Will the DirtyD scandal be good for CCBill?

[weekly]

I think it just might....

[Agent 488]

i just think everyone will forget about the scandal like the hundreds that have proceeded it.

[BillyHoe]

I don't think the Dirty D scandal alone will help, but as more and more sponsors stop paying out, pay out late, or selectively payout, it's going to reflex really bad on programs who do their own payouts in house.
Sometimes holding affiliates money is too much power for some people to have. Which is a shame cause there's alot of honest program out there doing their own in house payouts but a few bad apples could potentially hurt them. imho

[Va2k]

I would only TRUST well known sponsors like the one in my sig or just stick to ccbill.. Before you jump my shit tushycash.com is only ccbill and some epoch on a few sites.

[ShellyCrash]

The Dirty D situation only reflects poorly on Dirty D.

Some of the largest programs out there are stand alone and don't go through CCBill or Epoch.

I don't think the actions of one sponsor in any way speak for the stability of other programs.

[ganjaman]

mattel will be selling like a hell now ...

[The Porn Nerd]

Refresher course on the Dirty D 'scandal' please? Tanks!

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Refresher course on the Dirty D 'scandal' please? Tanks!

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/941614-affiliates-beware-paying-program-howigotrich.html

[The King of Pop]

Who is this Dirty D guy

[LoveSandra]

Originally Posted by The King of Pop

Who is this Dirty D guy

[BillyHoe]

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

The Dirty D situation only reflects poorly on Dirty D.

Some of the largest programs out there are stand alone and don't go through CCBill or Epoch.

I don't think the actions of one sponsor in any way speak for the stability of other programs.

It's more than one program unfortunately. In the past 8 days I've seen 4 or 5 new sponsors aren't paying me threads, or sponsor is paying me late.
For the affiliates that have been around a long time they know who they can trust and who the new programs are but for people who are new, I can see a whole new trust issue rising.

[fmltube]

After all the shit that came out in that thread about Dirty D, I honestly think payouts is the least of his fucking problems. Dude stealing someone's content and filming underage girls is far fucking more scarier than not paying your affiliates. Money is one thing but exposing your affiliates to underage content that was on his site for a year can land not only him but everyone who promoted using that content in jail for distribution of child porn.

What's even scarier, Dirty D will come back, maybe even pay Shoehorn and then its back to business as usual. Everyone will forget the underage shooting, using untested performers off the street, stealing someone else's work, etc... until the next scandal with this asshole breaks when all this shit will be brought up again at that time.

That to me says a lot about our business. More people are outraged that Shoehorn did not get paid than there are people pissed that they were marketing his shit using content that featured a 17 year old performer or that he (if true) managed to steal all of whore monger's crackwhoreconfessions content without appropriate compensation.

[CPimp]

Oh boy... I just left another online industry because affiliates don't pay and now all this shit?

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by BillyHoe

It's more than one program unfortunately. In the past 8 days I've seen 4 or 5 new sponsors aren't paying me threads, or sponsor is paying me late.

I will admit, seeing this stuff, especially when it comes right around the holidays is a HUGE bummer for me. This is really the time of year when people need money the most.

I understand if a program is going under they have no money to make their payouts, but if that's the case they need to fucking man up about it. You can't let your business go to the point where you can't afford to pay people the money they are owed. It's completely irresponsible and if that's what's happening here I suspect some major bridges will be burned.

When someone logs in to their account and sees their earnings / commission due they tend to start to budget for that money before the check has been received.

Originally Posted by BillyHoe

For the affiliates that have been around a long time they know who they can trust and who the new programs are but for people who are new, I can see a whole new trust issue rising.

I hope that's not the case. I would hate to see the actions of the few taint the industry to have negative repercussions for the many.

[Agent 488]

"our business?" your hosting is suspended for non-payment. you have no business.

if you think this is shady take a walk over to mainstream affiliate boards where everyone is getting sued into oblivion right now. adult is filled with saints in comparison to the shit that goes on in the non-adult online business world.

Originally Posted by fmltube

After all the shit that came out in that thread about Dirty D, I honestly think payouts is the least of his fucking problems. Dude stealing someone's content and filming underage girls is far fucking more scarier than not paying your affiliates. Money is one thing but exposing your affiliates to underage content that was on his site for a year can land not only him but everyone who promoted using that content in jail for distribution of child porn.

What's even scarier, Dirty D will come back, maybe even pay Shoehorn and then its back to business as usual. Everyone will forget the underage shooting, using untested performers off the street, stealing someone else's work, etc... until the next scandal with this asshole breaks when all this shit will be brought up again at that time.

