Rock Club Website I Designed - Thoughts? - GoFuckYourself.com

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 03:48 PM

I designed and coded this ... kinda like it ...

What you think? Any suggestions to rock it up?

hehe

http://www.theagincourt.com/

I do web design too btw ... I just don't generally advertise that in adult as mainstream is more lucrative for the time/money ...

I'm not against doing designs tho.

PerrieBelle · 01-13-2010, 03:56 PM

I love that rock club :P <3

NaughtyRob · 01-13-2010, 04:08 PM

Very simple and nice. Loads fast. Good job.

Big John · 01-13-2010, 04:12 PM

As above - does the job perfectly and looks clean and smart.

BFT3K · 01-13-2010, 04:25 PM

Looks good man!

Nookster · 01-13-2010, 04:26 PM

Meh, loads quick and all but it's average.

I do like some of your other stuff though.

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

Meh, loads quick and all but it's average.

Thanks for the opinion. It made me take a look at your site.

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:D hehe

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 04:33 PM

Thanks guys ... appreciate that

I'm considering taking on some adult design work again but I dunno ... depends if it's worth the time.

Nookster · 01-13-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

Thanks for the opinion. It made me take a look at your site.

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:D hehe

Jackass. I guess I'll not hold back now. You're shit sucks ass. Just take a look for yourself. Dumbass.

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

Jackass. I guess I'll not hold back now. You're shit sucks ass. Just take a look for yourself. Dumbass.

LOL! Dude ... seriously. I was only poking a little fun

No need to be so over the top. But it's cool that you don't like my stuff. It's not for everyone. I value your opinion.

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 04:41 PM

Nookster

I didn't mean to offend you. I guess we both just feel each other's work is average. It's no big deal. I wanted opinions, and you gave yours. It's all good

Nookster · 01-13-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

LOL! Dude ... seriously. I was only poking a little fun

No need to be so over the top. But it's cool that you don't like my stuff. It's not for everyone. I value your opinion.

Dude, I like your other stuff but you got all butt-hurt when I mentioned that. No need to act like you weren't...it's obvious. I still respect your work bro. No disrespect from me. Sorry for resenting your comments.

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 04:44 PM

I promise you I didn't get all butt-hurt ... lol ... man, I never even heard that before

But no ... I'm cool with it. I don't expect everyone to think my stuff is good all the time. Some people love and some people hate. It's like big tits ... I hate them. Some guys love em!

Peace out

ThumbLord · 01-13-2010, 04:57 PM

I like it, as in it does looks ok, loads fast and heh .......... but it looks average

Nookster · 01-13-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

I promise you I didn't get all butt-hurt ... lol ... man, I never even heard that before

But no ... I'm cool with it. I don't expect everyone to think my stuff is good all the time. Some people love and some people hate. It's like big tits ... I hate them. Some guys love em!

Peace out

Haha that was classic. You have a good point. To anyone who's looking at this, this guy's got what you need. Hire him asap.

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 05:02 PM

LOL! I guess they'll like my shit if they like small tits. LOL!

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord

I like it, as in it does looks ok, loads fast and heh .......... but it looks average

Not bad for an evening's work tho surely?!

hehe. Cheers for your opinion man.

StaceyJo · 01-13-2010, 05:49 PM

I like it because its black. Good job!

The Porn Nerd · 01-13-2010, 06:20 PM

Looks great mate - now I wanna go see dem Bob Shepards!

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Looks great mate - now I wanna go see dem Bob Shepards!

How cool is it? Thrash Mandolin !!! :D LOL! Ade Edmondson is genius

Supz · 01-13-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

It's like big tits ... I hate them. Some guys love em!

Peace out

he was right, you are a jackasss. hahah. j/k site looks good imo

POed-poster · 01-13-2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

I designed and coded this ... kinda like it ...

What you think? Any suggestions to rock it up?

hehe

http://www.theagincourt.com/

I do web design too btw ... I just don't generally advertise that in adult as mainstream is more lucrative for the time/money ...

I'm not against doing designs tho.

I am a writer/musician who works with bands and stuff. We should talk. What is this site for?

POed-poster · 01-13-2010, 06:48 PM

Twisted Dave VS Nookster

Wow! That was the quickest kiss and make up I ever done seen. Only three posts - Must be a record for GFY!

Twisted Dave · 01-13-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

he was right, you are a jackasss. hahah. j/k site looks good imo

LOL! Thanks man

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Originally Posted by POed-poster

I am a writer/musician who works with bands and stuff. We should talk. What is this site for?

It's a club in the UK that we frequent. I do the site for free and they let me in free and I get free drinks all night

Perrie occassionally does photo work down there ... she gets the same perks. We skip queues etc ...

I'm in a band and I've played the Agincourt Stage ... supported Skindred... who rock!

NetHorse · 01-13-2010, 06:54 PM

I sharted...it kind of resembles your work..

wah wah just kidding, looks pretty good for it's purpose.

POed-poster · 01-13-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

LOL! Thanks man

It's a club in the UK that we frequent. I do the site for free and they let me in free and I get free drinks all night

Perrie occassionally does photo work down there ... she gets the same perks. We skip queues etc ...

