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cambaby · 12-06-2009, 12:44 AM

Ive been doing some research on some big sites and I see a few of you got hammered by the new Google search algorithm. Hows it been treating the rest of ya?

I notice sites that use heavy directory /keywords/ are brutally affected.

Maybe Hoes.com
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hoes.com

Ouch

Jdoughs · 12-06-2009, 12:49 AM

Google Caffeine is only live on one datacenter, so I'm pretty certain it has little to do with hoes.com's alexa from last 10-14 days.

Also, on that one datacenter, its only being used about 50% of the page loads.

cambaby · 12-06-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Google Caffeine is only live on one datacenter, so I'm pretty certain it has little to do with hoes.com's alexa from last 10-14 days.

Also, on that one datacenter, its only being used about 50% of the page loads.

Thats whats being reported but do some research, Im pretty sure its on more than one DC right now.

I hope you are right about Hoes.com they are good people hate to see them get screwed.

fatfoo · 12-06-2009, 12:55 AM

What's Google Caffeine? Anyone can explain? I don't even know.

cambaby · 12-06-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

What's Google Caffeine? Anyone can explain? I don't even know.

A complete rewrite of Googles search engine technology. It will be 100% live after the 1st of the year. its the biggest change in Google search ever, pretty serious shit. Google it

dav3 · 12-06-2009, 01:04 AM

would be nice if they didnt take that sandbox down. or is it up somewhere else?

ArsewithClass · 12-06-2009, 01:07 AM

Fatfoo, im with you, I havnt heard of google caffeine as im too busy working... I know my caffeine is work!

Im here at 8.05 and I havnt slept after working on my latest scene. Editing at night is easy as the day is too loud!

Good luck with google caffeine boys and girls

cambaby · 12-06-2009, 01:08 AM

This one is returning the new search results 50% of the time, confirmed
http://209.85.225.103

Jdoughs · 12-06-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

This one is returning the new search results 50% of the time, confirmed
http://209.85.225.103

I wasn't kidding..lol

cambaby · 12-06-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

I wasn't kidding..lol

Yeah but Im getting it on other DCs too occasionally, so they are rolling it out.

Not only that but have you guys seen this
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/...-everyone.html

Basically in a nutshell if you search at google and you are not signed in it will give you personal results, so much for anonymous searchers discovering new pages once they have their set stable of sites and search preferences automatically set by Google.

This company needs to die now.

V_RocKs · 12-06-2009, 02:02 AM

working well for me.

CunningStunt · 12-06-2009, 02:20 AM

Not seeing much of a change here yet, but then Australia is always the last to get anything.

http://mashable.com/2009/11/10/google-caffeine-soon/ - Matt Cutts video there.

CunningStunt · 12-06-2009, 02:32 AM

Before and after caffeine results: http://comparegoogle.com/

Forget that, doesn't work.

Vendot · 12-06-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Basically in a nutshell if you search at google and you are not signed in it will give you personal results, so much for anonymous searchers discovering new pages once they have their set stable of sites and search preferences automatically set by Google.

So how do you stop seeing personalised results?

d-null · 12-06-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Yeah but Im getting it on other DCs too occasionally, so they are rolling it out.

Not only that but have you guys seen this
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/...-everyone.html

Basically in a nutshell if you search at google and you are not signed in it will give you personal results, so much for anonymous searchers discovering new pages once they have their set stable of sites and search preferences automatically set by Google.

This company needs to die now.

agree with you, they do some pretty scummy shit

Davy · 12-06-2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Maybe Hoes.com
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hoes.com

A bit early to tell, but still ooops!

Another one biting the dust?

Davy · 12-06-2009, 04:45 AM

http://www.comparecaffeine.com/
use "site:yourdomain.com" (and sit down before you do it. The shock might floor you.)

Without caffeine:
Results 1 - 10 of about 475,000 from mydomain.com
With caffeine:
Results 1 - 10 of about 58,200 from mydomain.com

rowan · 12-06-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendot

So how do you stop seeing personalised results?

Periodically delete Google's cookies.

bns666 · 12-06-2009, 07:21 AM

i had a huge problem with google rankings in june/july on a site which had 4k uniques from google daily and that dropped to around 2k.

returned back in the last 2 months and now site receives almost 6k from google daily.

