Glen Beck is on right now and he just stated

[theking]

...that the government has shut off 90% of the farmers water in the Agricultural belt of the state to protect some kind of smelt. This cannot possibly be true as the farmers simply cannot produce crops...period...if 90% of their water has been denied to them.

Does anyone in California know anything about this?

[DWB]

Wouldn't doubt it. California is a MESS.

[blazin]

Might have known that you listen to that hatemonger. Glenn Beck is nuts!

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Well, it's sort of true.. but not the entire agricultural center.. one town.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Governme...atened_species

[Sly]

I was reading about that yesterday actually. He isn't the only one saying it. I think there are some lawsuits in the making as well.

[theking]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Wouldn't doubt it. California is a MESS.

Since California supplies a large percentage of the Nations food...I do not believe this to be true. Glen Beck tells out and out lies from time to time and partial truths most of the time...and I think this has to be an out and out lie.

[Sly]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...898375624.html

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Based on this image.. I don't think there's much water left to pump anyway..

[theking]

Originally Posted by Sly

I was reading about that yesterday actually. He isn't the only one saying it. I think there are some lawsuits in the making as well.

Did you read that 90% of the farmers water has been denied? If this were to be true farming will cease to exist...period...and this will effect the entire Nation.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Sly

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...898375624.html

Well...this article did not say 90% and as I stated...I cannot believe that 90% can possibly be anything other than an out and out lie.

[fusionx]

Originally Posted by theking

...that the government has shut off 90% of the farmers water in the Agricultural belt of the state to protect some kind of smelt. This cannot possibly be true as the farmers simply cannot produce crops...period...if 90% of their water has been denied to them.

Does anyone in California know anything about this?

When the water goes down low enough, maybe they'll find the body of a girl that Glenn Beck may have raped and murdered in 1990, though I don't really think Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

[jollyperv]

No problem, they can just use Brawndo instead, it's got what plants crave

[Rochard]

Um, there is some truth to this.

I don't know all of the details, but the main freeway between Sacramento / San Fran and Southern California is I-5, which is mostly farm land. There are signs all along the freeway that say something like "no water, no farms". I forget exactly what they say, but I remember seeing them last time and I looked it up when I got home. But it's something about how the government has diverted water from that area to some place else, fucking up the farms in the area.

A quick search turned up this:
http://www.farmwater.org/

(Not that I give a fuck what Glen Beck says.)

[Rochard]

Here's a better news article about it.

Seems a judge ordered the water shut off to this area because of some fucking fish no one cares about.

I'm telling you, the most important thing in our lives is water. We can live without oil. But when water dries up, we are all fucked.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[theking]

I have been aware of the California drought...I was also aware that water was being denied because of the smelt. I did not realize how serious the matter had become to the farmers and I still believe the 90% denial of water that Glen Beck stated simply cannot be true...as that would virtually end California's farming in the Agricultual belt...and would effect the entire Nation.

[2012]

let's hear it for Glenn Beck. The voice of the People !

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

Originally Posted by fusionx

When the water goes down low enough, maybe they'll find the body of a girl that Glenn Beck may have raped and murdered in 1990.

[munki]

Originally Posted by jollyperv

No problem, they can just use Brawndo instead, it's got what plants crave

[WebCompanyInc]

The Glen Becker show is for inbreds and closet homosexuals.. The guy is an idiot.

[Dirty Dane]

Global warming sucks. As predicted. I guess humanity is about to learn the lession now.

