All Pit Haters Here!

[TurboAngel]

Yesterday I went out to get the mail and heard a dog barking so I turn around and see the Jack Russel across the street running up to the mail lady, next thing you know the poor lady is sprawled out in the crappy driveway and the dog is attacking her. The owner came around the corner and grabbed the dog. I watched as they helped the lady wash up and pulled a chair out so she could sit.

The people had asked me about my dog trainer cuz as he had bitten 2 people, my trainer went over and said that dog was crazy going after the baby and everything.

Point is if my dog had done that 911 would have been called and more than likely she would have been put down. So why do people think it's ok when a Jack Russel attacks?

[cherrylula]

hate the owners not the breed!

[dyna mo]

i have a hard time believing the postal carrier did not call animal control, they are trained to do so.

fact is, authorities should of been called in that situation, regardless of breed.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i have a hard time believing the postal carrier did not call animal control, they are trained to do so.

fact is, authorities should of been called in that situation, regardless of breed.

Well it sure didn't look like anyone was call. I wish I had gotten it on vid.

[Twistys Tim]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

So why do people think it's ok when a Jack Russel attacks?

It isn't alright, regardless of which breed of dog attacks. There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners.

[Tom_PM]

When I was a child, our dachsund would attack the mailman every day.
Mailmen or letter carriers are invaders of the homestead, lol. They MUST be attacked!

[XD2]

Jack Russells are pretty evil, I got bit by one while posting a letter at someones house once

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

hate the owners not the breed!

I know this and will be asking the mail man today if it was reported the point is that if MY dog had done the same 911 would have been called, it has me kinda pissed off right now. I'm not going to report it, not that the thought hasn't crossed my mind.

[dyna mo]

why didn't YOU call 911? you've mentioned elsewhere you've called authorities when you've seen pitbulls tied to trees.

just asking.

[bronco67]

Dogs are not bad. Only owners are.

My lab has play dates with several dogs, and one of them is a gray/silver pit. The dog is a sweetheart, because his owner is a sweetheart.

When I see some thuggy looking kid walking a Pitbull on a choker chain(or an improperly fitted prong), I know that there's no hope for that dog.

The problem with the Pit breed is that they generally attract douchey type of people as owners. If the Pit gets lucky enough to have a good, responsible owner that trains him properly, they're as harmless as a kitten.

There's a Golden Retriever in my neighborhood that I won't let my Lab go anywhere near -- he's a snarling wolverine everytime you see him -- and I've met the owner, who turns out to be one of the biggest assholes I've ever had the misfortune of meeting. Big surprise.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

why didn't YOU call 911? you've mentioned elsewhere you've called authorities when you've seen pitbulls tied to trees.

just asking.

You are right I should have, but I do have to live here. I sure haven't seen any animals being abused in my neighborhood. The dog's I had seen tied to the tress I had seen driving around lost. That tends to happen when you smoke purple weed.

[Twistys Tim]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Dogs are not bad. Only owners are.

My lab has play dates with several dogs, and one of them is a gray/silver pit. The dog is a sweetheart, because his owner is a sweetheart.

When I see some thuggy looking kid walking a Pitbull on a choker chain(or an improperly fitted prong), I know that there's no hope for that dog.

The problem with the Pit breed is that they generally attract douchey type of people as owners. If the Pit gets lucky enough to have a good, responsible owner that trains him properly, they're as harmless as a kitten.

There's a Golden Retriever in my neighborhood that I won't let my Lab go anywhere near -- he's a snarling wolverine everytime you see him -- and I've met the owner, who turns out to be one of the biggest assholes I've ever had the misfortune of meeting. Big surprise.

The biggest problems occur with dogs when the owners either encourage aggressive behavior, or they humanize the animal. In both cases, the dogs become very confused and unpredictable. Humanizing a dog, such as letting it sit on the couch, sleep in the bed, eat human food, too much petting, and not enough walking will result in very aggressive behavior towards both humans and other dogs -- as the dog doesn't know what it is, and cannot manage it's relationships with strangers.

[LoveSandra]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

hate the owners not the breed!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

You are right I should have, but I do have to live here. I sure haven't seen any animals being abused in my neighborhood. The dog's I had seen tied to the tress I had seen driving around lost. That tends to happen when you smoke purple weed.

it's a tough call, i understand. just the other day i was faced with a similar situation. my dog was *nipped* by another dog at the park. the dog was a herding dog and off-leash.

[Agent 488]

the "bad owners not bad breed" thing is one of the most stupid so-called truisms around. like some dog owning schlub can change millions of years of hard wired evolution and genetics.

"there are no bad sharks, but bad shark owners."

