agreed on their being only a few people involved in the project too. certainly not the thousands and thousands who claimed to be a part of it all, those fakers. they weren't part of the jig.
to seem like you don't really have a clue what you're actually talking about, one way or the other...it's really weird that you'd have anything to say.
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when you go and kill one of your top astronauts before the 1st so-called moon landing, because he didn't want to go alone with it -- I imagine you can shut a few people up.
So NASA can shut people up and the CIA and FBI can't. So maybe NASA needs to train all the CIA and FBI personnel. ;)

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here's a little factoid about the lunar landings, the united states spent 5% of it's entire budget on it. where'd all that cash go? that's right- to my dad and the few others who were in on the charade.
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So NASA can shut people up and the CIA and FBI can't. So maybe NASA needs to train all the CIA and FBI personnel. ;)

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Are you being even remotely serious? There are probably millions of things that CIA and FBI are hiding...and lots of people they've shut up. You think because you hear an odd case on the news, that you know all their secrets? You should read your posts and seriously think them out before pressing "Submit Reply".
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Are you being even remotely serious? There are probably millions of things that CIA and FBI are hiding...and lots of people they've shut up. You think because you hear an odd case on the news, that you know all their secrets? You should read your posts and seriously think them out before pressing "Submit Reply".
Where did I say I knew all their secrets? Sure they have plenty. Just find it extremely funny that NASA can keep ALL secrets when other agencies that do have many secrets can't keep them all.

You did read above about the world being flat right?

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You should read your posts and seriously think them out before pressing "Submit Reply".

umm, well, err. n/m
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Where did I say I knew all their secrets? Sure they have plenty. Just find it extremely funny that NASA can keep ALL secrets when other agencies that do have many secrets can't keep them all.

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Is she being serious? I give up.
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Doesn't anyone think it's a little nutty that everyone that replied against what I said, doesn't seem to know a thing about either side of this story?
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Doesn't anyone think it's a little nutty that everyone that replied against what I said, doesn't seem to know a thing about either side of this story?
look, i'd love to continue making you look like an idiot by bombarding you with facts. but the fact is, i'm bored, you are too easy a target, and i am going to go nap before waking up in a few hours to catch the leonid meteor shower.

and don't you dare tell me THAT is going to be faked like all 6 lunar landings, then i'll really be mad at you for spoiling my fun tonite.
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no man has ever gone more than 400 miles from earth. we have no way to go through the radiation that the "Van Allen radiation belt" gives off.
It is funny how you say anyone who thinks the moon landings are real are ignorant when you in fact don't have even the simplest concepts of physics. Otherwise you would not be using this tired tool the hoaxers always drag out of their toolbox first.

The idiocy is actually quite baffling.

Is the Van Allen Belt dangerous? Of course it is... If you just sit there in it!

These retard hoaxers think this magic tool for their proof, the Van Allen Belt, is this uniform cloud that floats around every square inch of space around earth. Well guess what... it isn't.

They are regions where the Earths magnetic field has trapped particles from the solar winds. There are thin zones within these belts that can easily be traveled through. Not only that, they didn't stick around in there having a Sunday picnic, they zipped through it fairly quick.

Think it is still wrong? Well do some searches. I know many physicists who would gladly tell you exactly the same thing I am. Look at some of my past posts... I know a thing or two about physics and astronomy.
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It is funny how you say anyone who thinks the moon landings are real are ignorant when you in fact don't have even the simplest concepts of physics. Otherwise you would not be using this tired tool the hoaxers always drag out of their toolbox first.

The idiocy is actually quite baffling.

Is the Van Allen Belt dangerous? Of course it is... If you just sit there in it!

These retard hoaxers think this magic tool for their proof, the Van Allen Belt, is this uniform cloud that floats around every square inch of space around earth. Well guess what... it isn't.

They are regions where the Earths magnetic field has trapped particles from the solar winds. There are thin zones within these belts that can easily be traveled through. Not only that, they didn't stick around in there having a Sunday picnic, they zipped through it fairly quick.

Think it is still wrong? Well do some searches. I know many physicists who would gladly tell you exactly the same thing I am. Look at some of my past posts... I know a thing or two about physics and astronomy.
I was going to argue it too, but really save your typing. Conspiracy theorists will never be persuaded otherwise. People believing that our government agencies can cover anything up and fool everyone is what keeps people in their place. Look at the 9/11 conspiracy theorists...
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no, because I don't know of any serious evidence to prove it.
Perhaps maybe a mirror that one could bounce a laser off of that was left on the moon to measure its distance, or something like that? Something that anyone with a laser with enough power could do legally?
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Perhaps maybe a mirror that one could bounce a laser off of that was left on the moon to measure its distance, or something like that? Something that anyone with a laser with enough power could do legally?
Quit confusing the debate with logic.
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i wonder how much cash it took to payoff all the NASA employees involved in the lunar landings over the 8 years of the project. and to keep them all quiet since then. not even a memoir tell-all death bed book!

now THAT is impressive, hat's off NASA
maybe that's why they can't afford to do anything
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Watch documentaries on it -- Apollo Zero is one I can think of right off.

We don't even have the technology to go 400 miles from the earth, let alone 238,857 miles.
I'm closely related to Neil Armstrong. Our family knows several astronauts and I've looked through their personal photos. Trust me, we can go 400 miles past earth. The problem is, the physics involved to do such a thing, is more complex than most people, even some scientists, can fathom. When they don't understand it, they say it's fake or it can't be done.