I'm in a band and I've played the Agincourt Stage ... supported Skindred... who rock!

Cool! We should keep in touch then. What kind of music do you do? Do you have any music related websites? I wish music was like porn with thousands of link lists and all that traffic.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 04:22 AM

TERRIBLE demo quality ... but check out www.myspace.com/spiritofthestate and listen to Best I Could and Fight For You ... they're my favorites. My brother sings on these demos. I wrote and recorded all the music.

DamianJ · 01-14-2010, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

I designed and coded this ... kinda like it ...

What you think? Any suggestions to rock it up?

hehe

http://www.theagincourt.com/

I do web design too btw ... I just don't generally advertise that in adult as mainstream is more lucrative for the time/money ...

I'm not against doing designs tho.

Put the full names of the bands, no? The Rolling Stones, not the Rolling Stones. The Levellers, not Levellers. Etc.

Learn how apostrophes work mate. (All over the place, inc the title tag (where you also have Uk, not UK)):

DJs, not DJ's. Photos, not photo's. Valentine's atmosphere, not Valentines atmosphere. Over 18s, not over 18's. Door staff, not door staff's.

You put them where they shouldn't be and don't put them where they should be!

For easy to get tips on how to use apostrophes, check my blog post: Apostrophe misuse.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Put the full names of the bands, no? The Rolling Stones, not the Rolling Stones. The Levellers, not Levellers. Etc.

Learn how apostrophes work mate. (All over the place, inc the title tag (where you also have Uk, not UK)):

DJs, not DJ's. Photos, not photo's. Valentine's atmosphere, not Valentines atmosphere. Over 18s, not over 18's. Door staff, not door staff's.

You put them where they shouldn't be and don't put them where they should be!

For easy to get tips on how to use apostrophes, check my blog post: Apostrophe misuse.

Thanks for the advice ... but I am asked to simply copy and paste the text ... so I don't really check for that stuff. I guess I could do! But yah, I don't write the copy!

DamianJ · 01-14-2010, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

Thanks for the advice ... but I am asked to simply copy and paste the text ... so I don't really check for that stuff. I guess I could do! But yah, I don't write the copy!

Oh well, forget it then! I mean, who wants to make a site that's actually correct!

Screw it, take the free drinks and the free admission. Never mind if it makes YOU look bad. Free drinks ffs! Woot woot woot.

sojproductions · 01-14-2010, 04:54 AM

damn, i used to go to that place for about ten years, every saturday like clockwork... a small world.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 04:54 AM

What's your problem Damian? Most of your posts are just plain rude.

DamianJ · 01-14-2010, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

What's your problem Damian? Most of your posts are just plain rude.

If you wanted people just to post saying you are brilliant rather than point out the multitude of mistakes on your site you should have said from the get go. Would have saved a lot of time.

Sorry you interpret me taking 10 minutes out of my day to try and help make your site look less like a 14 year old wrote the copy on it as rude.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

If you wanted people just to post saying you are brilliant rather than point out the multitude of mistakes on your site you should have said from the get go. Would have saved a lot of time.

Sorry you interpret me taking 10 minutes out of my day to try and help make your site look less like a 14 year old wrote the copy on it as rude.

I'm quite obviously not talking about the help post. That was fine. But that's in the 10% of posts that are fine. Your response to me was typical of what you've been like recently in a lot of your posts. It's like you throw in a dig for the sake of it.

Dude ... just stop throwing your unique brand of sarcasm around so much is all. It doesn't work. This is a forum. If you're using that in real life and it's working, it must be in the tone of your voice. Because here it's just the opposite of amusing.

Thanks for the help anyway.

DamianJ · 01-14-2010, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Dave

I'm quite obviously not talking about the help post. That was fine. But that's in the 10% of posts that are fine. Your response to me was typical of what you've been like recently in a lot of your posts. It's like you throw in a dig for the sake of it.

Dude ... just stop throwing your unique brand of sarcasm around so much is all. It doesn't work. This is a forum. If you're using that in real life and it's working, it must be in the tone of your voice. Because here it's just the opposite of amusing.

Thanks for the help anyway.

That's awesome, "dude". Thanks for the critique of my board persona. Means a lot you took the time out of your day to read all of my posts here and form an opinion on me from them. Even to work out what % I am sarcastic and stuff. Brilliantly committed to making GFY an even greater place to be.

I think you should start a thread critiquing everyone. It would be really useful.

I shall try and be less sarcastic in the future.

SuzzyQ · 01-14-2010, 05:25 AM

Hubby and I think it looks great. We love it!

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

I shall try and be less sarcastic in the future.

Ok thanks Damian ... much appreciated ;)

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Originally Posted by sojproductions

damn, i used to go to that place for about ten years, every saturday like clockwork... a small world.

Yeah? It's still a fun place to go and I enjoy it. I don't go every week. I'm too busy for that but I go down when I can. Lots of my friends go and it's a good place to have some fun

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

Hubby and I think it looks great. We love it!