[GotGauge]

In July 2009, action by the Federal Bureau of Reclamation to protect threatened fish stopped irrigation pumping to parts of the California Central Valley causing canals leading into Huron, California and the surrounding areas and the farms that rely on them to lose their primary irrigation source. Unemployment has reached 40% in some areas as the farms have dried up.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Governme...atened_species


The Central Valley is a large, flat valley that dominates the central portion of the U.S. state of California. It is home to many of California's most productive agricultural efforts. The valley stretches approximately 400 miles (640 km) from north to south. Its northern half is referred to as the Sacramento Valley, and its southern half as the San Joaquin Valley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Central_Valley

Map of California Central Valley
http://images.google.com/images?q=Ca...N&hl=en&tab=wi

[theking]

Originally Posted by GotGauge

In July 2009, action by the Federal Bureau of Reclamation to protect threatened fish stopped irrigation pumping to parts of the California Central Valley causing canals leading into Huron, California and the surrounding areas and the farms that rely on them to lose their primary irrigation source. Unemployment has reached 40% in some areas as the farms have dried up.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Governme...atened_species


The Central Valley is a large, flat valley that dominates the central portion of the U.S. state of California. It is home to many of California's most productive agricultural efforts. The valley stretches approximately 400 miles (640 km) from north to south. Its northern half is referred to as the Sacramento Valley, and its southern half as the San Joaquin Valley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Central_Valley

Map of California Central Valley
http://images.google.com/images?q=Ca...N&hl=en&tab=wi

I used to live in California and I am very familiar with the Agricultural belt of California...but for those that are not your post should be informative to them.

[StickyGreen]

[Licentious]

Originally Posted by theking

...that the government has shut off 90% of the farmers water in the Agricultural belt of the state to protect some kind of smelt. This cannot possibly be true as the farmers simply cannot produce crops...period...if 90% of their water has been denied to them.

Does anyone in California know anything about this?

California has not had 90% of its water shut off, though we have had water rationing as were experiecing a drought. We have residential watering days (mon/wed/fri) for our lawns. Glenn Beck speaks nothing but PURE truth, remember?

[Exotic Gold]

Originally Posted by jollyperv

No problem, they can just use Brawndo instead, it's got what plants crave

Electrolytes?

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Licentious

California has not had 90% of its water shut off, though we have had water rationing as were experiecing a drought. We have residential watering days (mon/wed/fri) for our lawns. Glenn Beck speaks nothing but PURE truth, remember?

Um, he was referring to water to the farmers, not overall water to residents, lol.

[Pleasurepays]

why wouldn't a bankrupt state devastate one of their main industries at this point? i mean they're selling government shit on craigslist to make money. is anything else a surprise at this point?

[ottyhotties]

http://www.usbr.gov/newsroom/newsrel...RecordID=27761
http://californiafarmer.com/story.aspx?s=21958&c=9

I don't know where the 90 percent comes from Beck used either. It could be he got it from the above Bureau of Reclamation: Central Valley Project where it says 10% or 15% water for Ag. depending on run off and precipitation might be, etc., etc.,...

I don't know where the total percentage comes from it doesn't really explain the numbers in specificity; (municipal and industrial is based on historical deliveries) so I would guess Ag is similar to them too. I don't know?

The second link is from the spring numbers and it had Ag possibly getting zero water and these numbers/percentages seem based on some kind of compact/contract between states and a watershed agreement they have with companies.

[DonovanTrent]

Originally Posted by ottyhotties

I don't know where the 90 percent comes from Beck used either.

Like most of his distortions, he pulled it out of his ass.

With THIS finger.

[onwebcam]

Glenn Beck has $50 million dollar contract to jumble up the truth. A prime example of MSM/government propaganda. The objective is to take control of public concern topics and steer people in the direction they want them to go. Simply put he'll give you some truths to build up your trust and when certain topics need to be steered in another direction he's there to be the leader. The tea party movement is a prime example. It was originally a grassroots effort now taken over by Glen Beck and fox.

Now that it's pretty evident the Federal Reserve is either going to be at the least audited and/or dissolved altogether Glen can come out with the new scam telling his followers it's a good thing and everyone should accept it and go along.

[DWB]

Does Glenn Beck still post here?

[donteattuna]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Global warming sucks. As predicted. I guess humanity is about to learn the lession now.

dude, I don't blame you for thinking there is global warming due to what's being preached by some people with an agenda and earning money by that. But actually there is more proof that there is no global warming, than there is to support it.