Not too different than broke ass webmasters saying it is impossible to pay a high PPS without cheating someone. If they don't understand, they can't grasp what is involved to get it done. This is why you and I are in porn, the naysayers are making movies and writing books, and those who DID IT and DO IT, work at NASA and for the government.
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i wonder how much cash it took to payoff all the NASA employees involved in the lunar landings over the 8 years of the project. and to keep them all quiet since then.
You are assuming that every NASA employee was knowingly involved in the hoax (assuming it was a hoax, not saying it was). It is very possible that they thought they were doing a moon mission that was actually not taking place. It is also possible that the module really was sent to the moon and back, but with nobody inside of it.

As for a fake production, that would require relatively few people.

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You are assuming that every NASA employee was knowingly involved in the hoax (assuming it was a hoax, not saying it was). It is very possible that they thought they were doing a moon mission that was actually not taking place. It is also possible that the module really was sent to the moon and back, but with nobody inside of it.

As for a fake production, that would require relatively few people.
I agree, the fake production would require only a few people , who could be tightly controlled. The rest of the NASA people would be fed the same pablum from a remote location and they would not know any different then the rest of us.

The problem as I see it is both the belivers and the nay sayers are stuck in the own little arguments, one side does not look at the other sides claims with an open mind. Keep an open mind to what others claim, it not like the goverment has never lied to us before ?
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LOL, excellent. I can imagine many people using this pic as "prove" that the landing was all fake.
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The killer radiation

Claim: Apollo astronauts could not have travelled to the moon as a giant belt of lethal space radiation would have frazzled them.

Why it's nonsense: These so called Van Allen belts, where the Earth's magnetic field collects solar radiation, would be dangerous only if people were to hang out there for several days. The astronauts whizzed through in a matter of hours, and received a radiation dose similar to an X-ray. "You can pass through quite safely as long as you don't linger too long," Millard says.

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Damn you, pesky science, for spoiling the tinfoil hat wearing loons' fun!
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:57 AM   #43
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If NASA paid everybody off, did they pay off the KGB and all of their spies too? I'm sure Russia would have been absolutely delighted to point out to the world that the lunar landings were fake.
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OH where was NASA when Y2K hit?? WHERE!!
2012 nothing is going to happen, seriously more than likely the guy creating the calendar was going to continue until his wife said, "get into the house now it's dinner time".. or his friends said, "seriously dude, stop with the counting already, we get it!!"
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You are assuming that every NASA employee was knowingly involved in the hoax (assuming it was a hoax, not saying it was). It is very possible that they thought they were doing a moon mission that was actually not taking place. It is also possible that the module really was sent to the moon and back, but with nobody inside of it.

As for a fake production, that would require relatively few people.
i'm not assuming anything, stop assuming that i am. you need to investigate how large an operation the lunar landings were. and i will pose the same basic question to you after you've done that- were ALL 6 landings faked over the 8 year span of trips to the moon?

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I agree, the fake production would require only a few people , who could be tightly controlled. The rest of the NASA people would be fed the same pablum from a remote location and they would not know any different then the rest of us.

The problem as I see it is both the belivers and the nay sayers are stuck in the own little arguments, one side does not look at the other sides claims with an open mind. Keep an open mind to what others claim, it not like the goverment has never lied to us before ?
now you assume way too much, so much, it's laughable.

i've delved into both sides. just because i believe they are legit does NOT mean i haven't watched zero apollo, or read a litany of material about how they were fake. just like i've read, watched, discussed material re: them being real. i've come to the conclusion that they were in fact real.

your government lies stance really is sophmoric thinking. did the government lie about the highway system? well, they must have, they are the government, so all those roads i've seen on the maps must be one big charade of highways and by-ways.

people like you two need to learn something called *critical thinking* especially in the day of internet, photoshop, hollywood and youtube. when you do, you will realize many other people ALREADY know how to critically think on their own and aren't just simply choosing a side.

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The killer radiation

Claim: Apollo astronauts could not have travelled to the moon as a giant belt of lethal space radiation would have frazzled them.

Why it's nonsense: These so called Van Allen belts, where the Earth's magnetic field collects solar radiation, would be dangerous only if people were to hang out there for several days. The astronauts whizzed through in a matter of hours, and received a radiation dose similar to an X-ray. "You can pass through quite safely as long as you don't linger too long," Millard says.

Sigh.

Damn you, pesky science, for spoiling the tinfoil hat wearing loons' fun!
Yeah... pretty much what I said way up there in post 31.
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i'm not assuming anything, stop assuming that i am. you need to investigate how large an operation the lunar landings were. and i will pose the same basic question to you after you've done that- were ALL 6 landings faked over the 8 year span of trips to the moon?



now you assume way too much, so much, it's laughable.

i've delved into both sides. just because i believe they are legit does NOT mean i haven't watched zero apollo, or read a litany of material about how they were fake. just like i've read, watched, discussed material re: them being real. i've come to the conclusion that they were in fact real.

your government lies stance really is sophmoric thinking. did the government lie about the highway system? well, they must have, they are the government, so all those roads i've seen on the maps must be one big charade of highways and by-ways.

people like you two need to learn something called *critical thinking* especially in the day of internet, photoshop, hollywood and youtube. when you do, you will realize many other people ALREADY know how to critically think on their own and aren't just simply choosing a side.

the problem as I see it, is that you just simply dont agree with my"critical" thinking and stop with the simplistic bullshit about the highways
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the problem as I see it, is that you just simply dont agree with my"critical" thinking and stop with the simplistic bullshit about the highways
you are the one simplifying into a few people a huge agency with thousands of employees dedicated to a project.

i will retract my simplified example if you can point to any verifiable information that it would only take a few people to pull off the "fake production"

i won't expect you to show proof from ALL the other countries, including our enemies at the time, that tracked every single lunar landing on radar.
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