[Tom_PM]

It's irresponsible to say that only owners are bad. By the way, we are talking about a specific, so we dont need to decide if someone or something is inherently INTENDING harm. All we need to do is look at the incidents of reported bites and attacks. Thats all that needs to be known. And all that has to be done to see answers is look at the data, and look at the breeeds that rise to the top through biting.

I'm not saying anything else other than it's known data and has nothing to do with good or bad or good and evil or any other judgment attitude. It's just some dang data.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

the "bad owners not bad breed" thing is one of the most stupid so-called truisms around. like some dog owning schlub can change millions of years of hard wired evolution and genetics.

"there are no bad sharks, but bad shark owners."

Ok, you're partially right. Pits, Rotties and GSD's have more genetics that make em predisposed to being dangerous -- but proper training can keep that in check -- which is where the good vs bad owner comes into the equation.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

It's irresponsible to say that only owners are bad. By the way, we are talking about a specific, so we dont need to decide if someone or something is inherently INTENDING harm. All we need to do is look at the incidents of reported bites and attacks. Thats all that needs to be known. And all that has to be done to see answers is look at the data, and look at the breeeds that rise to the top through biting.

I'm not saying anything else other than it's known data and has nothing to do with good or bad or good and evil or any other judgment attitude. It's just some dang data.

Point is that dog bit 2 other people and they went unreported as most little dog bits go. You only here about it when it happens to be a bigger dog or a breed that everyone thinks is a bad breed.

The other point is my dog is a pit and if she had gotten out what do you think would have happened?

[Xrated J]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

hate the owners not the breed!

[Ross]

It's absolutely not ok just because its a Jack Russell. A dog attacks someone and bites them, they should be dealt with. My dog would only have to snap at someone and he would be in a muzzle. If he ever bit someone he would be destroyed no matter how much I love him. Good thing for me he is the gentlest dog you could ever wish to meet.

[L-Pink]

The difference is the same as being confronted by a kid with a squirt-gun vs an adult with a shot-gun. Same thing but very different.


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[ArsewithClass]

lol... these days half the human race gets aggressive & attacks for no reason. I do agree with cherrylula, its down to the owners.


Owners of dogs, all dogs & animals, should keep the named on leads & inside the home. I think the courts vindicate pits because the fact that they were bred to be fighting dogs. German Sheppards can give just as nasty a bite though! I dont think a little Jack russel can hurt as much but they must have an attacking mode as they were bred to catch rabbits down holes.

Keep thy animal on a leash

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

The difference is the same as being confronted by a kid with a squirt-gun vs an adult with a shot-gun. Same thing but very different.


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Ahhhhhhhh ok.

[PenisFace]

I got bit by a scruffy little mother fucker when I was like 4 years old. HE WAS IN OUR GARAGE I JUST WANTED TO PET HIM

Since then, I've had rage against any dog that's as small or smaller than a big cat. When I was 12 or 13 I had a paper route. A similar tiny mother fucker of a dog decided to attack me (while its inept owner stood there going "come ooooonnnnn scurfffffy, hes okaaay he wont biiite uuuuu"). It bit my pant leg while snarling and growling, so I responded by kicking it as hard as I could.

Dogs DO fly! Mother fucking owner got mad at me for booting their dog as it was biting me. If I wasnt a kid and it happened now I'd boot the dog and then the owner. :D

[TurboAngel]

That sucks, I missed the mail man today so I don't know if it was reported or not.

[Loch]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Yesterday I went out to get the mail and heard a dog barking so I turn around and see the Jack Russel across the street running up to the mail lady, next thing you know the poor lady is sprawled out in the crappy driveway and the dog is attacking her. The owner came around the corner and grabbed the dog. I watched as they helped the lady wash up and pulled a chair out so she could sit.

The people had asked me about my dog trainer cuz as he had bitten 2 people, my trainer went over and said that dog was crazy going after the baby and everything.

Point is if my dog had done that 911 would have been called and more than likely she would have been put down. So why do people think it's ok when a Jack Russel attacks?

Because in most cases when a Pit goes nuts kids are disfigured for life or die in worst cases.....Im not saying its the dogs fault, really it never is, but pitbulls attract a LOT of trailerpark trash that think its funny getting a dog they can whip into a frenzy so that its hanging from a tree growling....

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Yesterday I went out to get the mail and heard a dog barking so I turn around and see the Jack Russel across the street running up to the mail lady, next thing you know the poor lady is sprawled out in the crappy driveway and the dog is attacking her. The owner came around the corner and grabbed the dog. I watched as they helped the lady wash up and pulled a chair out so she could sit.

The people had asked me about my dog trainer cuz as he had bitten 2 people, my trainer went over and said that dog was crazy going after the baby and everything.