[theking]

Originally Posted by donteattuna

dude, I don't blame you for thinking there is global warming due to what's being preached by some people with an agenda and earning money by that. But actually there is more proof that there is no global warming, than there is to support it.

It is my understanding that few scientists...if any...think that there isn't global warming...the argument is over if it is man made...or not. I have no doubt in my mind that man is certainly a contributor.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by theking

...that the government has shut off 90% of the farmers water in the Agricultural belt of the state to protect some kind of smelt. This cannot possibly be true as the farmers simply cannot produce crops...period...if 90% of their water has been denied to them.

Does anyone in California know anything about this?

Glenn Beck is a retard. Anyone believing anything he has to say should just kill themselves. Beck, Hannity, O'riley and Limbaugh all dying in the same plan crash would be the best thing to happen to this country is years.

[theking]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Glenn Beck is a retard. Anyone believing anything he has to say should just kill themselves. Beck, Hannity, O'riley and Limbaugh all dying in the same plan crash would be the best thing to happen to this country is years.

No...he is not a retard. He...Hannity, O'riley and Limbaugh are very good at what they do and are about...and that is to line their pockets and garner fame/infamy.

[Blackamooka]

Glenn Beck is fucking awesome. It's like watching Stephen Colbert, except for he actually believes the shit that's coming out of his mouth.

[onwebcam]

California's Man-Made Drought

California has a new endangered species on its hands in the San Joaquin Valley—farmers. Thanks to environmental regulations designed to protect the likes of the three-inch long delta smelt, one of America's premier agricultural regions is suffering in a drought made worse by federal regulations.

The state's water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a "biological opinion" imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.

For this, Californians can thank the usual environmental suspects, er, lawyers. Last year's government ruling was the result of a 2006 lawsuit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and other outfits objecting to increased water pumping in the smelt vicinity. In June, things got even dustier when the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that local salmon and steelhead also needed to be defended from the valley's water pumps. Those additional restrictions will begin to effect pumping operations next year.

The result has already been devastating for the state's farm economy. In the inland areas affected by the court-ordered water restrictions, the jobless rate has hit 14.3%, with some farming towns like Mendota seeing unemployment numbers near 40%. Statewide, the rate reached 11.6% in July, higher than it has been in 30 years. In August, 50 mayors from the San Joaquin Valley signed a letter asking President Obama to observe the impact of the draconian water rules firsthand.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has said that he "doesn't have the authority to turn on the pumps" that would supply the delta with water, or "otherwise, they would be on." He did, however, have the ability to request intervention from the Department of Interior. Under a provision added to the Endangered Species Act in 1978 after the snail darter fiasco, a panel of seven cabinet officials known as a "God Squad" is able to intercede in economic emergencies, such as the one now parching California farmers. Despite a petition with more than 12,000 signers, Mr. Schwarzenegger has refused that remedy.

The issue now turns to the Obama Administration and the courts, though the farmers have so far found scant hope for relief from the White House.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

Based on this image.. I don't think there's much water left to pump anyway..

looks fun for motorcrossing

[MetaMan]

Welcome to the New World Order

[twinkley]

SRSLY!

I heard that ....

OMG WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE! RUN! HIDE!

Oh wait, it could just be that you are listening to glen beck /rollingeyes

[CDSmith]

Smelt? I would have thought they'd be diverting water to fight all the crazy fires going on down south.

Gotta save the smelt though.

[donteattuna]

Originally Posted by theking

It is my understanding that few scientists...if any...think that there isn't global warming...the argument is over if it is man made...or not. I have no doubt in my mind that man is certainly a contributor.

well, your understanding is incorrect.

[theking]

Originally Posted by donteattuna

well, your understanding is incorrect.

I disagree.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by donteattuna

well, your understanding is incorrect.