Thank You

tranza · 01-14-2010, 09:32 AM

Very nice and clean design...good job!

fatfoo · 01-14-2010, 09:37 AM

Yes, I like this site. I think it is well designed. Nice graphics.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 09:39 AM

Thanks guys. Again, this isn't a praise me thread. I am just proud of it ... simple and clean as it is, it works

I like it

Raf1 · 01-14-2010, 09:40 AM

the "feel" of the site is good but you could change the text errors for your client as well.

Sid70 · 01-14-2010, 09:45 AM

not enough graphics to be called 'design' and too much of text even for web 2.0 look and feel. Who cares tho, if the client is happy.

and, I must agree with Damian too.

BillyHoe · 01-14-2010, 11:58 AM

looks good.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix

not enough graphics to be called 'design' and too much of text even for web 2.0 look and feel. Who cares tho, if the client is happy.

and, I must agree with Damian too.

LOL! Ok man

Amputate Your Head · 01-14-2010, 12:23 PM

Looks good

Big John · 01-14-2010, 04:34 PM

Always interesting how many people think the surfer wants over-developed graphics, slow loading times and interaction just for the sake of having it. *hint* go look at just about every mega-high traffic site. There's a reason most are so basic in graphical design.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Always interesting how many people think the surfer wants over-developed graphics, slow loading times and interaction just for the sake of having it. *hint* go look at just about every mega-high traffic site. There's a reason most are so basic in graphical design.

I'm not sure how to take that? lol ....

Amputate Your Head · 01-14-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Always interesting how many people think the surfer wants over-developed graphics, slow loading times and interaction just for the sake of having it. *hint* go look at just about every mega-high traffic site. There's a reason most are so basic in graphical design.

It's also amazing how many people think that one style of design fits all. If you're pushing membership to an image / video based subscription, it should be represented in the ad. ("The Ad" = the outer site). For a "rock club", radio station, band, etc. this also applies. (of course, there are many ways to accomplish that, but that's another topic).

A minimalistic graphics approach works for Amazon & Google, because they aren't selling images / video as the entire reason for their existence, nor are they selling an overall "image", (feel), like a rock club would be.

Different product, different approach, different design.

An Apple Store probably wouldn't go over if it was designed to look like a log cabin.

Twisted Dave · 01-14-2010, 04:47 PM

Btw, the Agincourt loads fast ... lol ...

And yeah, Amputate, you're right. Every... HOLY SHIT THAT AD BELOW THIS TEXT BOX IS GIVING ME SEIZURES!!!! ...

Gah ... sorry ... every site is different for different reasons. Yes, this is not THE most intense design ever. I could spend more than one evening on it ... sure. But one evening... I was just quite pleased for that amount of time. One reason I think a LOT of adult design looks horrible is because 90% of them seem to follow the same horrible design standards and all look soooo out of date. Even some of the bigger players in the adult design world do it. I am not mentioning names ... and even if I did, they do it because they are used to doing it as it makes money for them. So fair enough. If I did that kind of design for the Agincourt they'd laugh at it. Instead, they love this design.

Anyways ... yah ... everyone's different and every type of site aims at different people so you're spot on there.

01-13-2010, 03:48 PM	#1
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	Rock Club Website I Designed - Thoughts? I designed and coded this ... kinda like it ... What you think? Any suggestions to rock it up? hehe http://www.theagincourt.com/ I do web design too btw ... I just don't generally advertise that in adult as mainstream is more lucrative for the time/money ... I'm not against doing designs tho. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

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01-13-2010, 04:08 PM	#3
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Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	Nookster I didn't mean to offend you. I guess we both just feel each other's work is average. It's no big deal. I wanted opinions, and you gave yours. It's all good __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

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Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	I promise you I didn't get all butt-hurt ... lol ... man, I never even heard that before But no ... I'm cool with it. I don't expect everyone to think my stuff is good all the time. Some people love and some people hate. It's like big tits ... I hate them. Some guys love em! Peace out __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

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01-14-2010, 04:22 AM	#27
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	TERRIBLE demo quality ... but check out www.myspace.com/spiritofthestate and listen to Best I Could and Fight For You ... they're my favorites. My brother sings on these demos. I wrote and recorded all the music. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

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01-14-2010, 09:39 AM	#41
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01-14-2010, 04:47 PM	#50
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	Btw, the Agincourt loads fast ... lol ... And yeah, Amputate, you're right. Every... HOLY SHIT THAT AD BELOW THIS TEXT BOX IS GIVING ME SEIZURES!!!! ... Gah ... sorry ... every site is different for different reasons. Yes, this is not THE most intense design ever. I could spend more than one evening on it ... sure. But one evening... I was just quite pleased for that amount of time. One reason I think a LOT of adult design looks horrible is because 90% of them seem to follow the same horrible design standards and all look soooo out of date. Even some of the bigger players in the adult design world do it. I am not mentioning names ... and even if I did, they do it because they are used to doing it as it makes money for them. So fair enough. If I did that kind of design for the Agincourt they'd laugh at it. Instead, they love this design. Anyways ... yah ... everyone's different and every type of site aims at different people so you're spot on there. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!