Point is if my dog had done that 911 would have been called and more than likely she would have been put down. So why do people think it's ok when a Jack Russel attacks?

I don't see how a jack russell could have knocked her to the ground? Was she missing a leg? Also, any bite should be reported but obviously a pit is going to do more damage when it bites than a small breed dog. They are also easier to contain, just the weight difference alone makes a huge difference.

[alias]

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I don't see how a jack russell could have knocked her to the ground? Was she missing a leg?

I have no clue, all I saw was the dog and boom she was on the ground and the owner of the dog run up and grabbed the dog.

[Varius]

To answer the original question, obviously people fear the larger animal who can probably do more damage. I doubt many people attacked by a small dog are thinking their life is in danger (even if it may be), but most people attacked by a full size pitbull would think that. So, not really a hard question to answer.

As for the rest, unless the animal is brain-damaged or sick (rabid), I do 100% blame the owners or the person getting attacked. That doesn't just go for dogs either...

The ONLY animals in the Animal Kingdom believed to kill for pleasure/sport are humans, some large cats, orcas and great white sharks.

[jollyperv]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

the "bad owners not bad breed" thing is one of the most stupid so-called truisms around. like some dog owning schlub can change millions of years of hard wired evolution and genetics.

"there are no bad sharks, but bad shark owners."

[slapass]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Point is that dog bit 2 other people and they went unreported as most little dog bits go. You only here about it when it happens to be a bigger dog or a breed that everyone thinks is a bad breed.

The other point is my dog is a pit and if she had gotten out what do you think would have happened?

You seriously don't see a difference between an attack by this dog and an attack by a pit? Hard to explain but this dog is half the size of a pit and is not much of a threat to a human. yeah it might hurt or even draw blood where as an attacking pit can kill a human.

Not bagging on the breed but it is not amazing that most people don't view the two breeds you mention here as the same thing.

[cognitos]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

the "bad owners not bad breed" thing is one of the most stupid so-called truisms around. like some dog owning schlub can change millions of years of hard wired evolution and genetics.

"there are no bad sharks, but bad shark owners."

Do you know many people who own sharks, and bring those sharks into scenarios where they will have direct contact with humans?

[PenisFace]

Originally Posted by Varius

To answer the original question, obviously people fear the larger animal who can probably do more damage. I doubt many people attacked by a small dog are thinking their life is in danger (even if it may be), but most people attacked by a full size pitbull would think that. So, not really a hard question to answer.

As for the rest, unless the animal is brain-damaged or sick (rabid), I do 100% blame the owners or the person getting attacked. That doesn't just go for dogs either...

The ONLY animals in the Animal Kingdom believed to kill for pleasure/sport are humans, some large cats, orcas and great white sharks.

one small dog is easy to deal with ,you boot it across the room. A single full grown pit can and has killed people. Now if you had to deal with 50 little dogs, then maybe they'd overcome you.. Does anyone have a link to that "how many fifth graders could you beat up" test? The same thing applies here.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by slapass

You seriously don't see a difference between an attack by this dog and an attack by a pit? Hard to explain but this dog is half the size of a pit and is not much of a threat to a human. yeah it might hurt or even draw blood where as an attacking pit can kill a human.

Not bagging on the breed but it is not amazing that most people don't view the two breeds you mention here as the same thing.

I understand a pitt would do more damage the point is it wasn't reported, if my dog (a pit) had done the same she would have been taken away and 911 would have been called. This dog has bitten 2 other people yet everyone seems ok with that.

[fatfoo]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

The people had asked me about my dog trainer cuz as he had bitten 2 people, my trainer went over and said that dog was crazy going after the baby and everything.

Your dog trainer bit 2 people? That's unfortunate. I really liked reading your post, thank you so much for posting such interesting details. Go fuck yourself, muthafucka.

Woof!! Woof!!

I've heard of Pit Bulls gone mad in a rabid frenzy and not only do the dogs go after helpless senile grandmas sprawled out in various driveways, but they even attack their own master and bite the face off.

[ahoy]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

I understand a pitt would do more damage the point is it wasn't reported, if my dog (a pit) had done the same she would have been taken away and 911 would have been called. This dog has bitten 2 other people yet everyone seems ok with that.

I understand what you are trying to say, "its just not fair". But lets be real, the reason your dog would be reported on and put down immediately if it was aggressive and attacked people is quite simple, it can easily can someone. An attacking Jack Russel, although may sting a bit and rather annoying, it has no chance of taking my life.

Like others have already said.. do you honestly not see the difference? Its like a little 9 year old swinging a knife threatening people, no chance in hell he would be put down. Now a huge deranged beast of a man swinging a knife at people... well he could very easily be gunned down.