Everyone talking about global warming but no one knows what they're talking about. Climate change is happening throughout our entire solar system right now, the polar ice caps on Mars even melted recently and there are new rings of energy surrounding planets like Jupiter. All of this has to do with changes in our star (the Sun) and has very little to do with human beings and CO2. Are human beings polluting the Earth? Yes of course. Are they directly responsible for "global warming," lol of course not. The powers that be just want to exploit this natural process and rape you with ridiculous carbon taxes and tell you how many kids you can have.

[donteattuna]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Everyone talking about global warming but no one knows what they're talking about. Climate change is happening throughout our entire solar system right now, the polar ice caps on Mars even melted recently and there are new rings of energy surrounding planets like Jupiter. All of this has to do with changes in our star (the Sun) and has very little to do with human beings and CO2. Are human beings polluting the Earth? Yes of course. Are they directly responsible for "global warming," lol of course not. The powers that be just want to exploit this natural process and rape you with ridiculous carbon taxes and tell you how many kids you can have.

thanks, yes. He starts this thread again stating he doesn't believe what he is told. It is like the other thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=922678
where a guy said he was an engineer working on a project, and he said he doesn't believe a word of it
so what do you think his response to the 'no scientists say otherwise' would be if I told him I am an atmospheric scientist, and I just told him ?
It's all about money, and if you disagree with the Al Gore Greenpeace theme, you will be fired. I'm not currently employed as an atmospheric scientist, and am enjoying trying my hand at porn (no pun intended). So I can speak freely now.
I don't care to go back and forth with the self proclaimed "king" like the engineer on his other thread. To date the only evidence I've heard that might support that whole global warming theory is a rise in sea surface temperatures by what, 1degree or less? But study atmospheric ocean interactions, southern oscillations, eckman transports etc etc, and it isn't really clear such things as a 1degree rise meaning much. It helps indicate starting or ending of el nino's or la nina's. I still wouldn't drink the "warming" cool aide though. And if there is warming, could it be most likely due to natural causes! This post was for others reading this thread, as I'm certain the king will claim I have no idea who I am what I've done or what I'm talking about

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by donteattuna

thanks, yes. He starts this thread again stating he doesn't believe what he is told. It is like the other thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=922678
where a guy said he was an engineer working on a project, and he said he doesn't believe a word of it
so what do you think his response to the 'no scientists say otherwise' would be if I told him I am an atmospheric scientist, and I just told him ?
It's all about money, and if you disagree with the Al Gore Greenpeace theme, you will be fired. I'm not currently employed as an atmospheric scientist, and am enjoying trying my hand at porn (no pun intended). So I can speak freely now.
I don't care to go back and forth with the self proclaimed "king" like the engineer on his other thread. To date the only evidence I've heard that might support that whole global warming theory is a rise in sea surface temperatures by what, 1degree or less? But study atmospheric ocean interactions, southern oscillations, eckman transports etc etc, and it isn't really clear such things as a 1degree rise meaning much. It helps indicate starting or ending of el nino's or la nina's. I still wouldn't drink the "warming" cool aide though. And if there is warming, could it be most likely due to natural causes! This post was for others reading this thread, as I'm certain the king will claim I have no idea who I am what I've done or what I'm talking about

Good luck in your venture. Hopefully before too much damage is done we can break through this web of mass deception and you can get back to your life's work.

[fatfoo]

That's hot.

[Penthouse Tony]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Um, there is some truth to this.

I don't know all of the details, but the main freeway between Sacramento / San Fran and Southern California is I-5, which is mostly farm land. There are signs all along the freeway that say something like "no water, no farms". I forget exactly what they say, but I remember seeing them last time and I looked it up when I got home. But it's something about how the government has diverted water from that area to some place else, fucking up the farms in the area.

A quick search turned up this:
http://www.farmwater.org/

(Not that I give a fuck what Glen Beck says.)

I saw those same signs a few weeks ago driving home to the Bay Area from LA.

[directfiesta]

Can they shut it off for the whole country ?