That to me says a lot about our business. More people are outraged that Shoehorn did not get paid than there are people pissed that they were marketing his shit using content that featured a 17 year old performer or that he (if true) managed to steal all of whore monger's crackwhoreconfessions content without appropriate compensation.

[SleazyDream]

i think dirty D should feature shoehorn on fuck a fan now

[Agent 488]

the big programs are still paying like clockwork.

[fmltube]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

"our business?goes on " your hosting is suspended. you have no business.

if you think this is shady take a walk over to mainstream affiliate boards where everyone is getting sued into oblivion right now. adult is filled with saints in comparison to the shit that in the non-adult online business world.

How many times do I have to tell you directly we are doing something else with it and we are moving to a new host. Its nothing more than we just haven't re-parked the page.

Saints or not, I am pretty fucking sure no one in mainstream is using under-aged minors in the production of adult content so don't be so quick to place adult on a pedestal.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Really at the end of the day, I don't give a shit about any of it.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

if you think this is shady take a walk over to mainstream affiliate boards where everyone is getting sued into oblivion right now. adult is filled with saints in comparison to the shit that goes on in the non-adult online business world.

mainstream has the same hidden x-sales and upsells x10...

most of the suing going down in mainstream has to do with small companies milking the reputation of authority trademarks. not really a surprise. fuck with oprah and google and you're bound to get bitchslapped...

this is internet, 82.67% of everything is shady as fuck. is it really a surprise?

anyone who is online and actually making money, is somewhere in their operation doing something, that someone, somewhere, thinks is a shady practice. the more money you're making, the more rules you're probably bending. it's the way it is. whitehat is a myth, it does not exist...

[CPimp]

AngryJewCat's signature line " stirring the gfy shitpot. i smell a shitstorm brewing, and the shitclouds are starting to roll in..." is about the best way to describe all of these threads lately

[Press Release Pro]

Originally Posted by weekly

I think it just might....

Yes, especially because ccbill does not even process for crackwhoreconfessions.... IDIOT

[CPimp]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

mainstream has the same hidden x-sales and upsells x10...

most of the suing going down in mainstream has to do with small companies milking the reputation of authority trademarks. not really a surprise. fuck with oprah and google and you're bound to get bitchslapped...

this is internet, 82.67% of everything is shady as fuck.

Yep.... google suing all them "make $47 an hour with google" bullshits. They deserve it.

I'm done here. Off to another thread.

[Press Release Pro]

Originally Posted by fmltube

After all the shit that came out in that thread about Dirty D, I honestly think payouts is the least of his fucking problems. Dude stealing someone's content and filming underage girls is far fucking more scarier than not paying your affiliates. Money is one thing but exposing your affiliates to underage content that was on his site for a year can land not only him but everyone who promoted using that content in jail for distribution of child porn.

What's even scarier, Dirty D will come back, maybe even pay Shoehorn and then its back to business as usual. Everyone will forget the underage shooting, using untested performers off the street, stealing someone else's work, etc... until the next scandal with this asshole breaks when all this shit will be brought up again at that time.

That to me says a lot about our business. More people are outraged that Shoehorn did not get paid than there are people pissed that they were marketing his shit using content that featured a 17 year old performer or that he (if true) managed to steal all of whore monger's crackwhoreconfessions content without appropriate compensation.

Calling someone a Pedo, Refferring to them as a Pedo, Stating they promote Pedo, posting of Pedo links, and Death Threats are now grounds for immediate banning.


Any mods around ? How the hell can that kind of slander be accepted on a business forum

[xenigo]

Originally Posted by fmltube

How many times do I have to tell you directly we are doing something else with it and we are moving to a new host. Its nothing more than we just haven't re-parked the page.

What could you be doing with it that would result in the site being offline? You said before that you're changing hosts. You also said you're having the site redesigned. I've changed hosts and had my sites redesigned, and neither of those things resulted in any downtime.

You don't have to take sites offline for either of those things.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/941614-affiliates-beware-paying-program-howigotrich.html

holyshit thats a lot of pages to read

All i got there was that DirtyD willfully ripped off a small affiliate that generated legit sales.

[Shoehorn!]

Originally Posted by tube2k

AngryJewCat's signature line " stirring the gfy shitpot. i smell a shitstorm brewing, and the shitclouds are starting to roll in..." is about the best way to describe all of these threads lately

You haven't taken the time to actually READ the thread have you?

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by fmltube

Saints or not, I am pretty fucking sure no one in mainstream is using under-aged minors in the production of adult content so don't be so quick to place adult on a pedestal.