The Duck · 12-06-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

A complete rewrite of Googles search engine technology. It will be 100% live after the 1st of the year. its the biggest change in Google search ever, pretty serious shit. Google it

Sounds pretty cool

Agent 488 · 12-06-2009, 08:13 AM

one data center 50% of the time until the new year.

didn't see much oif a change. although i think it will index and refresh results quicker to compete with twitter.

burntfilm · 12-06-2009, 08:17 AM

Some of the personalized search stuff seems limiting on the surface...

WiredGuy · 12-06-2009, 12:39 PM

I'm not seeing many changes between the two versions yet.
WG

d-null · 12-06-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by burntfilm

Some of the personalized search stuff seems limiting on the surface...

it will do an even better job of ensuring that surfers get to find their torrents and stolen content tubesites and forums even easier

cyco_cc · 12-06-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

it will do an even better job of ensuring that surfers get to find their torrents and stolen content tubesites and forums even easier

That is true, however I doubt that type of surfer is having a problem at all right now, anyway...

marketsmart · 12-06-2009, 01:02 PM

the major etailers asked google to wait until after the holliday season to fully implement caffeine..

i dont think caffeine is being used for every other search, but we'll know for sure in 26 more days...

tiger · 12-06-2009, 01:06 PM

Google is pretty good at correcting problems if there is a dramatic shift for a large group of quality sites.

I would bet that when all is said and done there will be little movement for the quality sites but the junk ones will get hit hard.

CyberHustler · 12-06-2009, 01:19 PM

Babaganoosh · 12-06-2009, 06:30 PM

If shit goes live in its present form I am going to be getting a nice raise in 2010. Some of my sites are showing almost twice as many indexed pages.

vyper88 · 12-06-2009, 06:40 PM

it smashed one of my online stores... fml.

vink · 12-06-2009, 10:45 PM

I wonder how this is going to effect blogs that use the "all in one seo pack"? My blog traffic is way down. But it's been like that before several times and then comes back.

xxxjay · 12-07-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Thats whats being reported but do some research, Im pretty sure its on more than one DC right now.

I hope you are right about Hoes.com they are good people hate to see them get screwed.

I agree. One of the last good sites left. Marc is a super smart guy.

Davy · 12-07-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger

I would bet that when all is said and done there will be little movement for the quality sites but the junk ones will get hit hard.

I would not count on that. Google needs those spam sites.
They are full with adsense code, which in turn makes google money.
Google has NO interest in removing pointless adsense-spam from their index.

Jdoughs · 12-07-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vyper88

it smashed one of my online stores... fml.

No it didn't.

ITS NOT LIVE YET.

There is ONE datacenter showing results 50% of the time. They will NOT roll out any more until after January begins.

Caffeine has not effected any of you yet.

Jdoughs · 12-07-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

If shit goes live in its present form I am going to be getting a nice raise in 2010. Some of my sites are showing almost twice as many indexed pages.

No changes I can see on any of my sites. Even the site: searches return almost identical results.

Tip #1, build quality sites.

Raf1 · 12-07-2009, 04:23 AM

so far so good for me

Babaganoosh · 12-07-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

No changes I can see on any of my sites. Even the site: searches return almost identical results.

Tip #1, build quality sites.

That sounds like a bad tip. These sites are dynamically generated sites based on a users location and how they click when they hit the front page. There are thousands of "pages" on each site. These are definitely not quality sites. They are no more than a little spun text and data pulled from a couple of sources and slathered with local ads. Like I said, if this goes live I am in luck.

My "real" sites are showing very little change.

Jdoughs · 12-07-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

That sounds like a bad tip. These sites are dynamically generated sites based on a users location and how they click when they hit the front page. There are thousands of "pages" on each site. These are definitely not quality sites. They are no more than a little spun text and data pulled from a couple of sources and slathered with local ads. Like I said, if this goes live I am in luck.

My "real" sites are showing very little change.

Spidered isn't listed, as you well know. Most likely those are pages that are being shown are because the update is in development and soon to be rolled out, its spidered and indexed chunks of the web it usually wont touch. It's looking for the most amount of data to use in its algo.

Once the update rolls live, most of that fluff will get cleared out. Just like the last 6-7 major updates they have done.

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cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	So hows Google Caffeine treating you? Ive been doing some research on some big sites and I see a few of you got hammered by the new Google search algorithm. Hows it been treating the rest of ya? I notice sites that use heavy directory /keywords/ are brutally affected. Maybe Hoes.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/hoes.com Ouch

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