If you have such a negative opinion of the adult industry why are you even posting on this board? There are professionals here, and every industry has some bad seeds.

Sorry but I can't stand it when people come here and work in adult and bash online porn like it is so bad. There are some of the most intelligent and successful people in business ever in adult. If the sex stuff bothers you try another industry. But there are horny perverts in mainstream too. At least in adult nobody is hiding their perversions.

[weekly]

Originally Posted by Press Release Pro

Yes, especially because ccbill does not even process for crackwhoreconfessions.... IDIOT

I will guarantee you one thing. You are not, nor ever will be a press release pro.

[weekly]

I would only TRUST well known sponsors

Bernie Madoff was well known as well. Be very careful. Oh yeah, and he paid out like clockwork until....well you know...he ran out of money.

[fmltube]

Originally Posted by xenigo

What could you be doing with it that would result in the site being offline? You said before that you're changing hosts. You also said you're having the site redesigned. I've changed hosts and had my sites redesigned, and neither of those things resulted in any downtime.

You don't have to take sites offline for either of those things.

We are moving to an Air app based solution and it makes no sense to launch anything until the app is finished.

[fmltube]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

If you have such a negative opinion of the adult industry why are you even posting on this board? There are professionals here, and every industry has some bad seeds.

Sorry but I can't stand it when people come here and work in adult and bash online porn like it is so bad. There are some of the most intelligent and successful people in business ever in adult. If the sex stuff bothers you try another industry. But there are horny perverts in mainstream too. At least in adult nobody is hiding their perversions.

There's nothing wrong with sex or even the perversions. But if you do not see the reason for concern that a producer has an allegation that he knowingly shot an underage model and then had this content on his site for an entire year which affiliates used to promote for his site, then I am concerned for you. There is nothing wrong with porn online or as a business. The issues I take is when businesses participate in shit that makes it even harder to gain any legitimacy or exposes those that market for them to something that can potentially affect their right to freedom.

Its not the bad seeds that bothers me, its the apparent acceptance of those bad seeds that allows them to remain and have the negative impact. Look at the situation for what it is. Those articles about that chick and Dirty D are a year old....yet that was not seen as a big deal. But Shoehorn gets screwed and you'd have thought the world had collapsed. It gives a very bad perception that adult does not care if those allegations are true of the underage performer but don't pay your affiliate and we have total meltdown and hangings. Its the lack of reaction to meaningful issues that is the problem.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by weekly

I will guarantee you one thing. You are not, nor ever will be a press release pro.

nice

[fmltube]

Originally Posted by Press Release Pro

Calling someone a Pedo, Refferring to them as a Pedo, Stating they promote Pedo, posting of Pedo links, and Death Threats are now grounds for immediate banning.


Any mods around ? How the hell can that kind of slander be accepted on a business forum

The information is out there dumb ass. Do you have any idea how to do some research on your own? I feel very badly for anyone that receives your "press release" service.

[Agent 488]

Please contact the billing department as soon as possible.

[fmltube]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

Please contact the billing department as soon as possible.

Please gloryhole with Dirty D immediately.

[beemk]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i think dirty D should feature shoehorn on fuck a fan now

shoehorn undoubtedly likes to be fucked by men, but not in the way you are talking about.

[Les Grossman]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

i just think everyone will forget about the scandal like the hundreds that have proceeded it.

[Les Grossman]

Originally Posted by fmltube

After all the shit that came out in that thread about Dirty D, I honestly think payouts is the least of his fucking problems. Dude stealing someone's content and filming underage girls is far fucking more scarier than not paying your affiliates. Money is one thing but exposing your affiliates to underage content that was on his site for a year can land not only him but everyone who promoted using that content in jail for distribution of child porn.

What's even scarier, Dirty D will come back, maybe even pay Shoehorn and then its back to business as usual. Everyone will forget the underage shooting, using untested performers off the street, stealing someone else's work, etc... until the next scandal with this asshole breaks when all this shit will be brought up again at that time.

That to me says a lot about our business. More people are outraged that Shoehorn did not get paid than there are people pissed that they were marketing his shit using content that featured a 17 year old performer or that he (if true) managed to steal all of whore monger's crackwhoreconfessions content without appropriate compensation.

Welcome to porn. Nobody cares about anything here, other than a few cry baby - keyboard warriors.

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by fmltube

How many times do I have to tell you directly we are doing something else with it and we are moving to a new host. Its nothing more than we just haven't re-parked the page.

So remove the link to it in your sig. It just makes you look like an idiot, which constantly bringing up the unproven "underage" thing does nothing to contradict btw.

[Tjeezers]

95% of the surfers here are sex surfers